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dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
January 10 2012 07:51 GMT
#2821
Nasus after a certain point can also just sit in lane and completely ignore garen.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 10 2012 09:29 GMT
#2822
How is Trundle solo top? I'd think he'd be able to do well against Garen but I haven't tried it yet.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 10 2012 09:46 GMT
#2823
Trundle can just farm top, he doesn't really die if he's smart.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
January 10 2012 10:17 GMT
#2824
Isn't nidalee the best top hands down ? Seems to be eating everybody.

Also Riven is not that good against garen, the silence can just fuck up all her skill circle it's kinda annoying, if you play riven vs garen, don't forget the armor cloth because you're gona have a hard time.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 10:24:43
January 10 2012 10:20 GMT
#2825
On January 10 2012 16:51 dignity wrote:
Nasus after a certain point can also just sit in lane and completely ignore garen.


Can't he do that to pretty much anybody tho?

I'm in rough spot regarding LoL these days. Trying to play more drafts so that I can get myself to play more ranked someday, but always being 4th or 5th pick generally means I'm support or jungler (until I learn to play that free Alistar, that's only 4 champs for me, or non-standard "supports" ala Galio, Panth, Mao). I generally enjoy it, but 5 games in a row with a carry AD spot (my worst role by far) on even days is getting old.
I tried duo-queuing but either the other guy is terrible or for some reason the pick-ups are much, much worse that what I get when going solo (I rant a lot, rarely flat out rage, and I spent a whole evening doing it on pick-up supports once, meh).

When we get in full premades with buddies there are the ones who only play mids, the ones who only play mid/top (so you send them top), the ones playing whatever but not jungling, the ones not playing AD carry... well, same roles, ie jungling for me since we've got a godlike support.
The roles/champs I enjoyed the most appart from Maokai are top and mid, but I haven't been able to play some of them in more than a month (probably even more for Morgana), and whenever I try to get into a blind pick, either I pick w/o locking and have to switch because nobody else will do it, or we end up with 3 AP carries if I instalock before anybody else. :/

Really not quite enjoying myself. It seems like the more rewarding stuff I get is whenever I hop on my smurf and have somebody able to carry on our team, and I lead the team to force objectives and everybody plays together, with teamwork and buffs/dragons/etc. overcoming better comps/individual skill from our opponents. Don't get me wrong, those games feel great (last one was shurelya/aegis/wota support Nunu grabbing every drake for the team and tanking for Ahri/Orianna while Lee Sin carry us till they get farmed, when fighting Ryze/Akali/Talon/Jarvan), it's just... I know that won't last since that smurf's soon to hit 30.
Mid probably went from being my best role to my second worst, with the total absence of practice for months.


Bleh... I guess that could as well go to the QQ thread, even tho it's not talking about a particular game.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
January 10 2012 10:23 GMT
#2826
Teem vs garen is one of the easiest lanes in all of lol. As slinks said, max e first, then w. 1 point in q at 2 or 3. Build wriggles or d blades into phage. Start boots 3. Make sure to get boots 2 before he does, or at the same time.
You literally kite him all game, he has to flash on to you if he wants to connect, and if he does you have q or exhaust depending on summoners.
Seiously, it's a really easy lane. I once raged hard because a teammatelost it, I don't even know how that's possible.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 10 2012 10:28 GMT
#2827
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
January 10 2012 10:42 GMT
#2828
On January 10 2012 19:20 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 16:51 dignity wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Nasus after a certain point can also just sit in lane and completely ignore garen.


Can't he do that to pretty much anybody tho?

I'm in rough spot regarding LoL these days. Trying to play more drafts so that I can get myself to play more ranked someday, but always being 4th or 5th pick generally means I'm support or jungler (until I learn to play that free Alistar, that's only 4 champs for me, or non-standard "supports" ala Galio, Panth, Mao). I generally enjoy it, but 5 games in a row with a carry AD spot (my worst role by far) on even days is getting old.
I tried duo-queuing but either the other guy is terrible or for some reason the pick-ups are much, much worse that what I get when going solo (I rant a lot, rarely flat out rage, and I spent a whole evening doing it on pick-up supports once, meh).

