[Patch 1.0.0.131: Viktor] General Discussion - Page 8

On December 31 2011 00:41 Sabin010 wrote:
To beat the fish, you must lane vs the fish(...)

On December 30 2011 18:55 Shiv. wrote:

Entirely skipping Rylai's? That sounds like an idea. Don't you find your survivability a little bit lackluster?

On December 31 2011 01:13 Two_DoWn wrote:

At that point in the game, who cares? I jump in, ult them, and they melt. Remember, an ap caster is meant to kill shit. For someone like kennen who really only needs to ult, killing shit faster and forcing the enemy team to deal with you is better than not being able to kill shit and being alive.

On December 30 2011 18:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

Actually, I believe I've solved the mystery.

Kennen induces a constant counter-clockwise (looking head-on) current in the air around him. This produces a constant outwards-pointing magnetic field.

Figure 1:
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When Kennen throws the Kunai, there's also a current running through the perimeter of it. As the Kunai moves in the magnetic field, it experiences forces on each side due to the electric current running through it. These forces produce a net torque that makes the Kunai spin, as seen in the animation.

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PHYSICS! (Hope I didn't screw this up, lol)

On December 31 2011 01:35 Hynda wrote:
I wasn't the one bringing logic into this! I just said it looked god awful and it does! Then he said "But a kunai would spin" and I just wanted to point out that you can't really make that argument cause in the real world it wouldn't work.
Yes sure he can make them spin by magic, STILL LOOKS DUMB. It's as if Ashes arrows would start spinning sideways in one of her skins, it would look ridiculous and nobody would get that skin.

On December 31 2011 01:35 Hynda wrote:
I wasn't the one bringing logic into this! I just said it looked god awful and it does! Then he said "But a kunai would spin" and I just wanted to point out that you can't really make that argument cause in the real world it wouldn't work.
Yes sure he can make them spin by magic, STILL LOOKS DUMB. It's as if Ashes arrows would start spinning sideways in one of her skins, it would look ridiculous and nobody would get that skin.

On December 31 2011 02:33 JackDino wrote:
As a mage, you first or second big item should always be deathcap. If you go Wota into rylais you wont do da damage compared to the enemy AP, gl chasing and cleaing up without any real damage.

On December 31 2011 02:43 Shiv. wrote:

Yeah, chasing on Kennen too hard Also, Karthus and Fizz would like a word with you. Not saying most mages shouldn't, but not every mage is supposed to. Ahri and I'm guessing Victor will probably not build an early Deathcap either. Rumble might if he lanes mid, but does not necessarily have to. I'm not seasoned enough on Kennen to know wether he needs it as a second item or not, but I know there's champs who don't need Deathcap as their 2nd big item, that's why I was asking.

Edit: While we're at it, I know some people prefer Rylai's -> WotA on Cass. How viable is that?

On December 31 2011 02:43 Shiv. wrote:

Yeah, chasing on Kennen too hard Also, Karthus and Fizz would like a word with you. Not saying most mages shouldn't, but not every mage is supposed to. Ahri and I'm guessing Victor will probably not build an early Deathcap either. Rumble might if he lanes mid, but does not necessarily have to. I'm not seasoned enough on Kennen to know wether he needs it as a second item or not, but I know there's champs who don't need Deathcap as their 2nd big item, that's why I was asking.

Edit: While we're at it, I know some people prefer Rylai's -> WotA on Cass. How viable is that?

On December 31 2011 02:49 Sponkz wrote:



If you dont go RoA -> Rabadons with karthus what do you do then?

On December 31 2011 02:56 Parnage wrote:
You go Deathcap first on Kennen when you can get away with it. (ie you are most likely mid and the only ap and so you need the damage)

You go Scepter first on Kennen when you need to survive and kite(most likely playing top lane and or not the only ap dmg dealer on team)

I am not generally a Kennen player but I thought this was the general rule of thumb.

On December 31 2011 02:29 Parnage wrote:


Actually I said Kunai are not supposed to be thrown(big misconception that) in the first place and if you did throw them you would most likely need to spin them this is assuming it's balanced for it I have no idea I just know you don't bloody throw them.

So in short, Kennen does whatever the hell he wants because are you going to tell him otherwise? of course not. He'll hit R and run at you.

On December 31 2011 01:55 CokeFTW wrote:
I go WOTA > RYLIAS > DEATHCAP for Kennen. Have like 75% wr on Kennen in ranked. All I can say is Kennen doesn't lose lane

On December 31 2011 02:49 Sponkz wrote:



If you dont go RoA -> Rabadons with karthus what do you do then?