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On January 09 2012 09:10 Alaric wrote:
I hate dem 4-men premades. Cool stuff guys, you've got your vocal chat and all, but that should't distract you from, you know, speaking, sometimes. Communicating via keyboard. Not forget the fact that there's 5 people on the team. Even during champ select. Damn.
I had this happen once. Was with 3 other friends and our mid called mia but forgot to type to top.
Long story short, top got ganked by mid. Happens sometimes unfortunately.
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Wasn't that bad in the end, they didn't talk much at the beginning and their pings weren't too clear, but they still talked after awhile. I guess saving my AD carry twice showed I knew to listen. :x It's just that they didn't say anything at all in champ select, even when I faked a troll pick to make them react, so I feared it'd be the same in game.
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TOO with 4.4k hp Skarner on stream atm. Tankiest Skarner I've ever seen.
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Hey I'm just getting into jungling, I have pretty good game sense so I do well.
I want to pick up a decent hero for jungle, but not a boring one, someone preferably a bit rare to see, I can deal with not being tier 1. I don't really want to play lee because everyone does, skarner is boring, nocturne is too common too.
Basically whats a cool char that CAN jungle ok, I like weird stuff.
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On January 09 2012 09:47 sob3k wrote:
Hey I'm just getting into jungling, I have pretty good game sense so I do well.
I want to pick up a decent hero for jungle, but not a boring one, someone preferably a bit rare to see, I can deal with not being tier 1. I don't really want to play lee because everyone does, skarner is boring, nocturne is too common too.
Basically whats a cool char that CAN jungle ok, I like weird stuff.
Lee Skarner and Udyr are probably the top 3 junglers in the game atm.
If you want someone not jungled that often, try Trundle. Decent clear time thanks to Contaminate and he has pretty strong ganks.
Malphite can jungle, but his ganks are not strong until lvl 6. Pretty mediocre prior to that.
Then theres jungle Trynd. Trynd is pretty stupid atm. Never jungled him, but I think the only thing that doesn't make him top tier is his clear time. Not too sure on that though.
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On January 09 2012 09:45 Cloud9157 wrote:
TOO with 4.4k hp Skarner on stream atm. Tankiest Skarner I've ever seen.
wut o_O any skarner with 4 tanky items is going to tankier than that, what on earth
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On January 09 2012 09:47 sob3k wrote:
Hey I'm just getting into jungling, I have pretty good game sense so I do well.
I want to pick up a decent hero for jungle, but not a boring one, someone preferably a bit rare to see, I can deal with not being tier 1. I don't really want to play lee because everyone does, skarner is boring, nocturne is too common too.
Basically whats a cool char that CAN jungle ok, I like weird stuff.
Pirate? Jarman? My fave junglers atm.
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On January 09 2012 09:47 sob3k wrote:
Hey I'm just getting into jungling, I have pretty good game sense so I do well.
I want to pick up a decent hero for jungle, but not a boring one, someone preferably a bit rare to see, I can deal with not being tier 1. I don't really want to play lee because everyone does, skarner is boring, nocturne is too common too.
Basically whats a cool char that CAN jungle ok, I like weird stuff.
Jungle AD Janna. Your shield gives you a stupid amount of bonus AD, and you have so much utility that ganks are effective. AND you have bonus movement speed.
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On January 09 2012 09:47 sob3k wrote:
Hey I'm just getting into jungling, I have pretty good game sense so I do well.
I want to pick up a decent hero for jungle, but not a boring one, someone preferably a bit rare to see, I can deal with not being tier 1. I don't really want to play lee because everyone does, skarner is boring, nocturne is too common too.
Basically whats a cool char that CAN jungle ok, I like weird stuff.
jarmander
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On January 09 2012 09:56 FuzzyLord wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 09:47 sob3k wrote:
Hey I'm just getting into jungling, I have pretty good game sense so I do well.
I want to pick up a decent hero for jungle, but not a boring one, someone preferably a bit rare to see, I can deal with not being tier 1. I don't really want to play lee because everyone does, skarner is boring, nocturne is too common too.
Basically whats a cool char that CAN jungle ok, I like weird stuff. Jungle AD Janna. Your shield gives you a stupid amount of bonus AD, and you have so much utility that ganks are effective. AND you have bonus movement speed.
Janna is shitty as fuck in the jungle. Can't clear camps fast ever.
Karthus/Karma; Karthus gank with wall, Karma gank with mantra-w; both clear pretty fast
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poppy jungle is undefeated.
how does one deal with dat level 6 gank. 10x stronker than skarner + ww combined
not to mention she has retardedly fast jungle and like 2 shots the red buff when you're clearing with Q
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On January 09 2012 10:11 CeriseCherries wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 09:56 FuzzyLord wrote:On January 09 2012 09:47 sob3k wrote:
Hey I'm just getting into jungling, I have pretty good game sense so I do well.
