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eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
January 28 2012 04:21 GMT
#2861
rip leesinger the blind monk
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 28 2012 04:24 GMT
#2862
Lee Sin will be fine after this. He already has the second best mobility, best 1v1, and above average clearspeed in the current jungle. Passive nerf wont hurt his 1-2 off of red, and once he gets 3 it doesnt matter because his w lets him just absorb everything anyway.

And his q was fucking OBSCENE. It needed to be nerfed, and they arent even cutting the base/scaling, just the extra damage you get on the last part.

Lee Sin will be FINE.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 04:25:57
January 28 2012 04:25 GMT
#2863
This is great because Jax really sucked against ability using characters as his counter strike made him do less damage. In order to get the stun off he would just take more damage against there characters that did not auto unless ofc you started the fight with leap strike counter strike. Jax really needed the AoE dmg decrease buff because of how squishy he is during teamfights too.

I haven't laned as Jax, but jungle jax I've been building Wriggles, merc, triforce and that's usually it as we either win or lose, but after usually an attempt at either rage blade or gunblade. I've been thinking about doing building him tanky like everyone said you would end up doing as Jax because he probably does enough damage as is so Frozen Mallet after wriggles.

Probably should take the lee sin and jax discussion to their threads though oh well.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
January 28 2012 04:35 GMT
#2864
Critplank is scary. You can't treat him like a regular laner in that you can't just trade hits with him 1 for 1 since he can eat oranges, and with some good runes, eventually bring you low enough that you'd have to b or risk 12% chance of dieing on the next parley. I guess this makes sense. You can still do critplank. You just can't get lucky off 4% no brawlers glove critplank.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 28 2012 04:38 GMT
#2865
Best part of critplank is you can run critplank and jungle him with a vamp cepter. Crits make spellvamp STUPIDLY strong in jungle.

Then you come out of jungle and have stupid good chance to just crit someone.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 28 2012 04:42 GMT
#2866
I'm disappointed that Riot isn't upping the duration of Jax's ulti. 6 seconds is far far too short when compared to other steroid ultis.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
January 28 2012 04:46 GMT
#2867
On January 28 2012 13:38 Two_DoWn wrote:
Best part of critplank is you can run critplank and jungle him with a vamp cepter. Crits make spellvamp STUPIDLY strong in jungle.

Then you come out of jungle and have stupid good chance to just crit someone.

Would gp's parley heal off spellvamp and lifesteal or just the lifesteal?
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 28 2012 04:47 GMT
#2868
Lee Sin nerfs look really minor. But here's hoping to people not playing him anymore cause of nerf syndrome.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 28 2012 04:47 GMT
#2869
On January 28 2012 13:46 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 13:38 Two_DoWn wrote:
Best part of critplank is you can run critplank and jungle him with a vamp cepter. Crits make spellvamp STUPIDLY strong in jungle.

Then you come out of jungle and have stupid good chance to just crit someone.

Would gp's parley heal off spellvamp and lifesteal or just the lifesteal?

I'm pretty sure it's just lifesteal but I could be wrong.
Bezelheim
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada61 Posts
January 28 2012 04:52 GMT
#2870
Just out of curiosity, where do you guys turn to if you're looking for scrims? My friends and I are looking to practice for this high schools only tournament, but we can't find anybody to practice against.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
January 28 2012 04:55 GMT
#2871
On January 28 2012 13:52 Bezelheim wrote:
Just out of curiosity, where do you guys turn to if you're looking for scrims? My friends and I are looking to practice for this high schools only tournament, but we can't find anybody to practice against.


What ELO range are you guys?
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
January 28 2012 04:55 GMT
#2872
On January 28 2012 13:38 Two_DoWn wrote:
Best part of critplank is you can run critplank and jungle him with a vamp cepter. Crits make spellvamp STUPIDLY strong in jungle.

Then you come out of jungle and have stupid
good chance to just crit someone.


The only thing more crazy I can think of is full crit chance on tryn. Always win lane, never not win lane.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 28 2012 04:57 GMT
#2873
On January 28 2012 13:25 BlackMagister wrote:
This is great because Jax really sucked against ability using characters as his counter strike made him do less damage. In order to get the stun off he would just take more damage against there characters that did not auto unless ofc you started the fight with leap strike counter strike. Jax really needed the AoE dmg decrease buff because of how squishy he is during teamfights too.

I haven't laned as Jax, but jungle jax I've been building Wriggles, merc, triforce and that's usually it as we either win or lose, but after usually an attempt at either rage blade or gunblade. I've been thinking about doing building him tanky like everyone said you would end up doing as Jax because he probably does enough damage as is so Frozen Mallet after wriggles.

