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[Patch 1.0.0.131: Viktor] General Discussion - Page 7

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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 09:15:18
December 30 2011 09:06 GMT
#121
On December 30 2011 14:03 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 13:59 NotSorry wrote:
On December 30 2011 13:11 Requizen wrote:
Meh, magic and physics are separate. He's not going to magically make his kunai spin instead of fly straight, he's just going to throw them. Magic swords are magic, kunai are kunai.

/nitpick


He uses his lightning abilities to create different magnetic poles on the kunai forcing it to spin

The only way that would work is if he consistently switched which poles were positive and negative, otherwise one end would just constantly point North.

Why am I doing this?

Actually, I believe I've solved the mystery.

Kennen induces a constant counter-clockwise (looking head-on) current in the air around him. This produces a constant outwards-pointing magnetic field.

Figure 1:
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When Kennen throws the Kunai, there's also a current running through the perimeter of it. As the Kunai moves in the magnetic field, it experiences forces on each side due to the electric current running through it. These forces produce a net torque that makes the Kunai spin, as seen in the animation.

Figure 2:
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[image loading]


PHYSICS! (Hope I didn't screw this up, lol)
you gotta dance
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17275 Posts
December 30 2011 09:11 GMT
#122
I miss playing Rammus in ranked ;(
twitch.tv/cratonz
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
December 30 2011 09:15 GMT
#123
On December 30 2011 18:11 Craton wrote:
I miss playing Rammus in ranked ;(


Because he gets banned every game? <_<
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 09:17:31
December 30 2011 09:17 GMT
#124
Triforce Rammus so good. Free wins everytime he's not banned. =D

On another note, since I almost missed todays date myself: Feel free to check the youtube mainpage (make sure you have set the region to worldwide on the bottom of the page if you're from EU) and look at how TL won the internet once again. ^.^
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 30 2011 09:19 GMT
#125
On December 30 2011 18:17 r.Evo wrote:
Triforce Rammus so good. Free wins everytime he's not banned. =D

On another note, since I almost missed todays date myself: Feel free to check the youtube mainpage (make sure you have set the region to worldwide on the bottom of the page if you're from EU) and look at how TL won the internet once again. ^.^

I'm not alone, *sniff*
In the woods, there lurks..
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 09:55:14
December 30 2011 09:49 GMT
#126
Kennen's kunai in his new skin spins because he's a stupid annoying lady squirrel who wants it to spin, physics play no part in this.
Is there anyone who's active on the PBE?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 10:06:22
December 30 2011 09:55 GMT
#127
On December 30 2011 14:26 Two_DoWn wrote:
PS- correct kennen build is wota->cap.

Entirely skipping Rylai's? That sounds like an idea. Don't you find your survivability a little bit lackluster?
currently rooting for myself.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 30 2011 09:56 GMT
#128
On December 30 2011 18:55 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 14:26 Two_DoWn wrote:
PS- correct kennen build is wota->cap.

Entirely skipping Rylai's? That sounds like an idea. Don't you feel your survivability a little bit lackluster?

Wota gives you incredible survivability.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 30 2011 10:06 GMT
#129
I get Zhonya's either after RoA or Deathcap on Morgana, depending on how well I do. I get it on Swain too, but usually later. Initially I did RoA->WotA, but just getting deathcap gives him more healing than the AP+spellvamp from WotA, so I try that as a second big item. I'd get Zhonya's if I really tended to die a lot, altho I agree resistances quite early are good on him too.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
December 30 2011 12:30 GMT
#130
On December 30 2011 18:11 Craton wrote:
I miss playing Rammus in ranked ;(

Oh Craton, no more stream Ram
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
December 30 2011 12:40 GMT
#131
holy shit. Viktor gets shitted on by talon so badly lol. Asides from the fact that he had MR runes everything about him was BS for viktor. Viktor can't use Q without getting punished HARD, his stun is not very good in lane, his E is tough to hit when talon can use his E. Not only this but Viktor has some really low base hp. I realize that Talon is kind of an antimage assassin but i got rocked so hard.

Anyways, I've played like 6-7 games with him now and he's got some crazy burst lol. Casting everything at once and then igniting the person in lane does like 1/2 - 3/4 hp lol. Most of the burst comes from the ulti though but it's pretty ridiculous.
BW -> League -> CSGO
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
December 30 2011 13:15 GMT
#132
On December 30 2011 21:40 wussleeQ wrote:


Anyways, I've played like 6-7 games with him now and he's got some crazy burst lol. Casting everything at once and then igniting the person in lane does like 1/2 - 3/4 hp lol. Most of the burst comes from the ulti though but it's pretty ridiculous.

