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On January 10 2012 22:19 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 22:08 Senx wrote:On January 10 2012 21:58 clickrush wrote:
Playing almost exclusively ahri atm. Shes very freaking strong imo. Laneing can be tricky but her kit allows her to play super safe or super aggressive depending on the circumstances. She is very unpredictable, kinda like lee sin and kassadin are, because of her insane mobility. I've read that she has no burst damage but I disagree. She certainly doesn't have that huge R spell to punish positioning, but she kinda makes up for it since her Q is actually pretty insane in the spammable burst aoe department and if you land a single good E during a teamfight then it's often hard to not win it. Again not as bursty as other ap-carrys but the combination of sustained damage, semi-burst, a long disable and the unpredictable insane mobility she has really convinced me so far. I don't think shes that strong tbh, she feels like a weaker version of leblanc. She has a cool kit with cute spells and mobility and all that, but just the raw burst dmg together with the mobility makes lb superior. Her ult can be really really really frustrating for anyone who has to land skillshots or for any melee lol. Lebonk is way easier to catch, and ahri doesn't fall off late.
leblanc easy to catch? no way. She has one of the best kits to get away from chases or to catch people, double dash that can be toogled for jukes and a root.. come on now.
Even late game LB still easily snipes the enemy teams squishies in a second or 2. What else do you actually need from an AP carry?
But she's definantly not as EASY or straight forward late game as other AoE champs like brand, karth and annie. Your positioning is far more important to even be able to use her kit properly. The aoe champs are a ton more effective just by derping your buttons in the middle of a clustered team fight. With LB you really need to choose your targets with more care and be in position to snipe and quickly get out to repeat.
She's niche in the way that she relies heavily on winning her lane and ganking more than other champs, she needs kills as shes a really bad farmer, but thats kinda what the weakness of her otherwise strong kit is - farming.
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Her E and R are pretty assassin'ish, while her Q is AoE burst and her W is sustained, reliable AoE that turns into burst against single opponents. I didn't have the chance to face a good ahri yet, since I play her mostly myself and I also think she kinda needs a certain amount of time to figure out. But from like single appareances I'am very sure that a good ahri player is nothing quite laughable. Her lane-aggression is mostly safe, especially after 6, she farms like a boss, she ganks insanely well and fast, while being able to escape the weirdest situations. Her scaling and AoE are good enough in dragged out engagements and her mobility gives her that unpredictable element, which makes positioning a tad harder for your opponents. Also the ability to survive focus fire attempts is pretty insane. Such a wellrounded champion.
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On January 10 2012 22:01 SnK-Arcbound wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 19:20 Alaric wrote:
I'm in rough spot regarding LoL these days. Trying to play more drafts so that I can get myself to play more ranked someday, but always being 4th or 5th pick generally means I'm support or jungler (until I learn to play that free Alistar, that's only 4 champs for me, or non-standard "supports" ala Galio, Panth, Mao). I generally enjoy it, but 5 games in a row with a carry AD spot (my worst role by far) on even days is getting old.
I tried duo-queuing but either the other guy is terrible or for some reason the pick-ups are much, much worse that what I get when going solo (I rant a lot, rarely flat out rage, and I spent a whole evening doing it on pick-up supports once, meh).
When we get in full premades with buddies there are the ones who only play mids, the ones who only play mid/top (so you send them top), the ones playing whatever but not jungling, the ones not playing AD carry... well, same roles, ie jungling for me since we've got a godlike support.
The roles/champs I enjoyed the most appart from Maokai are top and mid, but I haven't been able to play some of them in more than a month (probably even more for Morgana), and whenever I try to get into a blind pick, either I pick w/o locking and have to switch because nobody else will do it, or we end up with 3 AP carries if I instalock before anybody else. :/
Really not quite enjoying myself. It seems like the more rewarding stuff I get is whenever I hop on my smurf and have somebody able to carry on our team, and I lead the team to force objectives and everybody plays together, with teamwork and buffs/dragons/etc. overcoming better comps/individual skill from our opponents. Don't get me wrong, those games feel great (last one was shurelya/aegis/wota support Nunu grabbing every drake for the team and tanking for Ahri/Orianna while Lee Sin carry us till they get farmed, when fighting Ryze/Akali/Talon/Jarvan), it's just... I know that won't last since that smurf's soon to hit 30.
Mid probably went from being my best role to my second worst, with the total absence of practice for months. support and jungle are my two favorite roles that got me so high in elo (while last season I tried soloing a lot and was much lower elo). Also playing champions you're good at and not just things that are considered OP.
I like the roles, I just don't feel like doing 5 Maokai games in a row, and it doesn't matter if the 5 are convincing wins with good scores or stuff like that from me, I like other champs and I want to play them too. Isn't a game about enjoying oneself?
You sound like you're saying "Learn to play those roles instead of OP Morgana". What if she was the first champion I bought, 3 months before she got FotM, one of my favourites, regardless of baddies claims for OPness, and I'd guenuinely enjoy her playstyle and would like to play her some?
I didn't even finish my placement matches, there's nothing to do with Elo there.
