EPT[Patch 1.0.0.132: Sejuani] General Discussion - Page 46
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
And that I TOTALY FUCKING CALLED IT! | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
I could see it working. Probably not well, but viable if practiced. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On January 20 2012 04:04 Requizen wrote: It was in a scrim or two a while back. It seems a bit wonky, but I'm sure with the right build/runes/masteries it's workable for good players. Nice ganks via teleport and stun, and Wild Card shots are super long range to catch someone off guard with. I could see it working. Probably not well, but viable if practiced. If by scrim you mean the IPL KOTH game 2. Although that was a bad game because Atlanta had no idea how to do it properly and his kassadin was straight up retarded. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On January 20 2012 04:05 Two_DoWn wrote: If by scrim you mean the IPL KOTH game 2. Although that was a bad game because Atlanta had no idea how to do it properly and his kassadin was straight up retarded. Didn't one of the Asian teams pull a jungle TF back in IEM Guangzhuo? But those I don't think those games were streamed though. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On January 20 2012 04:14 Sandster wrote: How's his clear speed and durability? I would think he's incredibly easy to invade and countergank early. His clearspeed is pretty meh. I mean, it isnt horrible, but you do need a wriggles, but red card does a decent job spreading a little bit of AOE out. He is actually pretty hard to invade. Having a stun every 4 seconds means that if you dont just jump him and kill him immediately you are going to get converged on by his team, and if he has red buff he can just kite you all day. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On January 20 2012 03:59 Two_DoWn wrote: Whats this I hear about jungle tf? Apart from the fact that it is viable in competitive play? And that I TOTALY FUCKING CALLED IT! Today we learn that mentioning Jungle TF in passing causes TwoDown to go wild like it's become the new meta. I swear, someone could say "TF is viable" referring to Trinity Force and this man would be all over it saying, "I TOLD YOU ALL, YOU SAID I WAS MAD BUT I TOLD YOU ALL, JUNGLE TF FOREVER BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!" On topic, I find Pantheon ganks scarier than Nocturne ganks. Both are scary, but Pantheon's ganks make it easier for his lanemates to catch you, whereas many Nocturne ganks leave it entirely up to him to kill you. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 20 2012 04:30 Sabin010 wrote: Personally I think more junglers should look into playing Exhaust, Smite. Most junglers tend to die when they get caught and flash is down, but exhaust allows you to 1v1 more effectively, and the junglers who can escape when caught (shaco, udyr, and shyvanna come to mind) could potentially benefit from being much stronger in 1v1 situations by taking exhaust. Already doing it on Trundle. But he's already obnoxious by himself, it just compliments his ganks well and he doesn't really need flash to escape in the jungle. | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
On January 20 2012 04:30 Seuss wrote: Today we learn that mentioning Jungle TF in passing causes TwoDown to go wild like it's become the new meta. I swear, someone could say "TF is viable" referring to Trinity Force and this man would be all over it saying, "I TOLD YOU ALL, YOU SAID I WAS MAD BUT I TOLD YOU ALL, JUNGLE TF FOREVER BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!" On topic, I find Pantheon ganks scarier than Nocturne ganks. Both are scary, but Pantheon's ganks make it easier for his lanemates to catch you, whereas many Nocturne ganks leave it entirely up to him to kill you. So... how bout that jungle annie? | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On January 20 2012 00:53 Requizen wrote: Speaking of junglers, is it considered acceptable to gank one lane more and basically ignore one or the other? I often find myself floating between top and mid, since bot often seems to be more of a standstill to me. People at lower elo or normals usually just turn bot into a farmfest of CS and heals. I had it happen in a recent game of mine where I was moving to top for a lvl 4 gank BAM my Irelia dies 1n1. K. IMA GANK MID. I move to mid, get a gank off, do wraiths, waddle top, MAH IRELIA DIES AGAIN FKING !%@%&. If that happens to me and I feel as if ganking top would most likely result in either of us dieing I completely ignore the lane and try to shit all over their midlane, get oracles and shit all over their botlane. If something like that happens imo a) you need the other solo (+pink/oracle) and get the lane that's behind ganked or b) you need to pressure the hell out of the other solo + bot and hope their jungle doesn't respond in time to countergank. If the lane that's behind bitches about you not helping use any of those quotes randomly... and start helping the lane once you're 5-0 with the first dragon in your pocket: - "It's warded." - "You fed him wards, can't gank." - "Go clean up the mess you caused yourself." - "Sorry, I'm busy helping the people who didn't die 1n1 back to back." Making bot ganks successfull is, imo, early on the supports job. That first pinkward is fucking huge if placed properly. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23403 Posts
Sometimes you'd need to think over whether or not your decision was flameworthy and just flaming them back is like brainwashing yourself into never looking back on these kind of things. | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On January 20 2012 04:30 Sabin010 wrote: Personally I think more junglers should look into playing Exhaust, Smite. Most junglers tend to die when they get caught and flash is down, but exhaust allows you to 1v1 more effectively, and the junglers who can escape when caught (shaco, udyr, and shyvanna come to mind) could potentially benefit from being much stronger in 1v1 situations by taking exhaust. Been doing it forever on Shaco because it makes 1v1ing him while splitpushing even more impossible. Now, I started doing it on Lee, Jarman, Master Yi. Will prolly go back to Flash on Jarman and Lee, mainly because of their ults, but hell, it's so good on Master Yi. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 20 2012 03:10 Requizen wrote: Same could be said of Noc (or TF) to be honest. I'm more scared of Noc flying out of the Jungle and cutting off sight of my lanemate than I am of Panth jumping me, especially if I have a healer support. level 1 noct ult is pathetically short range, don't kid yourself into thinking it's even close to as easy for noct to slip through wards to gank bot as it is for Pantheon. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I'd argue Morgana would be a much better jungler than Annie because she has more AoE,a reliable stun, as well as another reliable stun. Morg could clear about as quick as anyone, would have sick ganks, and with her passive probably have pretty darn good sustain too. ... I mean this is all theorycraft, but why has no one ever tried it? (aside from their being more rice in the lane) o.o | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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jadoth
694 Posts
On January 20 2012 05:17 iCanada wrote: I'd argue Morgana would be a much better jungler than Annie because she has more AoE,a reliable stun, as well as another reliable stun. Morg could clear about as quick as anyone, would have sick ganks, and with her passive probably have pretty darn good sustain too. ... I mean this is all theorycraft, but why has no one ever tried it? (aside from their being more rice in the lane) o.o i think morg's cds are too long to jungle. i have never tried it but even a like level 13 i feel like i need help to get blue in a reasonable amount of time. | ||
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