Probably should take the lee sin and jax discussion to their threads though oh well.


No, he really didn't.

Like I said in my earlier post, having Jax beat anyone that uses a weapon is more than understandable, but now he is able to go even with mages, who were supposed to 100% counter him. Now Annie does jack shit with her combo against him, Brand will have that much more of a hard time forcing him out of lane, Cass doesn't get to touch him, Anivia can't touch him, Cho'Gath just got screwed in his matchup at top against him, and I could probably name a few others as well.

Now Jax gets to pretty much have an overall even at worst in lane. Swain+Ahri gonna be the few champions to counter him.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Bezelheim
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada61 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 05:01:15
January 28 2012 04:59 GMT
#2874
On January 28 2012 13:55 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 13:52 Bezelheim wrote:
Just out of curiosity, where do you guys turn to if you're looking for scrims? My friends and I are looking to practice for this high schools only tournament, but we can't find anybody to practice against.


What ELO range are you guys?


Well, as a team, our Elo is ~1200. Individually, I'm at ~1800 and my friends are all floating around ~1400.
Oh, but as a team, I'd say we're not very good. We just pick who we're good with, and we don't really have good teamwork.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 28 2012 05:00 GMT
#2875
On January 28 2012 13:55 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 13:38 Two_DoWn wrote:
Best part of critplank is you can run critplank and jungle him with a vamp cepter. Crits make spellvamp STUPIDLY strong in jungle.

Then you come out of jungle and have stupid
good chance to just crit someone.


The only thing more crazy I can think of is full crit chance on tryn. Always win lane, never not win lane.

Been there, done that, won game before 5 minutes.

This game is SO much more fun if you try out shit and dont sheep out just because its easier. Fail miserably at some shit (jungle renekton), succeed massively at other (Jungle critplank)
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
January 28 2012 05:00 GMT
#2876
lee sin gets slightly nerfed. EVERYONE DOWNVOTES YOUTUBE VIDEO. lolololol
God that shit is hilarious.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 28 2012 05:06 GMT
#2877
BTW tune into any CLG stream for drunk saintisms.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
January 28 2012 05:08 GMT
#2878
On January 28 2012 13:57 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 13:25 BlackMagister wrote:
This is great because Jax really sucked against ability using characters as his counter strike made him do less damage. In order to get the stun off he would just take more damage against there characters that did not auto unless ofc you started the fight with leap strike counter strike. Jax really needed the AoE dmg decrease buff because of how squishy he is during teamfights too.

I haven't laned as Jax, but jungle jax I've been building Wriggles, merc, triforce and that's usually it as we either win or lose, but after usually an attempt at either rage blade or gunblade. I've been thinking about doing building him tanky like everyone said you would end up doing as Jax because he probably does enough damage as is so Frozen Mallet after wriggles.

Probably should take the lee sin and jax discussion to their threads though oh well.


No, he really didn't.

Like I said in my earlier post, having Jax beat anyone that uses a weapon is more than understandable, but now he is able to go even with mages, who were supposed to 100% counter him. Now Annie does jack shit with her combo against him, Brand will have that much more of a hard time forcing him out of lane, Cass doesn't get to touch him, Anivia can't touch him, Cho'Gath just got screwed in his matchup at top against him, and I could probably name a few others as well.

Now Jax gets to pretty much have an overall even at worst in lane. Swain+Ahri gonna be the few champions to counter him.


It all depends on the numbers but Yeah I can definitely see jax being one of the top picks after this. Kinda annoying since people just jump on the buff bandwagon, and then everyone will start playing him. Its not as if he want powerful before his remake.

Also I'd rather have lategame jax than tryn and that's saying something.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 28 2012 05:12 GMT
#2879
lol sick patch

1 average champion gets nerfs for no reason, 10+ stay blatantly overpowered (sup sivir/graves/kennen/rammus/etc)
Brees on in
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
January 28 2012 05:12 GMT
#2880
On January 28 2012 14:00 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 13:55 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On January 28 2012 13:38 Two_DoWn wrote:
Best part of critplank is you can run critplank and jungle him with a vamp cepter. Crits make spellvamp STUPIDLY strong in jungle.

Then you come out of jungle and have stupid
good chance to just crit someone.


The only thing more crazy I can think of is full crit chance on tryn. Always win lane, never not win lane.

Been there, done that, won game before 5 minutes.

This game is SO much more fun if you try out shit and dont sheep out just because its easier. Fail miserably at some shit (jungle renekton), succeed massively at other (Jungle critplank)


So TD are the crit runes the secret behind your success in ranked?
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
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