How is that ridiculous? Brand, Xerath, Annie, Morgana, Cassiopeia (spamming E), Ahri, Anivia, Fizz, Gragas, LeBonk, Katarina, Lux, Malz, Swain, VEIGARZ, Zilean all do that. I really don't get how that's out of the ordinary.
currently rooting for myself.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
December 30 2011 13:26 GMT
#133
On December 30 2011 22:15 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 21:40 wussleeQ wrote:


Anyways, I've played like 6-7 games with him now and he's got some crazy burst lol. Casting everything at once and then igniting the person in lane does like 1/2 - 3/4 hp lol. Most of the burst comes from the ulti though but it's pretty ridiculous.

How is that ridiculous? Brand, Xerath, Annie, Morgana, Cassiopeia (spamming E), Ahri, Anivia, Fizz, Gragas, LeBonk, Katarina, Lux, Malz, Swain, VEIGARZ, Zilean all do that. I really don't get how that's out of the ordinary.



I just think he made a point that he didn't suck major ass like some champions do on release.
hi
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
December 30 2011 13:34 GMT
#134
On December 30 2011 22:26 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 22:15 Shiv. wrote:
On December 30 2011 21:40 wussleeQ wrote:


Anyways, I've played like 6-7 games with him now and he's got some crazy burst lol. Casting everything at once and then igniting the person in lane does like 1/2 - 3/4 hp lol. Most of the burst comes from the ulti though but it's pretty ridiculous.

How is that ridiculous? Brand, Xerath, Annie, Morgana, Cassiopeia (spamming E), Ahri, Anivia, Fizz, Gragas, LeBonk, Katarina, Lux, Malz, Swain, VEIGARZ, Zilean all do that. I really don't get how that's out of the ordinary.

I just think he made a point that he didn't suck major ass like some champions do on release.

Are you thinking about release Orianna ? Because people said exactly the same thing about her iirc <3
The legend of Darien lives on
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 14:03:32
December 30 2011 14:03 GMT
#135
A Fizz just dodged my DFG+Ult when I played Veigar. That Fish. That Fish. Does anyone else feel he's super strong but underplayed? I suck at him so IDK.
currently rooting for myself.
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
December 30 2011 14:20 GMT
#136
On December 30 2011 23:03 Shiv. wrote:
A Fizz just dodged my DFG+Ult when I played Veigar. That Fish. That Fish. Does anyone else feel he's super strong but underplayed? I suck at him so IDK.

yes. he's like riven, people go nuts for a week after they're released but almost nobody actually invests the time to actually get good until later when people realize that they are too strong
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
December 30 2011 14:23 GMT
#137
On December 30 2011 23:20 Attakijing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 23:03 Shiv. wrote:
A Fizz just dodged my DFG+Ult when I played Veigar. That Fish. That Fish. Does anyone else feel he's super strong but underplayed? I suck at him so IDK.

yes. he's like riven, people go nuts for a week after they're released but almost nobody actually invests the time to actually get good until later when people realize that they are too strong

Plus he's very painful to target in teamfights, especially if he's on purple side, behind all his frontlane... STUPID LITTLE FISH.
The legend of Darien lives on
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 15:28:22
December 30 2011 15:27 GMT
#138
The Fish is indeed extremely good, first champion that I ever insta-bought on release, and once you understand his laning matchups, some of which are difficult he is SO STRONK, it's not even funny. Some matchups are really jungle reliant though, and that sucks in solo queue ._.
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
December 30 2011 15:39 GMT
#139
Counters Kassadin, thats all I can contribute. Quite ironic a mage counters an anti mage.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
December 30 2011 15:41 GMT
#140
To beat the fish, you must lane vs the fish. Pick a champ like Irelia, and use flat mr blues and quints. Start with the mr mantel and build a chalice and philo stone on the first trip back. This should give you 100 mr to fight Mr. Fizz, now you're free to trade with him and keep him from farming the minions. If you can shut his farm down like 4-1 a, and make him your bitch in lane, he will become a non-threat. You're also free to harass that guy anytime after level 4 if his e is on cd you're free to dive him unless you don't have a ward.
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