When we get in full premades with buddies there are the ones who only play mids, the ones who only play mid/top (so you send them top), the ones playing whatever but not jungling, the ones not playing AD carry... well, same roles, ie jungling for me since we've got a godlike support.
The roles/champs I enjoyed the most appart from Maokai are top and mid, but I haven't been able to play some of them in more than a month (probably even more for Morgana), and whenever I try to get into a blind pick, either I pick w/o locking and have to switch because nobody else will do it, or we end up with 3 AP carries if I instalock before anybody else. :/

Really not quite enjoying myself. It seems like the more rewarding stuff I get is whenever I hop on my smurf and have somebody able to carry on our team, and I lead the team to force objectives and everybody plays together, with teamwork and buffs/dragons/etc. overcoming better comps/individual skill from our opponents. Don't get me wrong, those games feel great (last one was shurelya/aegis/wota support Nunu grabbing every drake for the team and tanking for Ahri/Orianna while Lee Sin carry us till they get farmed, when fighting Ryze/Akali/Talon/Jarvan), it's just... I know that won't last since that smurf's soon to hit 30.
Mid probably went from being my best role to my second worst, with the total absence of practice for months.


Bleh... I guess that could as well go to the QQ thread, even tho it's not talking about a particular game.


Try to Duo when you can with a friend. If your friend has a higher pick, he can claim top or mid for you and you swap champs a little. Gives you more playtime mid / top / wherever. Or just say from the start mid plz or top plz. Dont be a d*ck, ask politely and you'll get the spot more often then not.
KCCO!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 10 2012 10:55 GMT
#2829
I had my template sentence whenever I entered draft, going "I'd like to play top or mid, but as last pick I'll get whatever role the team needs". Got insulted a few times, handed the position a bit more, but in the vast majority I was just ignored.
I just hope I'll find a duo-buddy with whom one of us doesn't act as retard magnet, yep. Pretty much all I can do I guess, try and pray.

To stop derailing with my whining, which kind of champs can Singed be expected to do well against nowadays? It looks like most bruisers have enough sustain to be able to attack him and live through his poison, on top of outscaling him, plus there are the ones that are effective from the first levels (as opposed to, say, Irelia) and can abuse him before he gets his cata. Since he's got "negative" range (going behind minions to be sure to poison them all) and inherently pushes if he tries to not just last hit, he seems he's really prone to ganks or zoning when he's behind, except if he accepts to sacrifice his tower.
That, or I was doing bullshit when I could play him on a regular basis and now I've got to learn how to play him at my new level.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
January 10 2012 11:26 GMT
#2830
On January 10 2012 19:55 Alaric wrote:
I had my template sentence whenever I entered draft, going "I'd like to play top or mid, but as last pick I'll get whatever role the team needs". Got insulted a few times, handed the position a bit more, but in the vast majority I was just ignored.
I just hope I'll find a duo-buddy with whom one of us doesn't act as retard magnet, yep. Pretty much all I can do I guess, try and pray.

To stop derailing with my whining, which kind of champs can Singed be expected to do well against nowadays? It looks like most bruisers have enough sustain to be able to attack him and live through his poison, on top of outscaling him, plus there are the ones that are effective from the first levels (as opposed to, say, Irelia) and can abuse him before he gets his cata. Since he's got "negative" range (going behind minions to be sure to poison them all) and inherently pushes if he tries to not just last hit, he seems he's really prone to ganks or zoning when he's behind, except if he accepts to sacrifice his tower.
That, or I was doing bullshit when I could play him on a regular basis and now I've got to learn how to play him at my new level.



