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On January 15 2012 19:51 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 19:45 JackDino wrote:On January 15 2012 19:40 mr_tolkien wrote:On January 15 2012 19:37 JackDino wrote:On January 15 2012 19:30 mr_tolkien wrote:On January 15 2012 16:35 NeoIllusions wrote:On January 15 2012 16:34 rizzla wrote:
I have seen several Mords lately. Mostly they have been doing better than they used to. wai hallo thar~ How do you build him ? I feel like he really needs CDR to be fully effective but have no idea how to itemize it. CDR Boots and dfg put you on 34% with masteries if you really want, that leaves blue elixir and it'll put you on 40. You don't really need full cdr tho, you just farm farm farm farm farm and then you gib their carry and kill everyone. DFG helps with that though. Nothing more fun against facecheckers than dfg morde. Also OMG RIOT SO UNORIGINAL NEW CHAMP IS INVERTED MOBILE ANIVIA OMG RIOT WTF. Something along those lines, surprised I haven't seen it yet by now. DFG itemizes mana regen so I'm reluctant to buy it on Morde >.> I hate to pay for useless stats ! Yeah you better not buy lichbane on akali or morde, better not buy triforce on morde, better not buy boots on morde because he doesn't use them. In fact don't buy any armour on morde because he doesn't use it he's 40% titanium 60% other metals, can't wear armour. 10 MP5 is worth something like 450g, this is not cheap in the cost of DFG :o The mana in Lichbane/TriForce is also costly, but it's offset by a godlike passive (in a 1260g object) for Akali who has high base AD and low CDs. The access to the passive on DFG is 2k6 gold, so you have a useless item in your stash longer. I'll try it though, I really think that he's unkillable with CDR and massive spellvamp.
You are mordekaiser, 450g is like nothing to you lol. Also just get an early pick if you can and the item will be cheaper anyways.
Morde is not unkillable with cdr and massive spellvamp, morde is unkillable with warmogs and 5 resist items, don't need vamp when warmogs and force of nature restore your spellcosts and your hp barely drops with shield always up. You don't do any damage though.
There's always spirit visage if you really really think the mp5 on dfg will make you bankrupt.
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So just went 10-10-20 as jungling amumu, lost, and the main reason I lost, ENEMY SINGED. Seriously. Singed is freaking unkillable >.<, Are they ever going to nerf him? the only thing i've noticed now is that his lane phase is really bad, considering the current meta.
On another note, i've only played like 10-20 games ever since jungle changes. ZOMG jungling is a bitch. Also, any tips on counter jungling? I almost never ever counter jungle, just because I always feel that I'd lose in a 1v1 against the enemy jungler
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shhh, we don't need singed fotm again. I don't want to deal with that shit.
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On January 15 2012 20:27 wei2coolman wrote:
So just went 10-10-20 as jungling amumu, lost, and the main reason I lost, ENEMY SINGED. Seriously. Singed is freaking unkillable >.<, Are they ever going to nerf him? the only thing i've noticed now is that his lane phase is really bad, considering the current meta.
On another note, i've only played like 10-20 games ever since jungle changes. ZOMG jungling is a bitch. Also, any tips on counter jungling? I almost never ever counter jungle, just because I always feel that I'd lose in a 1v1 against the enemy jungler
Play a champ that can farm fast and has reasonably good 1v1 dueling.
That and just ward a lot and go when you know you are safe; If you steal his blue while he is trying to gank he can't do anything about it, whereas if you try to steal his blue/wraiths while you have no vision of him/jungle you just end up making a risky move for nothing.
Its sounds silly to use enough wards to get that much vision of the map but really if you steal Wraiths thats a ward right there. Go in when you know it is safe and put wards on his buffs and the brush going from mid into the jungle. With these four wards you pretty much always know where they are. You don't necessarily need to do both buffs or what have you, you can start small by just warding whichever buff you want (maybe their jungler is really dependent on maintaining a particular buff, maybe your champ really wants a particular one (ie mumu really likes blue, Shy really likes red)) and the brush leading into it. If you have vision of these guys then you know they either are or aren't there and can usually make a decent read. If you don't physically see their jungler though either be super careful or enlist help of your teammates.
I try to keep these four wards up in my own jungle too, as well as imo the most important wards in any game between Baron/Dragon and the middle lane; these wards let you seee like EVERYTHING whether it is their jungler counterjungling you, laners roaming for a gank, jungler roaming for a gank, teams going Dragon/Baron etc. Those two wards are game changing because they let you always make informed decisions.
