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AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 09:34:15
January 09 2012 09:30 GMT
#2621
Why do people still do q > w for nidalee? Q doesn't deal damage and eats up mana if you don't build AP. Unlike AP Nid, AD Nid is a split pusher rather than a siege monster. Her traps also helps more during the laning phase when you wanna control your river and brush.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
January 09 2012 09:35 GMT
#2622
Good thing hotshot won. I'd be a bit worried...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 09 2012 09:57 GMT
#2623
[image loading]WotA Meta, are we doing this right?
liftlift > tsm
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
January 09 2012 09:59 GMT
#2624
If these 1800 players can't win a 1100 player heads up, with all their supposed knowledge and mechanics, he absolutely proved the rating system is a complete joke. That's like high masters vs silver league in sc... hello?
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
January 09 2012 10:02 GMT
#2625
How did SV win that game. I don't understand this game anymore.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 09 2012 10:10 GMT
#2626
On January 09 2012 18:59 Kickboxer wrote:
If these 1800 players can't win a 1100 player heads up, with all their supposed knowledge and mechanics, he absolutely proved the rating system is a complete joke. That's like high masters vs silver league in sc... hello?


He playes a 1v1 lane with "cheesy" runes and masteries aimed at simply beating someone in a purely 1v1 situation lane.

In a real game, there'd be this thing called jungler who woulda become legendary on his expense. That's why these 1v1s really don't count for shit, all these fancy harass tacs and stuff won't work if there's a threat of a jungler to interfere. Herpa derp level 1 chase past mid river to drop a Q and auto on the enemy and the shaco jungler is suddenly sitting on your ass with red buff and oops what then?
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 10:34:15
January 09 2012 10:31 GMT
#2627
On January 09 2012 19:10 daemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 18:59 Kickboxer wrote:
If these 1800 players can't win a 1100 player heads up, with all their supposed knowledge and mechanics, he absolutely proved the rating system is a complete joke. That's like high masters vs silver league in sc... hello?


He playes a 1v1 lane with "cheesy" runes and masteries aimed at simply beating someone in a purely 1v1 situation lane.

In a real game, there'd be this thing called jungler who woulda become legendary on his expense. That's why these 1v1s really don't count for shit, all these fancy harass tacs and stuff won't work if there's a threat of a jungler to interfere. Herpa derp level 1 chase past mid river to drop a Q and auto on the enemy and the shaco jungler is suddenly sitting on your ass with red buff and oops what then?

If you're an 1800 player against an 1100 player you should know the matchup, possible cheese and counterplays, you should have far more experience at 1800, it's entirely possible however that you'd never encountered said champ/setup before. And you can't just figure it out on the go because once you get behind, you're behind.
The only thing it proves is not that the rating system is a joke, it's that there is a lot more to rating other than mechanics, and high elo players don't have the best knowledge.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 09 2012 10:46 GMT
#2628
Loci streaming some Panth VS HSGG Trynda. He got first blooded by SV's mumu :'(
The legend of Darien lives on
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
January 09 2012 10:50 GMT
#2629
SV vs HotShotGG the battle

'You need to start listening to me'

'Shut up, i need you to come now, not after golems, now'

'Just listen!'

This is good stuff
KCCO!
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 09 2012 10:59 GMT
#2630
rofl Loci's real man Panth causing unrest in the CLG ranks
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 09 2012 11:00 GMT
#2631
I actually agree with Hotshot in this one ^^ But the main thing that seems incredibly weird to me is SV saying "I'm not comming when you ask because I don't trust your calls"... that sort of thing can't be in a functioning team can it?
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#2632
The hotshot saint conversation is pretty hilarious.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
January 09 2012 11:04 GMT
#2633
It is, specially since hotshot is trying all seriousmode and sv is just playing and trying to have a good time.
KCCO!
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 09 2012 11:06 GMT
#2634
Loci vs Hotshot + Saint, round 2!
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#2635
Malphite vs Rumble? Isn't it a bad matchup for Malph?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
January 09 2012 11:17 GMT
#2636
Maximum energy is better if you can get enough to do something (like an extra shuriken worth on top of your maximum), energy regen doesn't give enough to be more useful than AP runes.

Also hotshot is correct with his thinking, but he's still wrong because the jungler isn't an on call gank. If hotshot says something like, I'm probably going to get dived here, and the jungler wants to keep farming, that's the junglers fault for not going for an easy tower diving kill.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 11:33:42
January 09 2012 11:32 GMT
#2637
On January 09 2012 17:29 Ryalnos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 17:22 dignity wrote:
Is it just me or is there currently just too many execute type skills in this game?

Lee sin Q
Poppy Q
Volibear W
Garen R
Nidalee cougar Q
Fizz W (poison)
Riven R

We pretty much doubled in these types of skills in less than 6 months.


Er, not sure why you're calling Poppy's Q an execute?


because it always 1 shots people? :D

and isnt rivens R based on the range away not the health?

On January 09 2012 20:17 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Maximum energy is better if you can get enough to do something (like an extra shuriken worth on top of your maximum), energy regen doesn't give enough to be more useful than AP runes.

Also hotshot is correct with his thinking, but he's still wrong because the jungler isn't an on call gank. If hotshot says something like, I'm probably going to get dived here, and the jungler wants to keep farming, that's the junglers fault for not going for an easy tower diving kill.



thats not entirely true, even 1 more max energy allows you to use a spell sooner from being out of energy. if your combo takes you do 24 energy and u need 30 for a skill, having 1 more starting energy will take you to 25 instead, and allow you to attack again sooner
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 09 2012 11:38 GMT
#2638
On January 09 2012 20:32 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 17:29 Ryalnos wrote:
On January 09 2012 17:22 dignity wrote:
Is it just me or is there currently just too many execute type skills in this game?

Lee sin Q
Poppy Q
Volibear W
Garen R
Nidalee cougar Q
Fizz W (poison)
Riven R

We pretty much doubled in these types of skills in less than 6 months.


Er, not sure why you're calling Poppy's Q an execute?


because it always 1 shots people? :D

and isnt rivens R based on the range away not the health?

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 20:17 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Maximum energy is better if you can get enough to do something (like an extra shuriken worth on top of your maximum), energy regen doesn't give enough to be more useful than AP runes.

Also hotshot is correct with his thinking, but he's still wrong because the jungler isn't an on call gank. If hotshot says something like, I'm probably going to get dived here, and the jungler wants to keep farming, that's the junglers fault for not going for an easy tower diving kill.



thats not entirely true, even 1 more max energy allows you to use a spell sooner from being out of energy. if your combo takes you do 24 energy and u need 30 for a skill, having 1 more starting energy will take you to 25 instead, and allow you to attack again sooner

Riven's R works on missing health.

Concerning runes, energy regen is great if you get to poke a little before an actual teamfight starts. I like them a lot better than anything for yellows.
currently rooting for myself.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 11:47:58
January 09 2012 11:40 GMT
#2639
On January 09 2012 20:17 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Maximum energy is better if you can get enough to do something (like an extra shuriken worth on top of your maximum), energy regen doesn't give enough to be more useful than AP runes.

Max level shuriken is 45 energy, and if you get all +energy runes and the energy mastery you can just about afford an extra one. I dunno, doesn't really seem worth it.

No one gets AP yellows so you're really choosing between energy regen yellows and armor yellows. If I'm going mid I'd probably take the regen.

edit: also +max energy goes in the blue and quint slot which is pretty inconvenient while regen goes in the yellow slot
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
January 09 2012 12:18 GMT
#2640
[image loading]

My support GP on my 2nd account xD.
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