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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 28 2012 06:58 GMT
#2921
I dunno, I usually save leap strike for the end of counterstrike so I find it really easy to land Jax's stun. I can't see myself needing to end it early very often. His main problem I find is being kited while his ult is on, or just being bursted down by AP carries. He still destroys AD carries pretty hard. But I play him more like Master Yi than Tryndamere which is probably different from old Jax.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 28 2012 07:00 GMT
#2922
I don't always play ww, but when I do, I carry my team to victory.
liftlift > tsm
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 28 2012 07:03 GMT
#2923
Im starting to think ww is actually legit again. His clearspeed isnt THAT bad, q and w are better than say, GP or Jarvan or Lee Sin. Plus if you grab red and anyone actually tries to counderjungle you you just get to laugh at them as you kill them.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 28 2012 07:05 GMT
#2924
On January 28 2012 16:03 Two_DoWn wrote:
Im starting to think ww is actually legit again. His clearspeed isnt THAT bad, q and w are better than say, GP or Jarvan or Lee Sin. Plus if you grab red and anyone actually tries to counderjungle you you just get to laugh at them as you kill them.

His clear speed is on par with top tier jungling if you do wolves first, w/ AMAZING help from good teammates.

The only major weakness is this pre-level 6 ganks are weaker than the top tier junglers (lee sin, skarner, and so on). Also he's a terrible duelist, and his counter jungling is fairly limited as well.
liftlift > tsm
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 28 2012 07:08 GMT
#2925
warwick HAS BEEN fine lol
i've been telling you guys that for months and you all laughed at me
warwick has been top tier for ages especially in solo queue

also to say he's a terrible duelist is wrong, he's a great duelist. with blue buff he won't lose a duel because of Q

i think ionic spark is LEGIT on ww too and makes him quite strong but i'm not 100% sure
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 07:12:14
January 28 2012 07:09 GMT
#2926
On January 28 2012 16:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 16:03 Two_DoWn wrote:
Im starting to think ww is actually legit again. His clearspeed isnt THAT bad, q and w are better than say, GP or Jarvan or Lee Sin. Plus if you grab red and anyone actually tries to counderjungle you you just get to laugh at them as you kill them.

His clear speed is on par with top tier jungling if you do wolves first, w/ AMAZING help from good teammates.

The only major weakness is this pre-level 6 ganks are weaker than the top tier junglers (lee sin, skarner, and so on). Also he's a terrible duelist, and his counter jungling is fairly limited as well.

Wut? WW is the best dualist in the game. Only person who beats WW in a 1v1 is Lee Sin, and even that depends on who has more health when the fight starts.

The only real thing that he needs is a buff to his e so you can actually gank. Like if you could activate it to get the speed boost on targets that have health >50%.

But ya. Every jungler secretly loves WW and wants him to be good. The problem is all you laners suck balls and if we dont grab jungles that can gank early and babysit your sorry asses all early game you invariably lose and bitch at us for the rest of the game.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 28 2012 07:12 GMT
#2927
On January 28 2012 16:09 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 16:05 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:03 Two_DoWn wrote:
Im starting to think ww is actually legit again. His clearspeed isnt THAT bad, q and w are better than say, GP or Jarvan or Lee Sin. Plus if you grab red and anyone actually tries to counderjungle you you just get to laugh at them as you kill them.

His clear speed is on par with top tier jungling if you do wolves first, w/ AMAZING help from good teammates.

The only major weakness is this pre-level 6 ganks are weaker than the top tier junglers (lee sin, skarner, and so on). Also he's a terrible duelist, and his counter jungling is fairly limited as well.

Wut? WW is the best dualist in the game. Only person who beats WW in a 1v1 is Lee Sin, and even that depends on who has more health when the fight starts.

I always lose to shyv 1v1, skarners, and lee sin as well. And anyone else just seems to beable to kite me like crazy.
liftlift > tsm
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
January 28 2012 07:12 GMT
#2928
On January 28 2012 16:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Also he's a terrible duelist,


Shikyo alternate......?

ww is KNOWN to be an amazing duelist. Earlygame very very few champs can 1v1 him. Lategame only like, olaf can. lol
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 28 2012 07:13 GMT
#2929
On January 28 2012 16:12 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 16:09 Two_DoWn wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:05 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:03 Two_DoWn wrote:
Im starting to think ww is actually legit again. His clearspeed isnt THAT bad, q and w are better than say, GP or Jarvan or Lee Sin. Plus if you grab red and anyone actually tries to counderjungle you you just get to laugh at them as you kill them.

His clear speed is on par with top tier jungling if you do wolves first, w/ AMAZING help from good teammates.

