EPT[Patch 1.0.0.132: Sejuani] General Discussion - Page 146
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On January 28 2012 14:32 overt wrote: To be fair, just before Sivir buffs people called Vayne the strongest AD in the game yet lots of stuff shits on Vayne in lane. Just cause Sivir loses lane (and she may or may not) doesn't mean she's not good. But yeah, the whole, "I've played Sivir all the time," when he clearly hasn't is a bit ridiculous lol. Her laning isn't shit at all though. Good cc with her can outright get you killed if she positions properly. Good defensive supports allows her to just farm till lategame and go beast mode. Earlygame is the weakest point in game for her, but that's more because of how ridiculous her lategame is than because she has "bad" laning. >.> His examples are horrible too. =.= | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On January 28 2012 14:59 Two_DoWn wrote: Holy shit Jiji cass looks INSANE so damn good atm. Its like regi only if regi could hit ults, actually gauge trades, and didnt say bro all the time. I'm really waiting for a jiji return to dominance. He does well almost every game he streams and his stats are ridiculous. | ||
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Unfortunately that is essentially analogous to Rumble beats 99% of top lanes. Or Talon beats every AP mid. | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
On January 28 2012 15:02 overt wrote: I'm really waiting for a jiji return to dominance. He does well almost every game he streams and his stats are ridiculous. He also, as far as it seems, has an amazing mental state compared to the rest of CLG. It's so hard to piss jiji off or knock him off his game, so when he's playing well you can't even try and rattle him. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
DL is just so dumb at times holy crap. I'm glad he has like chauster and SV hold his hand through the game and let his mechanics into work because you clearly can't leave it up to DL himself. And I wanted to literally shout to his face STFU when listening last SotL as he kept shouting over everyone else talking. Travis if by some happenstance you read this topic, tell DL to shut the fuck up when other people are talking. I don't really want to hear DLs "reasonings" over people who might have something useful to say like xpecial or jatt. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On January 28 2012 15:05 daemir wrote: How in god's green earth can caitlyn outdmg sivir when sivir has an attack reset ability (something no other AD has) and atk speed steroid and caitlyn has no steroid aside from headshot? How does that even compute? He never said Caitlyn outdamages Sivir, just that Cait wins lane against Sivir (which probs isn't true). He said that late game Corki/Vayne outdamages Sivir. On January 28 2012 15:05 Niton wrote: He also, as far as it seems, has an amazing mental state compared to the rest of CLG. It's so hard to piss jiji off or knock him off his game, so when he's playing well you can't even try and rattle him. Yeah, jiji is pretty fucking awesome. He's the only NA pro whom I can say without a doubt is humble about his skill. | ||
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On January 28 2012 15:09 locodoco wrote: cait does beat sivir in lane but it's pretty dependant on what support each side has Out of curiosity, would you say that Double is right in that Sivir is overrated? Or do you think she's best AD right now? | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On January 28 2012 15:09 0123456789 wrote: Doublelift is right. Sivir is a bad champion. Her ult is godlike, but she's crap in lane. Cait can just rape her ass, get the cs adv in lane, get better items, and then just straight up beat sivir. If you went just by early game you would have to notch Kog and Vayne in the terrible ad carry category. And every ad carry loses to Cait. Doesnt necessarily mean they all suck, or that Cait is the best. Sivir ult is broken op atm, and that speed boost passive is broken just as bad. | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
On January 28 2012 15:13 Two_DoWn wrote: If you went just by early game you would have to notch Kog and Vayne in the terrible ad carry category. And every ad carry loses to Cait. Doesnt necessarily mean they all suck, or that Cait is the best. Sivir ult is broken op atm, and that speed boost passive is broken just as bad. When you pick kog, vayne, or sivir you're asking to lose lane to cait. You take that into consideration and try not to lose as hard so that your team can carry you past early game as even or with a slight adv winning other lanes and then you can flatten out that disadvantage. But if both teams were even and you got shat on by cait in lane, cait would have a gold adv on you and just f you up in terms of dps every fight. Looking at it from Doublelift's perspective, which when I see him play, has a very solo queue perspective, he wants to win lane and then carry from that. Which is why he calls sivir shit. You can't expect in solo queue to take the weaker lane and lose in lane and expect to carry. In 5's, you can do this. IMO | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On January 28 2012 15:19 0123456789 wrote: When you pick kog, vayne, or sivir you're asking to lose lane to cait. You take that into consideration and try not to lose as hard so that your team can carry you past early game as even or with a slight adv winning other lanes and then you can flatten out that disadvantage. But if both teams were even and you got shat on by cait in lane, cait would have a gold adv on you and just f you up in terms of dps every fight. Looking at it from Doublelift's perspective, which when I see him play, has a very solo queue perspective, he wants to win lane and then carry from that. Which is why he calls sivir shit. You wouldn't want to rely on teammates like jiji or hotshot to carry you. You would want to carry them so that you can get your share of esports money. You can't expect in solo queue to take the weaker lane and lose in lane and expect to carry. In 5's, you can do this. Ya, but the problem is Double isnt smart enough to actually separate between solo q and full 5s. He seems to not understand the difference. Cait is the best solo q ranged ad. She is the worst full 5s. I actually think that the BEST think that could happen to Dlift would be for CLG to mandate that he deliberately lose in CS in solo q for like a week just so he can learn to rely on positioning and teamplay. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
The counter strike change does sound pretty interesting. But I don't think it will make much of a difference tbh, unless the AoE damage reduction is massive. It sounds like more of a "just try him out, he's actually pretty strong" buff rather than a "he really needs this" buff. On January 28 2012 13:42 Ryuu314 wrote: I'm disappointed that Riot isn't upping the duration of Jax's ulti. 6 seconds is far far too short when compared to other steroid ultis. This is the only thing he could really use. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
I mean, the thing to realize is that his new e is basically shit compared to the old one. Old one meant you never died to an ad carry ever. Now you dont die for 2 seconds, then get blown to shit. | ||
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
On January 28 2012 15:11 overt wrote: Out of curiosity, would you say that Double is right in that Sivir is overrated? Or do you think she's best AD right now? i think sivir is probably the best ad overall but not in all situations kog,trist,grave,cait,corki,sivir all gud | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
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