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I didn't say leblank was easy to catch, I said leblank was way easier to catch than ahri.
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fuck the new skins are limited? gahhh.
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For those who were wondering about kat, there's a kat mid on saint's stream doing pretty good vs karthus, also hotshot sounds like he's about to cry or something.
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On January 10 2012 23:39 wussleeQ wrote:
fuck the new skins are limited? gahhh.
I'm going to buy the Talon skin and I don't even play him.
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On January 11 2012 00:25 JackDino wrote:
For those who were wondering about kat, there's a kat mid on saint's stream doing pretty good vs karthus, also hotshot sounds like he's about to cry or something.
Satashi: "Oh hey, gogo get Baron!"
Saint: "It's not even in the damn game yet, it's 14 minutes!"
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tbh, I dont get the Ahri & leblanc comparison. It was fine when we were speculating about her kit with her ulti & riot harping about her being an assassin. She's no more an assassin than annie or brand really. Most of her stuff is AOE, except her taunt. In teamfights she's still more about AOE than bursting one important target.
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STRIDER TALON
![[image loading]](http://riot-web-static.s3.amazonaws.com/media/lunar/Talon_silverdragon.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://www.deviantart.com/download/196279014/strider_hiryu_by_genzoman-d38uxuu.jpg)
JET/BRUCE LI/LEE SINS (NO PICS BECAUSE I CANT TELL)
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By the way, is there a reason there isn't a NA TL room? Just going by TL people around my elo, there are a ton of people in the 1400-1600 range and we could easily put some games together. I'm sure people in the other rating brackets would appreciate it as well.
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On January 11 2012 01:07 Sandster wrote:
By the way, is there a reason there isn't a NA TL room? Just going by TL people around my elo, there are a ton of people in the 1400-1600 range and we could easily put some games together. I'm sure people in the other rating brackets would appreciate it as well.
LiquidParty
It's usually lots of AFKs (myself included) though.
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I've been wondering, if you're afk and just random a champ, do you random your last played champ? Had the timer run out twice, both times it picked my last played champ.
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On January 11 2012 01:13 JackDino wrote:
I've been wondering, if you're afk and just random a champ, do you random your last played champ? Had the timer run out twice, both times it picked my last played champ.
There was a time where I would hard random a jungler every game. For some reason I kept getting leesin when less than 10 of my 40 champs were junglers. And I'm pretty sure I was playing jungle soraka before that. So just assume riot's random algorithm is bugged, just like everything else.
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On January 11 2012 01:07 Sandster wrote:
By the way, is there a reason there isn't a NA TL room? Just going by TL people around my elo, there are a ton of people in the 1400-1600 range and we could easily put some games together. I'm sure people in the other rating brackets would appreciate it as well.
LiquidParty isn't active on NA ?
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On January 11 2012 01:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 01:07 Sandster wrote:
By the way, is there a reason there isn't a NA TL room? Just going by TL people around my elo, there are a ton of people in the 1400-1600 range and we could easily put some games together. I'm sure people in the other rating brackets would appreciate it as well. LiquidParty It's usually lots of AFKs (myself included) though.
My bad, I thought that was EU only. Thanks.
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On January 11 2012 00:53 rwrzr wrote:
JET/BRUCE LI/LEE SINS (NO PICS BECAUSE I CANT TELL)
It's called "Dragon Fist Lee Sin"--"Dragon Fist" is actually the name of an old Jackie Chan movie.
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hey who are the 3 fastest junglers in the new jungle
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Viktor changes in lunar patch, only balance bits:
Viktor
-base mana regen per 5 seconds increased to 6.9 from 4.3
-basic attack frame has been improved to be more responsive
-fixed a bug with chaos storm where the opposing viktor could control your storm
-fixed a bug where gravity field's stun effect could not be cleansed
-improved death ray to be more responsive
-fixed a bug where viktor's augments displayed a cost of 1200g instead of 1000g
I haven't played him in a few days, but here's my thoughts. There are really only two noticeable things, manga regen and Death Ray. Mana regen is nice, should make his early game a bit less risky to cast during. However, it also devalues Gravity a bit more, I think Death is probably the better augment right now. When they responsiveness, I hope they mean Death Ray actually hitting the whole breadth of it's range, which it doesn't right now. I guess the attack frame thing is a buff, but I never really had a problem with that.
That said, I don't think it'll make him super desirable in one patch. He's still good, but I almost just feel that other casters (including Swain prominently) do his job better. He's not really a bursty mage outside of his Ult, and he doesn't really have sustained damage outside the fact that Q and E are somewhat short CDs. His biggest use right now is dropping W for team fights and Ulting squishy targets.
Better buffs would be increasing Q's missile speed (or making the shield instant), and/or increasing it's damage. Q is very underwhelming, overall.
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On January 11 2012 01:24 Attakijing wrote:
hey who are the 3 fastest junglers in the new jungle
For speed, Skarner, Phoenixdyr, and probably Shyvana. Shy really lacks ganks, though.
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shyv, udyr, skarner i think
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