[Patch 1.0.0.131: Viktor] General Discussion - Page 146

On January 11 2012 02:17 rizzla wrote:

I agree that it was created with the goal of everything StarCraft in mind. However, TL has become an extremely large eSports community that houses many different groups (EVE, LoL, DoTa, etc). Encompassing more than just SC allows for more traffic and thus more ad revenue. I don't think that the powers that be would argue against something that has absolutely no negative impact. I believe it purely exists on the will to branch out and grow the TL community. Food for thought.

On January 11 2012 02:42 Alaric wrote:
Regarding Skarner I noticed that TOO doesn't get E before level... at least not before 8 or 9.



That's the kind of build I aim for too, but I was seeing two problems with that:
- weak mp5, and the Gravity Field unusable except for counter-initiation/fleeing push me to augment Gravity, and I tended never to OS minions before the late game, putting them all at 50 hp was kind of annoying
- slot efficiency. A single slot doesn't look like much in the early game, but Hex Core + boots + wards + pots, and if you ever start doran ring you'll be short on space if you build something expensive like Rylai.

I guess I'll try boots first into amp. tome and then proceed to rylai, with the mp5 boost. Perhaps a dr, but not two.

On January 11 2012 02:05 Requizen wrote:

Except every other Featured and Approved guide on Solomid says to get it at 2 or 3. You just max it last because the damage/heal scaling isn't that high.

On January 11 2012 02:56 Beyonder wrote:
Time to get active on the LoL forums! Got 30 a bit ago and steamrolled to 1555 right now on EU West. Watching LoL is actually quite fun, guess ill watching CLG vs mTl some ^_^

Meh, also need good 5s :o

On January 11 2012 02:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Did anyone notice that after the jungle changes that the frequency of ganks have actually gone up?

I remember a few weeks back, everyone was ridiculing how the new jungle was going to be a farm fest, (I even said this myself). Damn was I wrong.

On January 11 2012 02:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Did anyone notice that after the jungle changes that the frequency of ganks have actually gone up?

I remember a few weeks back, everyone was ridiculing how the new jungle was going to be a farm fest, (I even said this myself). Damn was I wrong.

On January 11 2012 02:59 Treadmill wrote:

I remember watching TheOddOne's stream when he was talking about this. Apparently Dan Dinh was the first person to try to do this (not get any levels in e), and then TOO decided to try to copy it and found he really liked it. It's become what I do on jungle skarner and its a lot better imo.

The reasoning is: skarner will always run out of mana before he runs out of health, unless you have blue buff. Skarner's 'e' costs a lot of mana conisdering his small mana pool (205 + 40/lvl) and doesn't do much damage compared to its cost, expecially compared to the damage/mana of his 'q'. So his e is a trap. If you use it clearing jungle then, yes, you will be at a higher amount of health but you will have to recall earlier anyways because you will run out of mana (unless you get all the blue buffs but you should be giving them to others).

In contrast extra levels in his 'w' are super useful (I'm assuming levelling q first anyways). You are going ot be using your 'w' to clear camps anyways since the as makes your clear significantly faster (unless you are conserving mana but then no 'e' either). Extra levels in it will give you more shield, and therefore keep you at higher health, without costing any extra mana like adding 'e' would. It also makes you a little faster for ganks, which is nice. Most significantly and attack speed is really good on skarner; it'll increase your clear significantly (not just by attacking faster but by having your cds up more) and also help with keeping up your Q on ganks.

On January 11 2012 03:06 Treadmill wrote:

I'm gonna be impressed how all the "riot are morons who are ruining their own game" crowd are gonna contort themselves to neither admit they were wrong nor give riot any credit.

On January 11 2012 02:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Did anyone notice that after the jungle changes that the frequency of ganks have actually gone up?

On January 11 2012 02:59 Treadmill wrote:

I remember watching TheOddOne's stream when he was talking about this. Apparently Dan Dinh was the first person to try to do this (not get any levels in e), and then TOO decided to try to copy it and found he really liked it. It's become what I do on jungle skarner and its a lot better imo.

The reasoning is: skarner will always run out of mana before he runs out of health, unless you have blue buff. Skarner's 'e' costs a lot of mana conisdering his smaller mana pool (205 + 40/lvl) and doesn't do much damage compared to its cost, expecially compared to the damage/mana of his 'q'. So his e is a trap. If you use it clearing jungle then, yes, you will be at a higher amount of health but you will have to recall earlier anyways because you will run out of mana (unless you get all the blue buffs but you should be giving them to others).

In contrast extra levels in his 'w' are super useful (I'm assuming levelling q first anyways). You are going ot be using your 'w' to clear camps anyways since the as makes your clear significantly faster (unless you are conserving mana but then no 'e' either). Extra levels in it will give you more shield, and therefore keep you at higher health, without costing any extra mana like adding 'e' would. It also makes you a little faster for ganks, which is nice. Most significantly and attack speed is really good on skarner; it'll increase your clear significantly (not just by attacking faster but by having your cds up more) and also help with keeping up your Q on ganks.

On January 11 2012 03:16 Craton wrote:

Not even a little.