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Use the Champion threads whenever appropriate.
Don't use General Discussion simply out of ease.
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If you want to whine about server lag, use the QQ thread. We all suffer alike when Riot servers kaput. No need to make a post about it in GD.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 28 2012 01:16 GMT
#2821
Ok, since there's no Wukong thread, I'll ask here. How do you beat monkey in lane? For some reason, this champion is the bane of my existence, and whenever I go up against him, no matter the champion, I always find a way to lose. I think this stems from not understanding the champion well, so some help would be greatly appreciated. I find that I always come out behind when I try to trade with him, and just get worn down when I only try to farm. So, what are monkey's weaknesses, and how do I exploit them best? This champ's giving me a lot of trouble, and while it probably has to do with me being bad, it would help if I knew how to play against him.

Thanks!
you gotta dance
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
January 28 2012 01:16 GMT
#2822
On January 28 2012 10:05 Noocta wrote:
They just revealed Ziggs abilities.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1756943

The boucing bomb mechanic sound interessing, so does the remote control explosives. He sounds to be what people want with AP Gragas. ( who was not design as a mage so )


Wow, he looks really fun.

A mobile (somewhat) and fun to play mage. I'm hoping.
derp
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 28 2012 01:17 GMT
#2823
I think his viability will be dependent entirely on whether or not his W is a significant enough knockback. If he has good ratios then he could be a pretty decent mid AP due to him having a slow and an AoE knock back which also serves as a dash.
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
January 28 2012 01:22 GMT
#2824
He seems so much fun. Definitely a buy when he comes out. :D Maybe someone (Moonbear) can give us the numbers on his scaling.
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 28 2012 01:24 GMT
#2825
On January 28 2012 10:15 Chairman Ray wrote:
Q - Is this single target or AOE? Is it a skillshot?
W - Looks great vs melee champs. Toss it right between you and that could create a long gap. Depending on the cast range and knockback range, this could also be a good initiate
E - If you throw it on an enemy, does it detonate right away?
R - Large AoE that does pure damage? Looks great for pub stomping.

Q is bouncing skill shot. E will have cast time before activation. R is also a skillshot afaik.

On January 28 2012 10:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Ok, since there's no Wukong thread, I'll ask here. How do you beat monkey in lane?

No sustain. Don't let him harass you for free and trade. If you have sustain, over the long run you should win. That and I think he has mana issues? Never played him but it seems that way the few times I've had to play him. Maybe the other guys just spammed stuff too much, idk lol.

On January 28 2012 10:22 napo wrote:
He seems so much fun. Definitely a buy when he comes out. :D Maybe someone (Moonbear) can give us the numbers on his scaling.

Even if I knew them, I wouldn't say anything because draft patch notes are NDA. :3
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 01:29:45
January 28 2012 01:28 GMT
#2826
On January 28 2012 10:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Ok, since there's no Wukong thread, I'll ask here. How do you beat monkey in lane? For some reason, this champion is the bane of my existence, and whenever I go up against him, no matter the champion, I always find a way to lose. I think this stems from not understanding the champion well, so some help would be greatly appreciated. I find that I always come out behind when I try to trade with him, and just get worn down when I only try to farm. So, what are monkey's weaknesses, and how do I exploit them best? This champ's giving me a lot of trouble, and while it probably has to do with me being bad, it would help if I knew how to play against him.

Thanks!


Wukong is pretty much guaranteed to get an EQ combo off unless you play super passive. You either have to out trade him (get some armor/health/hpregen) or play safe and get jungle ganks.
If you can outpoke him (Xerath, Ez) just poke since he can't retaliate without getting close.
If you can outtrade him (Garen, Swain) it's ezpz, just stop him from farming.

He shouldn't have mana issues unless he has to Decoy away from your retaliation.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 28 2012 01:31 GMT
#2827
i like more complicated champions, sounds great, very interested to see this new kind of skillshot!


Also, Oddone really revealing his inner self insulting new players on his stream with 15k people watching.
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
January 28 2012 01:31 GMT
#2828
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 28 2012 10:24 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 10:15 Chairman Ray wrote:
Q - Is this single target or AOE? Is it a skillshot?
W - Looks great vs melee champs. Toss it right between you and that could create a long gap. Depending on the cast range and knockback range, this could also be a good initiate
E - If you throw it on an enemy, does it detonate right away?
R - Large AoE that does pure damage? Looks great for pub stomping.

