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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On January 11 2012 01:55 mordek wrote: So I thought you were suppose to get a level of E on Skarner pre-4, at least that's what I had seen in all the guides but SV is level ten and has yet to level it. Level 13 gets his first level of E. All the guides ? http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=13232 | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On January 11 2012 02:01 stormtemplar wrote: Where are these patch notes from? I couldn't find them? Red posts, Viktor one is here: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=19521637#post19521637 | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On January 11 2012 02:02 mr_tolkien wrote: All the guides ? http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=13232 Not when I last checked >.> Thanks though. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On January 11 2012 02:02 mr_tolkien wrote: All the guides ? http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=13232 Except every other Featured and Approved guide on Solomid says to get it at 2 or 3. You just max it last because the damage/heal scaling isn't that high. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On January 11 2012 02:01 stormtemplar wrote: Where are these patch notes from? I couldn't find them? http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1691958 On January 11 2012 01:51 rizzla wrote: I'm not sure if this is the place for it or not, but someone brought up the TL LoL wiki earlier. Is there any reason that there can't be an "official" LoL wiki hosted on TL similar to the SC1 and SC2 wikis? If the rumors are true that the LoL subform may be getting an expansion somtime in the future, it seems fitting that perhaps the wiki gets moved in house. Liquipedia has always been and will probably always be a Starcraft compendium. Teamliquid is an SC website and that won't change. As for our TL LoL Wiki we have? Well, the problem is that maintaining and updating a wiki requires a massive amount of manhours of which we don't have. We'd also be encroaching into the territory of the actual LoL Wiki which we can't really compete with either and probably have no intention of competing against either. | ||
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On January 11 2012 02:05 -Kato- wrote: Is Talon played in NA? I have literally never seen him in a month in ranked games in EU. Is he not able to cope with bruiser tops? He is indeed quite bad VS a lot of bruisers. He's a situationnal pick, but still a very very very good pubstomper. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On January 11 2012 02:05 -Kato- wrote: Is Talon played in NA? I have literally never seen him in a month in ranked games in EU. Is he not able to cope with bruiser tops? He's actually put Bot or Mid a lot when I see him. Against squishy AP or AD opponents, his teleport/silence/burst/slow/invis combo guarantees a kill so many times it's not even funny. He's not as good against tanky/bruiser types. | ||
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rizzla
United States45 Posts
On January 11 2012 02:05 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Liquipedia has always been and will probably always be a Starcraft compendium. Teamliquid is an SC website and that won't change. As for our TL LoL Wiki we have? Well, the problem is that maintaining and updating a wiki requires a massive amount of manhours of which we don't have. We'd also be encroaching into the territory of the actual LoL Wiki which we can't really compete with either and probably have no intention of competing against either. I agree that it was created with the goal of everything StarCraft in mind. However, TL has become an extremely large eSports community that houses many different groups (EVE, LoL, DoTa, etc). Encompassing more than just SC allows for more traffic and thus more ad revenue. I don't think that the powers that be would argue against something that has absolutely no negative impact. I believe it purely exists on the will to branch out and grow the TL community. Food for thought. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On January 11 2012 02:08 mr_tolkien wrote: He is indeed quite bad VS a lot of bruisers. He's a situationnal pick, but still a very very very good pubstomper. Which is why you put him mid. He is an anti caster, and will stomp pretty much every ap you can throw at him. I actually am surprised we dont see him more if teams are running double ap double will shenanigans. Although US doesnt really have any talon players. West kind of does, and scarra kind of does, but thats about it. If any team could run talon it would probably be EG just because dig doenst have anyone else who can fill the ap carry role if they chose to send scarra, whereas everyone on EG can pretty much do anything. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On January 11 2012 02:05 -Kato- wrote: Is Talon played in NA? I have literally never seen him in a month in ranked games in EU. Is he not able to cope with bruiser tops? I see him pretty often vs really dumb 1st or 2nd Kassadin picks. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On January 11 2012 02:17 Two_DoWn wrote: Which is why you put him mid. He is an anti caster, and will stomp pretty much every ap you can throw at him. I actually am surprised we dont see him more if teams are running double ap double will shenanigans. Although US doesnt really have any talon players. West kind of does, and scarra kind of does, but thats about it. If any team could run talon it would probably be EG just because dig doenst have anyone else who can fill the ap carry role if they chose to send scarra, whereas everyone on EG can pretty much do anything. Yeah it's so sad that, i facepalm so hard because everytime i have a talon+kennen in my team kennen goes mid, talon goes top cause "melee ad has to be top, ap has to be mid!!!!!!!!!!!!!". EUNE is this sad - i'm at 1700 Elo there and back in the times when i was still playing on NA at 1500 Elo people were way smarter/had more expanded minds  | ||