That's why I pretty much never solo queue. cba with duo queue as well usually, which puts ranked out of the question. If you want you can add me (summoner name: vønc3). We usually play with a couple of people on mumble with highly varying lineups. I do mainly play ap mids, but I can (and will ) play every position on occasion.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
January 10 2012 11:36 GMT
#2831
On January 10 2012 14:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hi everyone, I hope all of you are playing nice. :3

Reading over the past few pages I want to address rizzla's concern really quickly.

The current setup that we have in our humble LoL subforum happens to be the best layout I personally have in mind for an area that is simply one subforum large. There is whispers of possibly expanding our current subforum into three (we obviously have the traffic and content to warrant it). If that does happen, things could be split into small pieces, more specifically, this General Discussion thread.

As Chiharu Harukaze (is that you Moon???) we do have a system setup. Without overflowing the subforum with numerous, minor content thread, we compile it into a megathread. It may not be very efficient but it is effective. Granted, I totally understand where you're coming from. These GD megathreads are a pain to sift through but it's due to our active community that the GDs generate so many posts. But if you enjoy what our subforum has to offer, reading 10+ pages of GD every morning ends up becoming a normal practice. I personally do it out of habit now and I'm fairly sure many of our users do the same.

That being said!
If any TL.netter have ideas on how to make our home easier to navigate or a better layout for discussion, I am always willing to listen. I design and moderate this subforum actively in what I think is most efficient, with what we are given.


The GD is only that big because people don't make the effort to create OPs that are threadworthy . Many of the major discussions in the GD could be started with a well structured OP that gives all the current info and some thoughts to start it's own discussion.

so I think we have this mess because were all too lazy and not because of the format
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 10 2012 12:09 GMT
#2832
New skins are out btw

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/lunar-revel-new-holiday-new-skins
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
January 10 2012 12:20 GMT
#2833
On January 10 2012 21:09 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
New skins are out btw

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/lunar-revel-new-holiday-new-skins


makes me sad, I just bought a Lee Sin skin and now this epic one has been released.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 12:43:02
January 10 2012 12:38 GMT
#2834
double WOTA heimerdinger with zhonyas is so hilarious.
Also singed probably the best stress-buster. Was pissed after repeated losses. Just picked singed - always push, never die, toss people, have fun.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
January 10 2012 12:58 GMT
#2835
Playing almost exclusively ahri atm. Shes very freaking strong imo. Laneing can be tricky but her kit allows her to play super safe or super aggressive depending on the circumstances. She is very unpredictable, kinda like lee sin and kassadin are, because of her insane mobility. I've read that she has no burst damage but I disagree. She certainly doesn't have that huge R spell to punish positioning, but she kinda makes up for it since her Q is actually pretty insane in the spammable burst aoe department and if you land a single good E during a teamfight then it's often hard to not win it. Again not as bursty as other ap-carrys but the combination of sustained damage, semi-burst, a long disable and the unpredictable insane mobility she has really convinced me so far.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
January 10 2012 13:01 GMT
#2836
On January 10 2012 19:20 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 16:51 dignity wrote:
Nasus after a certain point can also just sit in lane and completely ignore garen.


Can't he do that to pretty much anybody tho?

I'm in rough spot regarding LoL these days. Trying to play more drafts so that I can get myself to play more ranked someday, but always being 4th or 5th pick generally means I'm support or jungler (until I learn to play that free Alistar, that's only 4 champs for me, or non-standard "supports" ala Galio, Panth, Mao). I generally enjoy it, but 5 games in a row with a carry AD spot (my worst role by far) on even days is getting old.
I tried duo-queuing but either the other guy is terrible or for some reason the pick-ups are much, much worse that what I get when going solo (I rant a lot, rarely flat out rage, and I spent a whole evening doing it on pick-up supports once, meh).