Other than that, early game you can really damage their jungle if you take their big minions and leave them with only little ones (camps don't start to respawn unless you kill everything) and later in the game I think it is better to just kill the whole camp because then you can get into a rhythm of when the uptime is and you can just freefarm their wraiths for 2-3 minutes (most junglers get wise after awhile though, be careful).
In general the higher the risk your counter jungle, the higher the reward, but remember if you don't do anything you don't lose anything whereas if you do and you don't get anything out of it you are behind because you lost gold farm, and time in which you could have been doing something else so if you aren't sure you can do it safely it is never a bad idea to just say "screw it."
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Jinro playing Pantheon on his stream, did not expect less of him :D
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LOL, Jinro plays LoL now? Bosssss. Tyler vs Jinro goggogo
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regi like a giggly little schoolgril in this 73-18 game lol, real trolls
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Reginald with 40+ kills that game hahaha.
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Sejuani seems really cool. Can't wait to play her
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aaah if only jinro didnt keep chickening out at lvl 1 
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So who here will have the honour to coach Jinro to high Elo ? :p
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Wait what ? Jinro is playing LoL ?
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Did someone watch the 44/3/2 regi leblanc game? Didnt watch the end of it. Did they.... lose?
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On Morgana: she got first picked by the enemy, I got Gragas. Meanwhile, their was an Eve bot, that the duo failed to keep in check, and never called missing early. While she was roaming they never tried to zone Cait nor harass her, or push the tower hard enough. Top Teemo thought he'd be able to counter Riven. Didn't go so well.
The result? Our jungle had to gank top a lot, while I had to deal with several Eve ganks (one resulting in a death because they called ss too late, basically right when she attacked me), a Fiddle gank at 6 and a Riven toweer dive from behind one minute or two after Teemo lost his turret.
Morgana outfarmed me, got more kills, did better in teamfights and took my turret. Is she OP? Is she uncounterable? No. She's just doing better when she gets a 2v1 while her team's carry got same cs and solo xp from our duo bot. Do I mean "like about any other champ"? Why, yes.
Graves still blaming the loss on not banning Morg tho. And I know, this has got more to do with people being retards. But dealing badly with Morgana and thinking she's first pick/ban material has a lot to do with retards. Except not at Amumu's levels.
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On January 16 2012 00:17 Alaric wrote:
On Morgana: she got first picked by the enemy, I got Gragas. Meanwhile, their was an Eve bot, that the duo failed to keep in check, and never called missing early. While she was roaming they never tried to zone Cait nor harass her, or push the tower hard enough. Top Teemo thought he'd be able to counter Riven. Didn't go so well.
The result? Our jungle had to gank top a lot, while I had to deal with several Eve ganks (one resulting in a death because they called ss too late, basically right when she attacked me), a Fiddle gank at 6 and a Riven toweer dive from behind one minute or two after Teemo lost his turret.
Morgana outfarmed me, got more kills, did better in teamfights and took my turret. Is she OP? Is she uncounterable? No. She's just doing better when she gets a 2v1 while her team's carry got same cs and solo xp from our duo bot. Do I mean "like about any other champ"? Why, yes.
Graves still blaming the loss on not banning Morg tho. And I know, this has got more to do with people being retards. But dealing badly with Morgana and thinking she's first pick/ban material has a lot to do with retards. Except not at Amumu's levels.
Looks like QQ to me :p
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On January 15 2012 22:56 Senx wrote:
Sejuani seems really cool. Can't wait to play her
If by "really cool" you mean "has an extremely broken champion design", then yes, I'd agree with you.
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Does anybody else find they play a lot better without music playing?
I love playing with music but I find my concentration level is just waaaay lower with music on.
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Na, I put it there specifically because Graves said "Morg not banned, we lose, gg" in champ select, but was then the factor that allowed her to win her lane. Kinda self-fulfilling prophecy.  It's also typical of the behaviour of players: after the first Eve gank I noticed them that I wouldn't hold the 2v1 nor hinder Morg's farm if they didn't make bot lane pay for being 1v2. Graves whined, but never made any move in that direction, playing a role in how things went, but blaming the "Morg not banned, OP" rather than admitting his wrongs. And then on his next game he'll ask for a Morg ban, but won't play any better if she's picked.
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