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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 09 2012 01:44 GMT
#2561
TSM scrimming EDG (MakNooN) atm.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 01:47:18
January 09 2012 01:45 GMT
#2562
Maokai #1 tree, beats rock (but not when rock goes sololane, he gets more fed, dat bastard ).
I don't know if you could call him original tho, what with TOO making him more and more well known. But he's got some tricks with his W (and saplings to give him vision), free wards, good clear times, insane ganks, huge utility and peeling, he allows you to troll Karthus, Cait, Zilean, etc. with his ult, and is all around badass standing in the middle of the enemy team rooting Tryndamere and slowing Nasus, all while never dying and protecting his carry from half a screen away.

Edit:
On January 09 2012 10:44 NeoIllusions wrote:
TSM scrimming EDG (MakNooN) atm.


With TOO jungling Jarman, since people's been quoting him last page.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
January 09 2012 02:04 GMT
#2563
Has anyone ever done the math to determine if energy runes are any good? i have 40k ip right now and nothing to spend it on, and I play kennen occasionally.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 02:08:32
January 09 2012 02:08 GMT
#2564
On January 09 2012 11:04 Hakker wrote:
Has anyone ever done the math to determine if energy runes are any good? i have 40k ip right now and nothing to spend it on, and I play kennen occasionally.

Energy Regen/lvl on yellows is decent, rest is meh.
Edit: decent as in best in slot yellows for Kennen in my opinion.
currently rooting for myself.
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 02:09:56
January 09 2012 02:08 GMT
#2565
On January 09 2012 10:40 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 10:36 Bladeorade wrote:
On January 09 2012 10:33 koreasilver wrote:
On January 09 2012 09:53 Cloud9157 wrote:
On January 09 2012 09:47 sob3k wrote:
Hey I'm just getting into jungling, I have pretty good game sense so I do well.

I want to pick up a decent hero for jungle, but not a boring one, someone preferably a bit rare to see, I can deal with not being tier 1. I don't really want to play lee because everyone does, skarner is boring, nocturne is too common too.

Basically whats a cool char that CAN jungle ok, I like weird stuff.


Lee Skarner and Udyr are probably the top 3 junglers in the game atm.

If you want someone not jungled that often, try Trundle. Decent clear time thanks to Contaminate and he has pretty strong ganks.

Malphite can jungle, but his ganks are not strong until lvl 6. Pretty mediocre prior to that.

Then theres jungle Trynd. Trynd is pretty stupid atm. Never jungled him, but I think the only thing that doesn't make him top tier is his clear time. Not too sure on that though.

Really? I've been playing Maokai all this week and I think his pre-lvl 6 ganks are infinitely stronger than Skarner and I think he's a stronger ganker than Udyr as well pretty consistently.

of course his pre 6 ganks are better, his ganking tool is not his ult.

Once skarner hits 6 if he comes to gank your lane and has flash chances are you dead

I know, that's what I mean. His ganks definitely are not weak before lvl 6 like he's saying.

Derp he said malphite xD
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 02:16:02
January 09 2012 02:10 GMT
#2566
Well TSM lost that one. I don't get why they focused Swain on that last fight tho (edit: the one at baron), they hadn't the nuking power to prevent his ult from kicking in and we hurting them less than Nid/Vayne anyway.

Also, 1000th post and vulture. I'm planting more saplings than spider mines these days tho.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 09 2012 02:17 GMT
#2567
On January 09 2012 11:08 Bladeorade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 10:40 koreasilver wrote:
On January 09 2012 10:36 Bladeorade wrote:
On January 09 2012 10:33 koreasilver wrote:
On January 09 2012 09:53 Cloud9157 wrote:
On January 09 2012 09:47 sob3k wrote:
Hey I'm just getting into jungling, I have pretty good game sense so I do well.

I want to pick up a decent hero for jungle, but not a boring one, someone preferably a bit rare to see, I can deal with not being tier 1. I don't really want to play lee because everyone does, skarner is boring, nocturne is too common too.

Basically whats a cool char that CAN jungle ok, I like weird stuff.


Lee Skarner and Udyr are probably the top 3 junglers in the game atm.

If you want someone not jungled that often, try Trundle. Decent clear time thanks to Contaminate and he has pretty strong ganks.

Malphite can jungle, but his ganks are not strong until lvl 6. Pretty mediocre prior to that.

Then theres jungle Trynd. Trynd is pretty stupid atm. Never jungled him, but I think the only thing that doesn't make him top tier is his clear time. Not too sure on that though.

Really? I've been playing Maokai all this week and I think his pre-lvl 6 ganks are infinitely stronger than Skarner and I think he's a stronger ganker than Udyr as well pretty consistently.

of course his pre 6 ganks are better, his ganking tool is not his ult.

Once skarner hits 6 if he comes to gank your lane and has flash chances are you dead

I know, that's what I mean. His ganks definitely are not weak before lvl 6 like he's saying.

Derp he said malphite xD

Oh god. I'm so retarded.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 09 2012 02:23 GMT
#2568
I must be playing Kennen wrong in terms of runes.

I run mage pen reds, armor yellows (what people question me over) MR glyphs and AP Quints. I don't get why energy regen is really needed. You never run out of energy unless you have to blow your ghost without running into an enemy. Maxed Q will slowly deplete energy if you constantly use it, but I've found that it doesn't hurt your energy significantly.

In short, I love making Kennen even tankier.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 09 2012 02:32 GMT
#2569
On January 09 2012 11:23 Cloud9157 wrote:
I must be playing Kennen wrong in terms of runes.

