EPT[Patch 1.0.0.132: Sejuani] General Discussion - Page 155
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
CLG.EU!!!!! | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
wtf is that? o.o | ||
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
On January 29 2012 09:24 Frolossus wrote: wait so he goes warmogs/tear/mejais competitively? wtf is that? o.o yeah, lol. In theory, it wasn't that bad of an idea vs a team with 2 APs. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On January 29 2012 09:14 Dandel Ion wrote: Kennen thread Only streamer I know of is yellowpete, but that's AD Kennen. But I'm fairly certain you don't learn anything about Kennen from streams anyways. He's very.... straightforward. Salce #1 kennen in the world. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
You can get on IRC and ask him over PM to play Kennen. He usually obliges to people in his channel when they ask him to play one of the APs he usually mains. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 29 2012 06:11 Two_DoWn wrote: People slowly starting to realize that scaling doenst mean shit if you dont live. Realistically all aps should be built like bruisers: survivability first priority, damage after. You do more damage by being alive long enough to cast a spell you otherwise wouldnt than by going glass cannon and dying after getting off 1 rotation. I'd say this is a reasonable development forward. Positioning can only mean so much when so many relevant anti-carry threats all have insane mobility. It also follows something of a precedent--people eventually realized that pure damage items in DotA like Buriza and Desolator weren't worth shit unless you were fed as fuck, and that rounded stats items that gave a mix of survivability and damage were generally the better buys. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On January 29 2012 07:57 Two_DoWn wrote: Im not saying that all ap's should build pure tank, but look at the evolution: First we have pure glass cannon shit where people just rush DFG on everyone. Then they realize that cata is op and everyone goes cata-ROA. Then Riot nerfs cata and everyone alternates between ROA and 3 drings into cap Then everyone starts to go wota cuz of the lane and fight sustain. Now people starting to throw a tank item into an ap build to allow extra cast cycles before death. History has demonstrated a consistent shifting away from glass cannon and towards more sustain and beefiness on casters. The primary reason Catalyst was OP was because it gave you crazy lane sustain and the equivalent of a heal bait if you timed an all-in trade properly. This was also back before Riot adjusted mana regen to be less dependent on Runes/Masteries, so Catalyst made a huge difference in terms of maintaining mana levels. That's also why DRing*3 became the next big thing. You could always sustain your health with a few cheap potions, but mana was something you really needed to build for. Now stuff like WotA is common because mana isn't quite the issue it used to be and junglers constantly pass blue buffs to their AP mids. It's not that history has demonstrated a consistent shifting away from glass cannon builds, but a consistent shift toward whatever is the best method for winning a lane. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
Went 15/0/13 in a normal off of Dcap Rylai's sorc boots, FON, and Warmogs. I've always thought the tankier mages (Swain, Morgana, Vlad, Kennen) would start to become something to idealize. | ||
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
so phreaking awesome. | ||
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qanik
Denmark1899 Posts
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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DoXa
Switzerland1448 Posts
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
 and froggen can build anivia like that because he is godly with her. Using the stun skillshot and then directing ppl into it by walling and predicting the pathfinding based on where he thinks they probably clicked in half a second is just oO. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On January 29 2012 11:01 LaNague wrote: there was even an annoucement on the client about ingame lags and froggen can build anivia like that because he is godly with her. Using the stun skillshot and then directing ppl into it by walling and predicting the pathfinding based on where he thinks they probably clicked in half a second is just oO. are there any videos out there of him? | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On January 29 2012 09:45 TheYango wrote: I'd say this is a reasonable development forward. Positioning can only mean so much when so many relevant anti-carry threats all have insane mobility. It also follows something of a precedent--people eventually realized that pure damage items in DotA like Buriza and Desolator weren't worth shit unless you were fed as fuck, and that rounded stats items that gave a mix of survivability and damage were generally the better buys. It all depends on hero, it still makes sense to build pure damage on heroes with extreme burst, where decent positioning will allow them to survive for the one second every 10-15 that they need to be in danger. Not building tank on Cass and other heroes who need to sit in position in order to put out constant DPS is just silly though. I still think its niche though, most AP's are very bursty an can stay far back behind. Anivia is really the only other one than needs to get close in. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
Also Fizz. | ||
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