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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
January 09 2012 06:16 GMT
#2601
Hotshot starting a 1v1 vs ragingflamingo. No idea what's this is about.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
January 09 2012 06:17 GMT
#2602
On January 09 2012 15:13 BlackMagister wrote:
Why you dive Hotshot at such low lvls. Then go back in after the dive failed?

well we were sorta fucking around. i've been griefing my jungler about him not ganking for me so he finally folded and said he'd give me a lvl 2 gank. it ended tragically haha. as for going back in i wanted the cs but forgot the flag was there lol. #1 jarvan.
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HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
January 09 2012 06:21 GMT
#2603
On January 09 2012 15:16 BlackMagister wrote:
Hotshot starting a 1v1 vs ragingflamingo. No idea what's this is about.

He's some 1100 guy from general discussion forum.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
January 09 2012 06:39 GMT
#2604
I guess he has good laning mechanics but very poor game sense. 1100 is still in the stomp territory for the guys hes beating.
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
January 09 2012 06:53 GMT
#2605
On January 09 2012 15:39 GranDim wrote:
I guess he has good laning mechanics but very poor game sense. 1100 is still in the stomp territory for the guys hes beating.


His setup is pretty much 100% built to win no matter early game but he drops off so hard late game, he has MPen reds and flat AP for the rest 21/6/3 using MPots for mana and rushing like double blasting wand and stuff.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 09 2012 06:58 GMT
#2606
He's trying to prove that early game Annie is really strong? The fuck...?

That's like someone challenging people to 50 minute games and he only plays Nasus to prove that late game Nasus is strong.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
January 09 2012 07:04 GMT
#2607
On January 09 2012 15:58 overt wrote:
He's trying to prove that early game Annie is really strong? The fuck...?

That's like someone challenging people to 50 minute games and he only plays Nasus to prove that late game Nasus is strong.


30 minutes norush please, I will show you how strong quad fast expand is!
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
January 09 2012 07:20 GMT
#2608
Ya. Not a relevant display at all. Don't know why he's calling Annie imba and asking for nerfs and doing this...

Obviously the reason he is stuck so low is his lack of understanding that pushing a lane super hard right from the start doesn't equal wins. I cant believe more / smarter people arent beating him.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 09 2012 07:20 GMT
#2609
I like how two of his opponents were playing Soraka.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
January 09 2012 07:29 GMT
#2610
On January 09 2012 15:53 Skithiryx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 15:39 GranDim wrote:
I guess he has good laning mechanics but very poor game sense. 1100 is still in the stomp territory for the guys hes beating.


His setup is pretty much 100% built to win no matter early game but he drops off so hard late game, he has MPen reds and flat AP for the rest 21/6/3 using MPots for mana and rushing like double blasting wand and stuff.



You'd think someone with 1800 elo would realize that and act accordingly, no? First thing I do when I get to lane is click on my opponent to take a look at his stats and get an idea of what he is running.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 07:45:43
January 09 2012 07:41 GMT
#2611
lol, someone should just pick heal/ignite poppy and run a mr blue / hp regen seal/ hp regen quint page on him then get like philostone + 2 regrowths.

he'll find out that the more damage he builds the less damage he does!

EDIT: Also, despite the fact that he won 1v1 against several 1800+ players, I still think he belongs at 1100. Like, how do you miss last hits with annie lmfao.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 09 2012 07:51 GMT
#2612
lee sin mid new meta. first 2 games with it 12-1 and 20-1 rofl.
Brees on in
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
January 09 2012 08:01 GMT
#2613
On January 09 2012 16:51 Brees wrote:
lee sin mid new meta. first 2 games with it 12-1 and 20-1 rofl.

used to do this when his ratios were 1.0 on Q and went full ad ignite exhaust for some laughs. it was sooo much damage lol.
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dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 08:30:52
January 09 2012 08:22 GMT
#2614
Is it just me or is there currently just too many execute type skills in this game?

Lee sin Q
Volibear W
Garen R
Nidalee cougar Q
Fizz W (poison)
Riven R

We pretty much doubled in these types of skills in less than 6 months.
Ig
Profile Joined January 2011
United States417 Posts
January 09 2012 08:27 GMT
#2615
On January 09 2012 15:53 Skithiryx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 15:39 GranDim wrote:
I guess he has good laning mechanics but very poor game sense. 1100 is still in the stomp territory for the guys hes beating.