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dooraven
Australia2820 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On January 11 2012 02:21 Kaniol wrote: Yeah it's so sad that, i facepalm so hard because everytime i have a talon+kennen in my team kennen goes mid, talon goes top cause "melee ad has to be top, ap has to be mid!!!!!!!!!!!!!". EUNE is this sad - i'm at 1700 Elo there and back in the times when i was still playing on NA at 1500 Elo people were way smarter/had more expanded minds Thats because NA solo q is 300 points lower for the same skill level. And are the chinese new year skins limited? | ||
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 11 2012 02:00 Requizen wrote: I generally tried to build him a bit tankier, something like Rylai's or WotA first -> Death Augment -> Rabadoodle/[WotA or Rylai's (whichever I didn't get)]. Death as augment, level E first, means you get some cheap AP and Death Ray hits like a bitch. Worked pretty well for me. I'm not a great AP player, but I had mild to good success with this. You really only have 4 item slots (augment and boots taking the others, natch), so I found through trying all of them a handful of times that getting damage from Death and getting WotA and Rylai's for sustain/beef is nice. DC naturally, then Void Staff/DFG for damage, or Abyssal Scepter/Zhonya's for more defense. That's the kind of build I aim for too, but I was seeing two problems with that: - weak mp5, and the Gravity Field unusable except for counter-initiation/fleeing push me to augment Gravity, and I tended never to OS minions before the late game, putting them all at 50 hp was kind of annoying - slot efficiency. A single slot doesn't look like much in the early game, but Hex Core + boots + wards + pots, and if you ever start doran ring you'll be short on space if you build something expensive like Rylai. I guess I'll try boots first into amp. tome and then proceed to rylai, with the mp5 boost. Perhaps a dr, but not two. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On January 11 2012 02:40 -Kato- wrote: So you're telling me being 1550 in EU means I'm 1250 NA? Thats the way the math works. You are lucky I made it conservative with 300 points. Gman Bob was 1500 last season on US (I know cuz I played with him twice) and now he is 2k on Eu West. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On January 11 2012 02:40 -Kato- wrote: So you're telling me being 1550 in EU means I'm 1250 NA? If you're on EU NE yes, because almost no one plays on NE and most of them are really bad. If you play on EUW and you are 1550 you are like 1800 in the US. On January 11 2012 02:42 Two_DoWn wrote: Thats the way the math works. You are lucky I made it conservative with 300 points. Gman Bob was 1500 last season on US (I know cuz I played with him twice) and now he is 2k on Eu West. So because 1 player got 500 elo higher(I'm pretty sure he was atleast 1700 or higher on US at a time) on a platform where he had 100 less ping, over the course of 1 year, by your logic every single player who is 2k on EUW is as good as 1800 NA players because they are lucky. So if chaox would play on eu he'd magically be 2700, cool. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On January 11 2012 01:45 Alaric wrote: Could you go into a bit more details about how you play him? I haven't been able to pick him a lot, and I mainly tried him top as I felt his mp5 would make him weak against pushers. I generally got more or less destroyed as his stun is nowhere near as good as Swain's Q, W, or Ryze's W (it's better on ganks, but not when some sustainable bruiser rushes you, esp against gap closers). Mid... mid I had a Gragas. 'nuff said. I'm still learning him myself, tbh, just picked him up a few days ago. I have noticed he can suffer a bit against aggressive pushers, but that may change with this mp5 buff. For the most part, early I just cs. Don't have to be too aggressive, but if I can use my laser to grab a cs or two while also hitting my opponent, I try to do so. I find myself rarely dying to ganks. His W is great for anti-initiation. It's just a "GTFO I DON'T WANT YOU THERE" tool. It does have a slightly long cooldown though. It is also harder to land on an opponent than say Swain's or Ryze's, so ganking for Viktor can also be tough, depending on the jungler. I go my standard AP page (Mpen reds, MRegen Yellows, MR blues, AP quints - been like this forever and haven't really ever wanted to change it). Boots + 3 start. I've been going 2 drings to Death Augment, then DCap and Wota. From there it's pretty situational. In fights, I'll drop my W either on them to keep them from casting/moving, or on myself/my allies to keep bruisers off and interrupt initiation. Ult burst is huge, so drop it on the back line. It does big damage on impact and silences, and then I'll usually keep it on whomever I want to distract and keep out of the fight (often AD carry). People don't like having rain clouds over their heads. Laser as many as possible, and throw your Q in for some beefiness. | ||
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