Q is bouncing skill shot. E will have cast time before activation. R is also a skillshot afaik.

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 10:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Ok, since there's no Wukong thread, I'll ask here. How do you beat monkey in lane?

No sustain. Don't let him harass you for free and trade. If you have sustain, over the long run you should win. That and I think he has mana issues? Never played him but it seems that way the few times I've had to play him. Maybe the other guys just spammed stuff too much, idk lol.

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 10:22 napo wrote:
He seems so much fun. Definitely a buy when he comes out. :D Maybe someone (Moonbear) can give us the numbers on his scaling.

Even if I knew them, I wouldn't say anything because draft patch notes are NDA. :3

Okay. Was just wondering. Patch comes next Wednesday, right?
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
warscythes
Profile Joined December 2011
365 Posts
January 28 2012 01:34 GMT
#2829
Patch is usually on Tuesday night 10-11PM for EST.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22578 Posts
January 28 2012 01:40 GMT
#2830
day later for EU.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 28 2012 01:43 GMT
#2831
On January 28 2012 10:31 napo wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 28 2012 10:24 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 10:15 Chairman Ray wrote:
Q - Is this single target or AOE? Is it a skillshot?
W - Looks great vs melee champs. Toss it right between you and that could create a long gap. Depending on the cast range and knockback range, this could also be a good initiate
E - If you throw it on an enemy, does it detonate right away?
R - Large AoE that does pure damage? Looks great for pub stomping.

Q is bouncing skill shot. E will have cast time before activation. R is also a skillshot afaik.

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 10:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Ok, since there's no Wukong thread, I'll ask here. How do you beat monkey in lane?

No sustain. Don't let him harass you for free and trade. If you have sustain, over the long run you should win. That and I think he has mana issues? Never played him but it seems that way the few times I've had to play him. Maybe the other guys just spammed stuff too much, idk lol.

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 10:22 napo wrote:
He seems so much fun. Definitely a buy when he comes out. :D Maybe someone (Moonbear) can give us the numbers on his scaling.

Even if I knew them, I wouldn't say anything because draft patch notes are NDA. :3

Okay. Was just wondering. Patch comes next Wednesday, right?



ull have the new champ next thursday
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 01:45:58
January 28 2012 01:44 GMT
#2832
I've been trying to jungle with Evelynn and it's really hard, any tips? Starting with armor 5 pots as standard and picking my Q first wolves then blue.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 01:47:42
January 28 2012 01:45 GMT
#2833
Moonbear, tell Riot if they want to make easy money they should rerelease old champion voices as skins.
I want old janna and anivia back.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 28 2012 01:57 GMT
#2834
Btw...



You crit haters.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
January 28 2012 01:57 GMT
#2835
On January 28 2012 10:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I've been trying to jungle with Evelynn and it's really hard, any tips? Starting with armor 5 pots as standard and picking my Q first wolves then blue.


It's called Eve sucks. Takes her to half HP spamming Q on wolves 24/7.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 28 2012 02:00 GMT
#2836
YES!!!! LEEE SIN NERF. THERE IS A GOD!
liftlift > tsm
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
January 28 2012 02:03 GMT
#2837
On January 28 2012 10:57 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 10:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I've been trying to jungle with Evelynn and it's really hard, any tips? Starting with armor 5 pots as standard and picking my Q first wolves then blue.


It's called Eve sucks. Takes her to half HP spamming Q on wolves 24/7.


Bleh, is she getting a buff any time soon or should I just avoid playing her for now?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 28 2012 02:06 GMT
#2838
She won't be changed until the stealth rework. Which has been in the spanners for months now, so...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
January 28 2012 02:07 GMT
#2839
As usual patch preview doesn't really talk about much substantially, have to wait for patch notes before celebrating or anything~
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
January 28 2012 02:10 GMT
#2840
Phreak commented on the "bouncing" idea.

The Z is Ziggs, the x's are there the bomb hits the ground

Z--x--x--x--(Explosion no matter what)

In practice most uses will hit it on the first X like a "normal" ranged aoe. But great Ziggs will get to abuse the range potentional.

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