I run mage pen reds, armor yellows (what people question me over) MR glyphs and AP Quints. I don't get why energy regen is really needed. You never run out of energy unless you have to blow your ghost without running into an enemy. Maxed Q will slowly deplete energy if you constantly use it, but I've found that it doesn't hurt your energy significantly.

In short, I love making Kennen even tankier.

it sounds like you press R and run at them :S
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
January 09 2012 02:33 GMT
#2570
What is this jungle tf some of you keep teasing with? Post a build plz.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 09 2012 02:38 GMT
#2571
On January 09 2012 11:32 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 11:23 Cloud9157 wrote:
I must be playing Kennen wrong in terms of runes.

I run mage pen reds, armor yellows (what people question me over) MR glyphs and AP Quints. I don't get why energy regen is really needed. You never run out of energy unless you have to blow your ghost without running into an enemy. Maxed Q will slowly deplete energy if you constantly use it, but I've found that it doesn't hurt your energy significantly.

In short, I love making Kennen even tankier.

it sounds like you press R and run at them :S



If I'm the only form of initiating sure.

Otherwise someone else should do it for me (till Zhonya's anyway).
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
pikaaarrr :3
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States593 Posts
January 09 2012 02:41 GMT
#2572
One question about matchmaking:

I very recently picked up LoL (around finals week, beginning of Dec but didn't play much until ~Dec 17th). Around level 15 or so atm. I have a pretty good w/l ratio when it comes to regular normal games, but when I play with my friends, similar or slightly lower level than me, we lose a LOT more. My friend usually does alright playing solo as well. Are we just bad when we play with each other, or is there something that makes the MM system pair us with harder opponents?
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
January 09 2012 02:46 GMT
#2573
good and yangfushang's team about to be in finals of go4lol come watch~
http://www.twitch.tv/national_esl1#
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
January 09 2012 02:48 GMT
#2574
On January 09 2012 11:41 pikaaarrr :3 wrote:
One question about matchmaking:

I very recently picked up LoL (around finals week, beginning of Dec but didn't play much until ~Dec 17th). Around level 15 or so atm. I have a pretty good w/l ratio when it comes to regular normal games, but when I play with my friends, similar or slightly lower level than me, we lose a LOT more. My friend usually does alright playing solo as well. Are we just bad when we play with each other, or is there something that makes the MM system pair us with harder opponents?


Probably just the fact that you're getting matched up with other (mostly) premade teams, who may have smurfs or just better teamwork.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 09 2012 03:04 GMT
#2575
On January 09 2012 11:33 Cloud wrote:
What is this jungle tf some of you keep teasing with? Post a build plz.

By some of you mean me, cuz I'm 99% sure no one else has ever tried it.

I run a shaco like runepage- 10 armor pen on red, the rest ad, ad quints, armor yellows, aspeed blues. Cloth 5, (yet to test boots)

Wild card at 1, then alternate between wild card and e. Wolves- blue standard path, using red card for the aoe deeps. Then I go wriggles, ghostblade, then it depends. If you are stupid fed you can go for standard bf items, or you can go on hit with a sotd and wits.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 09 2012 03:23 GMT
#2576
On January 09 2012 12:04 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 11:33 Cloud wrote:
What is this jungle tf some of you keep teasing with? Post a build plz.

By some of you mean me, cuz I'm 99% sure no one else has ever tried it.

I run a shaco like runepage- 10 armor pen on red, the rest ad, ad quints, armor yellows, aspeed blues. Cloth 5, (yet to test boots)

Wild card at 1, then alternate between wild card and e. Wolves- blue standard path, using red card for the aoe deeps. Then I go wriggles, ghostblade, then it depends. If you are stupid fed you can go for standard bf items, or you can go on hit with a sotd and wits.


One of the Chinese teams has run it and I did jungle TF back before his ult nerf in old jungle. He was even stronger then.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
January 09 2012 03:24 GMT
#2577
ty
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Bona Fide
Profile Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
January 09 2012 03:32 GMT
#2578
It was comforting to see Regi run into the same issues with LB that I've been having after playing her this past week.

1. She doesn't have constant damage throughput like a Cassio or Karthus.

2. All her stuff is single target, more or less.

If you saw, he spent a lot of time waiting or hovering around the perimeter because either his spells were on CD or he had to wait for a good target. The worst thing I've experienced on LB is where you go in, do your full combo, and they walk away. You're 100% useless now, and they're still alive.

But, the upside is that if a squishy exposes themselves, they die in like half a second.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 09 2012 03:33 GMT
#2579
Kerp does jungle TF sometimes actually and he's pretty good with him o_o His ganks are also quite strong and he jungles pretty fast after a while.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
January 09 2012 03:35 GMT
#2580
On January 09 2012 10:11 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 09:56 FuzzyLord wrote:
On January 09 2012 09:47 sob3k wrote:
Hey I'm just getting into jungling, I have pretty good game sense so I do well.

I want to pick up a decent hero for jungle, but not a boring one, someone preferably a bit rare to see, I can deal with not being tier 1. I don't really want to play lee because everyone does, skarner is boring, nocturne is too common too.

Basically whats a cool char that CAN jungle ok, I like weird stuff.



Jungle AD Janna. Your shield gives you a stupid amount of bonus AD, and you have so much utility that ganks are effective. AND you have bonus movement speed.


Janna is shitty as fuck in the jungle. Can't clear camps fast ever.

Karthus/Karma; Karthus gank with wall, Karma gank with mantra-w; both clear pretty fast


What would be the setup for Karma jungle?
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