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Use the Champion threads whenever appropriate.
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If you want to whine about server lag, use the QQ thread. We all suffer alike when Riot servers kaput. No need to make a post about it in GD.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 21:05:35
January 27 2012 21:04 GMT
#2801
Someone take the initiative and make a makeshift Kings of Europe thread and get people active in there? It doesn't have to be JBright quality but it just shouldn't be spammed in GD.

I'm heading out right now. I'll update the OP myself when I'm back later today. I just need someone to make a quick placeholder.

Thanks.

Edit: Spam in big notable format/text: Bans, Picks, Winnar
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 27 2012 21:06 GMT
#2802
done
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
January 27 2012 21:13 GMT
#2803
On January 28 2012 06:04 Two_DoWn wrote:
I cant believe how bad Candy and Nyph are now.


They never were good.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 27 2012 21:15 GMT
#2804
Jatt is doing a great job commentating
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 21:17:47
January 27 2012 21:15 GMT
#2805
On January 28 2012 06:13 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 06:04 Two_DoWn wrote:
I cant believe how bad Candy and Nyph are now.


They never were good.

that's a bold statement, considering how I remember people were saying candy/nyph was one of, if not the best, bot duos in EU not all that long ago. By that I meant, they were really good like...6 months ago.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
January 27 2012 21:15 GMT
#2806
Legendary AP Malphite is quite a sight in a televised game.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 27 2012 21:16 GMT
#2807
Use this thread hur:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306818
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 27 2012 21:21 GMT
#2808
oh joy now gonna have to deal with ap malphite every game along with shyvanna top and ad kennens bot...
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 27 2012 23:15 GMT
#2809
On January 28 2012 05:48 Mondieu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 21:57 Alaric wrote:
I tried AS on Trundle out of curiosity, noticed it took me one more it to kill some monsters (namely wolves) than with Arpen, and the way his Q works, it actually is a bit slower, I think, especially on buff camps.
He may become better if people keep on insisting with counter-jungling (yeah, go try to fight a champ with an aa-reset/AD debuff, a mass steroid, and a slow/terrain blocker, in his jungle), but I rediscovered the fun of playing him after getting tired of Maokai that's too dependant of his team to come to his help when counterjungled.

Not gonna care about Sivir's MS steroids when you can simply trap her back to the wall.

I think I'll buy Orianna/Lux (and have to go into blinds to play them, tried Ori but I was badder than now, never played Lux) since I've got some RP left, then try to learn jungle Udyr or Olaf.



So you say you have dimininished the damage dealt by our weapon/hits and it takes you one less hit killing the wolves, thus the time required clearing the wolves takes longer? Of course you need one more hit, but you will hit faster, and maybe it will actually save you time.


The thing is Trundle already has an AS steroid, and the way is Q works (resetting aa animation) it reduces the benefit of AS on him compared to a pure auto-attacker. Anyway, that was only my feeling, as I didn't time it nor paid attention to other camps. I did it more to get a global feeling.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 23:48:21
January 27 2012 23:31 GMT
#2810
Hmm, so i fixed my problems with streaming. Turns out it was not anything on my end, Livestream just sucks. Switched to Twitch.TV, and i am getting an average of 100ish ping compared to the 300 with Livestream.

So I will be able to stream now. Might actually stream after my dinner, will edit with the link if I decide to.

Edit: OK, streaming.
http://www.justin.tv/hiicantpk
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 23:34:09
January 27 2012 23:33 GMT
#2811
The problem with trundle is that you just don't counter jungle him even the junglers who farm hardest gank stronger farm more and scale better IMO.

Obviously if said farmed jungler runs in and gets trundled ulted and dies it doesn't count. You have to assume reasonably intelligent play.

You should run pure AD on trundle probably, getting arpen is not worth losing jungle clear time. Camps don't have much armour, the 6 in offensive usually does the trick.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 28 2012 00:26 GMT
#2812
On January 28 2012 06:04 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 05:56 Two_DoWn wrote:
Riot should be BEGGING Jatt to replace Phreak as a caster.


Phreak is ok-ish imo. Jatt is on a whole other level though.

Phreak sort of has this way where he ends up trying to say everything and take over the entire cast. He tries to both cast and commentate at the same time and ends up sucking and both. This is most apparent when he's casting with Rivington, as Rivington just ends up getting forced to be mostly silent, making awkward interjections every once in a while.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 28 2012 00:41 GMT
#2813
I think that Phreak would be good if he didn't try to cast. Just commentate the games because he by far gets the most excited about big plays of all the other people who commentate/cast LoL. If you matched someone like Jatt with Phreak I think that could actually be a good duo so long as Phreak kept his ideas and opinions on builds and stuff to himself and merely got excited and yelled when interesting things happen.
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
January 28 2012 00:49 GMT
#2814
Why is it that Skarner is a really popular/strong solo queue jungler but sees very little use in competitive play?
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
January 28 2012 00:59 GMT
#2815
On January 28 2012 09:49 arnath wrote:
Why is it that Skarner is a really popular/strong solo queue jungler but sees very little use in competitive play?

Because pros have no trouble focusing targets, which is something that Skarner enables your team to do in solo queue. Otherwise he's not especially more powerful than the other strong junglers. With that said, I do seem to recall him getting picked a few times at Kiev.
3.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
January 28 2012 01:01 GMT
#2816
On January 28 2012 09:49 arnath wrote:
Why is it that Skarner is a really popular/strong solo queue jungler but sees very little use in competitive play?


I find that Skarner just doesn't offer as much utility in team fights, especially vs organized teams. As we saw in Kiev, it's not easy for Skarner to go and grab their carry. In solo queue, people get caught out of position, people don't protect the carry, carries get baited, etc. In competitive play, this doesn't happen as much, so a lot of team fights Skarner just ends up grabbing Irelia or Lee Sin and it doesn't do anything.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 28 2012 01:05 GMT
#2817
They just revealed Ziggs abilities.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1756943

The boucing bomb mechanic sound interessing, so does the remote control explosives. He sounds to be what people want with AP Gragas. ( who was not design as a mage so )
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22147 Posts
January 28 2012 01:07 GMT
#2818
On January 28 2012 09:49 arnath wrote:
Why is it that Skarner is a really popular/strong solo queue jungler but sees very little use in competitive play?


As others have already said skarner punishes bad play. A carry out of position is an easy kill of skarner can get an ult off.
Tobad pro players dont allow themselves to get into these positions very often.
Its the same reason a lot of other solo queue stompers arnt played in tournaments. The amount of mistakes made is very small and champions who need those mistakes to work rapidly fall in usefullness.
The same can also be seen just in solo Q. Champions that stomp through lesser players like xin zhoa for a long time where never picked higher up the ladder because people just play better.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22147 Posts
January 28 2012 01:11 GMT
#2819
The new champions sounds like another champion who really takes skill to play effectively and all to often they end up a nightmare to balance. Its easy to make him horrible OP for someone who knows how the champion works but normal players perform terrible with him leading to buffs and a broken champion, or nerfs because of dominating tournament performance and a become totaly useless.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
January 28 2012 01:15 GMT
#2820
New champion:

Q - Is this single target or AOE? Is it a skillshot?
W - Looks great vs melee champs. Toss it right between you and that could create a long gap. Depending on the cast range and knockback range, this could also be a good initiate
E - If you throw it on an enemy, does it detonate right away?
R - Large AoE that does pure damage? Looks great for pub stomping.
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