The only major weakness is this pre-level 6 ganks are weaker than the top tier junglers (lee sin, skarner, and so on). Also he's a terrible duelist, and his counter jungling is fairly limited as well.

Wut? WW is the best dualist in the game. Only person who beats WW in a 1v1 is Lee Sin, and even that depends on who has more health when the fight starts.

I always lose to shyv 1v1, skarners, and lee sin as well. And anyone else just seems to beable to kite me like crazy.

If they run from you, that means you won. And if you are losing to Shyv and Skarner you are doin somethin wrong. Im guessing not clicking q.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 07:20:23
January 28 2012 07:18 GMT
#2930
I really like lanewick. Why don't people play him solotop? Like the only discussion I always see about him is as a jungler. Am I missing something?
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 28 2012 07:23 GMT
#2931
On January 28 2012 16:18 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I really like lanewick. Why don't people play him solotop? Like the only discussion I always see about him is as a jungler. Am I missing something?


They did play him solo top until his sustain got nerfed. He's probably still good there but I don't play solo top.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 28 2012 07:23 GMT
#2932
On January 28 2012 16:18 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I really like lanewick. Why don't people play him solotop? Like the only discussion I always see about him is as a jungler. Am I missing something.

Yes. You are missing the soul of the jungler. The very essence of love for the one true jungle, back when it was nearly impossible to jungle and Warwick was god. There was no pull, there were no weakened creeps that gave you health, it was just your hairy werewolf self against the greatest of all obstacles: level 1 ancient golem (or the 2 minigolems).

He was the jungle everyone learned on. The very first any of us learned to master. And to see him raped and abused over such a long period of time is just crushing to everyone who ever grabbed a longsword and said "fuck it, imma run a fast 6, ignore my team for 5 minutes and farm, but emerge a GOD."

That is what you are missing. And frankly, you will never understand our pain. Ever.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 28 2012 07:28 GMT
#2933
I remember when I first started playing this game and every game that me and my friend's would 5-queue we'd always run jungle Warwick because he was the only jungler any of us could play. It was mostly a combination of us being bad at LoL and Warwick being able to just kill anything and not give a fuck. Didn't even need proper runes to jungle with him.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 28 2012 07:34 GMT
#2934
Lol, I learned Udyr jungle first.

He was still one of the best junglers back then.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 28 2012 07:37 GMT
#2935
i think WW's E needs to be just pure passive, and give him an active like double speed boost for 2-3 seconds, and maybe make his W give less AS and grant cleave to WW or his teammates and he'll be golden
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
January 28 2012 07:44 GMT
#2936
On January 28 2012 16:23 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 16:18 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I really like lanewick. Why don't people play him solotop? Like the only discussion I always see about him is as a jungler. Am I missing something.

Yes. You are missing the soul of the jungler. The very essence of love for the one true jungle, back when it was nearly impossible to jungle and Warwick was god. There was no pull, there were no weakened creeps that gave you health, it was just your hairy werewolf self against the greatest of all obstacles: level 1 ancient golem (or the 2 minigolems).

He was the jungle everyone learned on. The very first any of us learned to master. And to see him raped and abused over such a long period of time is just crushing to everyone who ever grabbed a longsword and said "fuck it, imma run a fast 6, ignore my team for 5 minutes and farm, but emerge a GOD."

That is what you are missing. And frankly, you will never understand our pain. Ever.


holy shit. This is a scary post.

I've only ever played solo top (and solo mid) warwick even though he's one of my mains and my go to ''Damn, I just wanna free win'' champion. I've only jungled him twice. I just avoided learning to jungle for a long time and just recently started playing jungler consistently.

Also I learned jungling with a shitty champion commonly known by the name shyvanna.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 28 2012 07:52 GMT
#2937
lanewick is still strong. hes a mordekaiser without aoe :s
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 08:07:26
January 28 2012 08:07 GMT
#2938
oh god...I just played a game against a GP who came into lane with boots+3pot but had 20% crit from runes/masteries. He parrleys me twice, crits once at lvl 1 for ~200 hp and instawon lane. So fcking gay. Remove crit from runes and masteries plz -.-. Now I need to go save IP for crit runes so I can abuse GP even more
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
January 28 2012 08:10 GMT
#2939
i think if they removed crit from parlay that would get rid of half of the early crit is broken complaints.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 28 2012 08:15 GMT
#2940
On January 28 2012 17:10 jadoth wrote:
i think if they removed crit from parlay that would get rid of half of the early crit is broken complaints.

well the whole parrley can crit thing is part of what makes GP so unique. Parrley being able to crit isn't the problem. The problem is being able to get a lucky crit at lvl 1 for 200 damage with almost no drawbacks.
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