When we get in full premades with buddies there are the ones who only play mids, the ones who only play mid/top (so you send them top), the ones playing whatever but not jungling, the ones not playing AD carry... well, same roles, ie jungling for me since we've got a godlike support.
The roles/champs I enjoyed the most appart from Maokai are top and mid, but I haven't been able to play some of them in more than a month (probably even more for Morgana), and whenever I try to get into a blind pick, either I pick w/o locking and have to switch because nobody else will do it, or we end up with 3 AP carries if I instalock before anybody else. :/

Really not quite enjoying myself. It seems like the more rewarding stuff I get is whenever I hop on my smurf and have somebody able to carry on our team, and I lead the team to force objectives and everybody plays together, with teamwork and buffs/dragons/etc. overcoming better comps/individual skill from our opponents. Don't get me wrong, those games feel great (last one was shurelya/aegis/wota support Nunu grabbing every drake for the team and tanking for Ahri/Orianna while Lee Sin carry us till they get farmed, when fighting Ryze/Akali/Talon/Jarvan), it's just... I know that won't last since that smurf's soon to hit 30.
Mid probably went from being my best role to my second worst, with the total absence of practice for months.


Bleh... I guess that could as well go to the QQ thread, even tho it's not talking about a particular game.

support and jungle are my two favorite roles that got me so high in elo (while last season I tried soloing a lot and was much lower elo). Also playing champions you're good at and not just things that are considered OP.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
January 10 2012 13:08 GMT
#2837
On January 10 2012 21:58 clickrush wrote:
Playing almost exclusively ahri atm. Shes very freaking strong imo. Laneing can be tricky but her kit allows her to play super safe or super aggressive depending on the circumstances. She is very unpredictable, kinda like lee sin and kassadin are, because of her insane mobility. I've read that she has no burst damage but I disagree. She certainly doesn't have that huge R spell to punish positioning, but she kinda makes up for it since her Q is actually pretty insane in the spammable burst aoe department and if you land a single good E during a teamfight then it's often hard to not win it. Again not as bursty as other ap-carrys but the combination of sustained damage, semi-burst, a long disable and the unpredictable insane mobility she has really convinced me so far.


I don't think shes that strong tbh, she feels like a weaker version of leblanc.
She has a cool kit with cute spells and mobility and all that, but just the raw burst dmg together with the mobility makes lb superior.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 10 2012 13:19 GMT
#2838
On January 10 2012 22:08 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 21:58 clickrush wrote:
Playing almost exclusively ahri atm. Shes very freaking strong imo. Laneing can be tricky but her kit allows her to play super safe or super aggressive depending on the circumstances. She is very unpredictable, kinda like lee sin and kassadin are, because of her insane mobility. I've read that she has no burst damage but I disagree. She certainly doesn't have that huge R spell to punish positioning, but she kinda makes up for it since her Q is actually pretty insane in the spammable burst aoe department and if you land a single good E during a teamfight then it's often hard to not win it. Again not as bursty as other ap-carrys but the combination of sustained damage, semi-burst, a long disable and the unpredictable insane mobility she has really convinced me so far.


I don't think shes that strong tbh, she feels like a weaker version of leblanc.
She has a cool kit with cute spells and mobility and all that, but just the raw burst dmg together with the mobility makes lb superior.

Her ult can be really really really frustrating for anyone who has to land skillshots or for any melee lol. Lebonk is way easier to catch, and ahri doesn't fall off late.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 10 2012 13:21 GMT
#2839
If you seperate the AP's into the big AoE ones and the assasin ones then Ahri's the inbetweeny. She's not as good an assasin as LB is, but she doesnt quite do the big blow-up team damage Annie or Brand do. I'm usually not particularly scared of her, if you get a good feel for her skillshots she's pretty holdable.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 10 2012 13:27 GMT
#2840
On the contrary I feel that Ahri is a more useful version of Leblanc/Kassadin. Her kill potential isn't that much weaker than them (landing a Charm almost guarantees a kill in lane), and her lategame presence is so much more powerful. The aforementioned Charm can be game-winning in teamfights and she doesn't need to jump directly on her target to kill them, unlike Leblanc and Kassadin.
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