EPT[Patch 1.0.0.132: Sejuani] General Discussion - Page 4
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
Shyvanna with a perma slow. Wtf are they thinking Not to mention with an aoe stun ult. ROFL | ||
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Seiuchi
United States931 Posts
Run armor reds and yellows? Better start Cloth 5 pots instead of Regrowth. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
That has a much bigger effect on the game than any individual champion's nerfs or buffs. | ||
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
VLAD BUFFS UHHH YEAH Super excited for the Vladimir changes, I really don't mind that they traded his passive for significant changes in most of his abilities. I was in love with his abilities anyways! Super excited for this patch. | ||
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DarkwindHK
Hong Kong343 Posts
I am thinking I should buy him or buy Vlad... | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On January 17 2012 13:20 NotSorry wrote: yep just bought me kennen + artic skin after patch were released, at least another 2 weeks of abusing the hell out of that It's not like Kennen needed nerfs anyways, just WotA The good news is that all of the Kennen + WotA QQ will be replaced by Vlad + WotA QQ | ||
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warscythes
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On January 17 2012 13:43 Seiuchi wrote: I don't understand why Phreak tries to teach the community bad habits every spotlight. Run armor reds and yellows? Better start Cloth 5 pots instead of Regrowth. He did both, armor reds/yellows AND cloth 5 open for jungle. You know, just to be sure that big wraith don't cap yer ass. Can happen, can happen, at least wolves. Dyrus can tell. New champion's W seems to do too much damage if the numbers on wiki is correct. We shall see though, her jungle speed is probably slow due to mana issue/lowish damage, but her ganks are probably really strong due to long range charge + passive and E. New champs jungle speed shouldn't be that slow really, the W deals comparable damage to shyvana's W, just melee to apply passive on all creeps and it deals very similar damage at lvl 1. Drops off in scaling a bit after that I guess. Shyvana W 25 dmg + 0.2 per bonus AD Sejuani 12 +0.1 AP + 1% per max hp, +50% on frosted targets. so let's say dmg on Wraith (400hp) 12 + probably 0 AP bonus + 4 * 1.5 = 24 damage a second vs 25 shyvana slap me if I calculated that wrong, math not my strong point. | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
Also, yes, these are some of the worst opponents Phreak's ever had. Check out the Pro Player Lee Sin at 6:50 in the spotlight: | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On January 17 2012 14:06 Niton wrote:Also, yes, these are some of the worst opponents Phreak's ever had. Check out the Pro Player Lee Sin at 6:50 in the spotlight: My friend was the Malzahar at top that tried to flash when he was already dead. I suspect most of them were Rioters this time. Friend says I need to gank like Phreak, my response to that is: I don't have the latest OP jungler and I don't play Rioters.  | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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warscythes
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On January 17 2012 13:51 daemir wrote: He did both, armor reds/yellows AND cloth 5 open for jungle. You know, just to be sure that big wraith don't cap yer ass. Can happen, can happen, at least wolves. Dyrus can tell. New champs jungle speed shouldn't be that slow really, the W deals comparable damage to shyvana's W, just melee to apply passive on all creeps and it deals very similar damage at lvl 1. Drops off in scaling a bit after that I guess. Shyvana W 25 dmg + 0.2 per bonus AD Sejuani 12 +0.1 AP + 1% per max hp, +50% on frosted targets. so let's say dmg on Wraith (400hp) 12 + probably 0 AP bonus + 4 * 1.5 = 24 damage a second vs 25 shyvana slap me if I calculated that wrong, math not my strong point. You are not wrong, I am just taking account of mana and Q damage difference since Shyvana Q hits really hard. We shall see though. If the math is right then this champion is overpowered as balls. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On January 17 2012 13:51 daemir wrote: He did both, armor reds/yellows AND cloth 5 open for jungle. You know, just to be sure that big wraith don't cap yer ass. Can happen, can happen, at least wolves. Dyrus can tell. New champs jungle speed shouldn't be that slow really, the W deals comparable damage to shyvana's W, just melee to apply passive on all creeps and it deals very similar damage at lvl 1. Drops off in scaling a bit after that I guess. Shyvana W 25 dmg + 0.2 per bonus AD Sejuani 12 +0.1 AP + 1% per max hp, +50% on frosted targets. so let's say dmg on Wraith (400hp) 12 + probably 0 AP bonus + 4 * 1.5 = 24 damage a second vs 25 shyvana slap me if I calculated that wrong, math not my strong point. Mana would be my main concern. Shy Jungles super fast because there is no mana to worry about. Just trolololol spam qweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqwe while in the junlge. <3 Shy. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On January 17 2012 14:27 daemir wrote: Well first clears you do it with blue, after that you'll probably gonna build a philo->shurelia as that looks very potent on this champ. Slow/stun whole enemy team and shurelia active to your team = luls positioning. Even with a philo, she has 220 mana and gains 40 on every level. Her W costs 40 a pop, and then her E (IE Shy's Q) costs you 55. Every Shy jungle camp you pop W once, and then probably Q twice... to get that speed that is 150 mana per camp on a champ that only gets 900 mana at level 18. At level two that is like two camps, chances are she isn't going to have near the jungling single target damage Shy does and will suffer in terms of speed because of it even with Blue or Philo she is going to be mana starved. Plus, if she is getting an early Philos then she isn't getting an early wriggles (or in the very least it is significantly delayed) and therefore loses a ton of speed from Wriggles alone. I dunno, we'll see. I am definitely super excited for Sej though. Plus, your math is wrong. 12 plus an aditional 10 is 18. 12(1+0.50)=18. EDIT: I'm an idiot, plus full health scaling. My bad. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
I personally am not afraid of Kassadin. If I see a Kassadin and know I'm going mid, I pick Swain and shit on him. I just hate it when derp players try to call mid and then get raped because they first pick Brand or Cass. Morg I don't really like. I only ban her for the ult. Hurts a lot in a team fight. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On January 17 2012 13:46 DarkwindHK wrote: Is volibear viable now for solo top and jungle? I am thinking I should buy him or buy Vlad... I dunno about top, but I wouldn't take him jungle. His clear is pretty slow compared to most junglers, and I don't think his ganks are legendary (hello Shaco) enough for him to be a top tier pick anyway. A Maokai will clear twice as fast and have better gank, for example. Viable, perhaps.... Definitely not the best pick. Even for a super tanky champ that can gank I'd be more inclined to grab like Rammus or Sejuani personally. We'll see though, I'm just a humble noob. /shrug | ||
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