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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
On January 18 2012 06:50 Doctorbeat wrote: Wickd really is the master of Irelia. I wonder why teams don't just ban Irelia whenever they play against CLG.eu I just saw his game and he maxed W first. Is it his regular build or a specific one to counter Riven top? | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
and yeah that was really good play against SK | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I noticed he didn't use AS marks nor quints this time, got a bit surprised. | ||
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Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
On January 18 2012 06:50 Doctorbeat wrote: Wickd really is the master of Irelia. I wonder why teams don't just ban Irelia whenever they play against CLG.eu His playstyle is so fluid with her, beautiful to watch. Great flashing over the wall by the enemy's wraiths to stun Trundle for Anivia, and two kills on Sivir via coming from behind the tower,. A cornered, doomed Nyph on Janna managed to flash-W-auto Kog'maw to death, who really should have known better than to stick around w/100hp in the hope of an assist via his R. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On January 17 2012 21:33 Unentschieden wrote: Didn´t we conclude that Mundo isn´t a tank 2 years ago? He really isn´t very tanky, he just has a lot of regen - which ignite takes care of. He just has high health and lots of regen so people call him a "tank." Someone said you could build full tank on him and still do lots of damage 'cause you can just get atmas and the way his Q works but ehh. The only item with resists I usually get on Mundo are FoN and sometimes Randuin's. Stark's is really good on him. So are AD items. Warmogs/Frozen Mallet are usually required (at least one of them, sometimes both). He's weird because there are so many ways that you can build him and I don't think anyone has found the most "optimal" build yet. On January 18 2012 01:13 NeoIllusions wrote: Slayerrrrr You think Mundo is good midgame but weak in lane? How is that? I understand he doesn't have the sustain of most other top laners but as another champion without mana, he can just lane and last hit with Q. I can't see how relevant he is in a team fight though. Your options are Q and run in with E on and headbutt some kids but in a 5v5, Q is almost never hit your intended target and you just become a glorified melee attacker. Mundo is fun but I've never managed to pull my weight after 20 min into the game. Wat dew? Yeah, I don't know why people think he's weak in lane. He's got bad match ups but his E does retarded amounts of damage all game and his Q is really fucking strong at all stages of the game too. Even if you get zoned you can still farm as Mundo. In team fights you just do your best to draw threat away from your carries, help your carries kite, and do stupid amounts of damage with your Q and E. Admittedly, there isn't a ton of good reasons to pick Mundo other than he's fun because there are champions who will be harder to kill than him and do more damage than him. And in the case of like Alistar, as was mentioned earlier, that can peel better than him. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
edit: i think mundo kinda sux as a peeler, i think he's 100x better when he's chasing after ppl | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On January 18 2012 02:36 NeoIllusions wrote: Graves dash isn't really giving a ranged champion a melee skill. Graves' Q benefits more at close range but it's at a cost. A better example of what Zileas is going for is giving Malphite's Ground Pound as a ranged skill on an AD. That would be mindboggling broken at bottom lane. I read this post at work and I've been waiting all day to say: Ezreal's Essence Flux is exactly what you are describing, it is a ranged AoE skill with a 40% attack speed debuff (compared to 50% on Malphite). | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On January 18 2012 06:55 Alaric wrote: People used to say E first was best. Some accepted that W first against tanks was fine. Then they realized. I noticed he didn't use AS marks nor quints this time, got a bit surprised. wickd uses flat AD quints and marks, flat armor yellows and flat mr blues | ||
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HPoirot
United States1303 Posts
On January 18 2012 06:26 Abenson wrote: What happened to EG? Haven't seen them play in a long time. Epik Gamers, not Evil Genius ofc. Dan Dinh sent Dyrus a message on stream saying they play at 7/7:30 tonight for IPL's Killing Spree. Killing Spree isn't aired live, so IPL's next LoL broadcast(Thursday, I think) should feature Epik. Edit: Apparently Curse vs CLG is this week. I assume Epik will be next week then. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On January 18 2012 07:40 Alzadar wrote: I read this post at work and I've been waiting all day to say: Ezreal's Essence Flux is exactly what you are describing, it is a ranged AoE skill with a 40% attack speed debuff (compared to 50% on Malphite). malphites is movement speed ? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Also, stop talking like that about Mundo, you're making me want to pick him up. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
No, that's his Q (Seismic Shard). Neo was referring to Ground Pound, which is a point blank AoE attack speed debuff. Besides, lots of ranged ADs have slows: Ashe, Caitlyn, Graves, Kog, MF, Tristana, Twitch,... only Vayne, Ezreal and Corki don't have one. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
No it's not, his Q steals movement speed. Anyways what I think Zileas was talking about is having moves that require you to be in melee range on a champion designed to be a ranged DPS. So if Caitlyn had something like Nasus ult, it'd still be an awesome ability but it would feel really weird since she's designed around being ranged. On the other hand, since many abilities have multiple uses, if you gave her Lee Sin's dragon kick, even though it's technically a melee DPS ability it still would have a clear use as a peeling ability so it wouldn't be as much of an anti-pattern. | ||
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On January 18 2012 07:53 Promises wrote: So I had a game today with a jungle Twitch in the enemy team and he completely raped the game for us. He got a fairly early kill botlane, I was Viktor mid against LB. I got off fairly decently since I bought a pink ward early on but he got to rape bot and top lane a few times, and at some point LB and him could just start diving me and the game spun out of control completely. What do you do against a jungle Twitch? Good CV's can help to see if he's jungling or not but he's almost forcing all lanes to buy pinkwards, which is a succesfull jungle without ever showing yourself. The thing just gives me headaches ^^ Twitch is Twitch. People think he's bad because they're told so. His ganks are less effective if you pink ward everywhere, but he can still take different paths and get into position for ganks elsewhere. And if they don't pink ward.... death. Death everywhere. On the other hand, buying an Oracle's means Twitch can basically never jump you. But, it also forces your entire team to always stick with the Oracle carrier or be picked off by themselves. Twitch more or less changes the game he's in. Played in solo queue, he can be a roaming, ganking nightmare. But once detection comes out, you have to be much smarter about how you go about things. Investing in an Oracle's of your own is often a smart idea. Lets you clear normal wards to give you the edge, and pink wards to help yourself. From the jungle, he's a terror because the enemy has to have detection everywhere or hug their towers at all times. He's not craptastic as everyone claims. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
he said ground pound, not seismic shard. ground pound doesn't hit movespeed, only attack speed. | ||
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