His setup is pretty much 100% built to win no matter early game but he drops off so hard late game, he has MPen reds and flat AP for the rest 21/6/3 using MPots for mana and rushing like double blasting wand and stuff.

I think someone should challenge him while changing the rules to "standard" builds and openings only, see how he fares then. His little experiment doesn't prove jack, and I'm sure some of the higher elo players who lost to him were semi-trolling.
E-warrior of the China brigade, 50 cent party member.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
January 09 2012 08:29 GMT
#2616
On January 09 2012 17:22 dignity wrote:
Is it just me or is there currently just too many execute type skills in this game?

Lee sin Q
Poppy Q
Volibear W
Garen R
Nidalee cougar Q
Fizz W (poison)
Riven R

We pretty much doubled in these types of skills in less than 6 months.


Er, not sure why you're calling Poppy's Q an execute?
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
January 09 2012 08:30 GMT
#2617
Ugh I always think that for some reason. My bad, changing it.

Still, that means we tripled the amount of execute skills since the release of lee sin.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 08:48:18
January 09 2012 08:47 GMT
#2618
Winning your lane isn't even half the game. 1v1 isn't even a viable format because a jungler exists on every team in every game.

Edit: also loci got a new web cam.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 09 2012 09:04 GMT
#2619
On January 09 2012 10:35 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 07:22 Promises wrote:
I think gamewise I'm roughly 25-4 with him, with an average score of 15-5-10 or something similar. He's far from a horrible champ and I fail to see how he'd be any easyer to gank then say Malzahar/Annie/Brand. Its basically just Twitch and Rammus I have trouble with =)

Brand has a stun on demand, Annie is retarted if she pushes up to the middle without having her stun ready, Malz is a horrible example because he pushes all day without actually being somewhere near the creeps. Also, not trying to be a dick, but your scores say nothing about the objective strength of a champ.


I agree that scores don't mean the champ is good or bad, but they do indicate some potential. If Rammus rolls in in a coordinated gank (ie where the enemy mid is also comming forward) then there's a good chance brand wont get the stun before the taunt due to a) being to slow b) having used (part of) the stuncombo on the enemy mid. Annie can blow her's ofcourse but that still doesnt guarantee a get-away. I've landed Gravity Field stuns and due to some combo from the enemy mid still got ganked. And my point is I don't need to be at the middle to get ganked by Rammus (or Twitch), which is what makes them so ridiculous imo. The other Junglers I don't have nearly as much problems with, but Rammus' increasingly fast entry into the lane, the incredibly long taunt and the fact that that damages you too just makes his ganks insane.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 09:17:18
January 09 2012 09:13 GMT
#2620
On January 09 2012 10:35 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 07:22 Promises wrote:
I think gamewise I'm roughly 25-4 with him, with an average score of 15-5-10 or something similar. He's far from a horrible champ and I fail to see how he'd be any easyer to gank then say Malzahar/Annie/Brand. Its basically just Twitch and Rammus I have trouble with =)

Brand has a stun on demand, Annie is retarted if she pushes up to the middle without having her stun ready, Malz is a horrible example because he pushes all day without actually being somewhere near the creeps. Also, not trying to be a dick, but your scores say nothing about the objective strength of a champ.

Annie has stun up, annie runs up at enemy champion, Q W, boom enemy jungler is in her lane, she's retarded for harassing right.
Viktor has to press 1 button to get a big aoe stun off, brand has to use and the Q is a bit harder to aim than the W or the viktor stun. I don't see how viktor is an easier gank than brand, I do agree that scores say nothing but someone who ganks a bad viktor doesn't say anything either.
Pant mid is the easiest gank in the game most likely, must be the worst champ in the game right, rather have eve mid herpaderp.
On January 09 2012 11:04 Hakker wrote:
Has anyone ever done the math to determine if energy runes are any good? i have 40k ip right now and nothing to spend it on, and I play kennen occasionally.

Salce used to run energy/lvl on kennen, not sure what he runs now. I think loci used them on shen once but it was so long ago since I've seen that replay I'm not really sure.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
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