I want to pick up a decent hero for jungle, but not a boring one, someone preferably a bit rare to see, I can deal with not being tier 1. I don't really want to play lee because everyone does, skarner is boring, nocturne is too common too.
Basically whats a cool char that CAN jungle ok, I like weird stuff. Jungle AD Janna. Your shield gives you a stupid amount of bonus AD, and you have so much utility that ganks are effective. AND you have bonus movement speed. Janna is shitty as fuck in the jungle. Can't clear camps fast ever. Karthus/Karma; Karthus gank with wall, Karma gank with mantra-w; both clear pretty fast
That's a silly exaggeration, anyone can clear jungle camps fast with a wriggles, and some attack speed. But yeah Janna is a laughably bad jungler because her early jungle will be very slow so she'll be behind before the game has hardly begun. If you want to try a non-support Janna you're much better going mid, AP or AD can both work depending on the opponent.
I know someone from TL whom shall remain nameless who seems to like Jungle Annie, though I haven't actually seen him do it so they may have just been trolling me more than they usually do. Jungle Karthus is for sure viable, usually just not done because he's strong enough in lane anyway and can stack Tear faster there.
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On January 09 2012 09:53 Cloud9157 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 09:47 sob3k wrote:
Hey I'm just getting into jungling, I have pretty good game sense so I do well.
I want to pick up a decent hero for jungle, but not a boring one, someone preferably a bit rare to see, I can deal with not being tier 1. I don't really want to play lee because everyone does, skarner is boring, nocturne is too common too.
Basically whats a cool char that CAN jungle ok, I like weird stuff. Lee Skarner and Udyr are probably the top 3 junglers in the game atm.
Top 3 after the 2 permabans, Shaco and Rammus :p
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Only one issue with fun, nonstandard junglers; good luck getting a game started w/o dodges if you go Janna or Karth w/ smite.
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Jungle tf. Ad, clearspeed is actually surprisingly good, ganks are obscene.
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On January 09 2012 09:53 Cloud9157 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 09:47 sob3k wrote:
Hey I'm just getting into jungling, I have pretty good game sense so I do well.
I want to pick up a decent hero for jungle, but not a boring one, someone preferably a bit rare to see, I can deal with not being tier 1. I don't really want to play lee because everyone does, skarner is boring, nocturne is too common too.
Basically whats a cool char that CAN jungle ok, I like weird stuff. Lee Skarner and Udyr are probably the top 3 junglers in the game atm. If you want someone not jungled that often, try Trundle. Decent clear time thanks to Contaminate and he has pretty strong ganks. Malphite can jungle, but his ganks are not strong until lvl 6. Pretty mediocre prior to that. Then theres jungle Trynd. Trynd is pretty stupid atm. Never jungled him, but I think the only thing that doesn't make him top tier is his clear time. Not too sure on that though.
Really? I've been playing Maokai all this week and I think his pre-lvl 6 ganks are infinitely stronger than Skarner and I think he's a stronger ganker than Udyr as well pretty consistently.
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On January 09 2012 07:22 Promises wrote:
I think gamewise I'm roughly 25-4 with him, with an average score of 15-5-10 or something similar. He's far from a horrible champ and I fail to see how he'd be any easyer to gank then say Malzahar/Annie/Brand. Its basically just Twitch and Rammus I have trouble with =)
Brand has a stun on demand, Annie is retarted if she pushes up to the middle without having her stun ready, Malz is a horrible example because he pushes all day without actually being somewhere near the creeps. Also, not trying to be a dick, but your scores say nothing about the objective strength of a champ.
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On January 09 2012 10:33 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 09:53 Cloud9157 wrote:On January 09 2012 09:47 sob3k wrote:
Hey I'm just getting into jungling, I have pretty good game sense so I do well.
I want to pick up a decent hero for jungle, but not a boring one, someone preferably a bit rare to see, I can deal with not being tier 1. I don't really want to play lee because everyone does, skarner is boring, nocturne is too common too.
Basically whats a cool char that CAN jungle ok, I like weird stuff. Lee Skarner and Udyr are probably the top 3 junglers in the game atm. If you want someone not jungled that often, try Trundle. Decent clear time thanks to Contaminate and he has pretty strong ganks. Malphite can jungle, but his ganks are not strong until lvl 6. Pretty mediocre prior to that. Then theres jungle Trynd. Trynd is pretty stupid atm. Never jungled him, but I think the only thing that doesn't make him top tier is his clear time. Not too sure on that though. Really? I've been playing Maokai all this week and I think his pre-lvl 6 ganks are infinitely stronger than Skarner and I think he's a stronger ganker than Udyr as well pretty consistently.
of course his pre 6 ganks are better, his ganking tool is not his ult.
Once skarner hits 6 if he comes to gank your lane and has flash chances are you dead
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Jarvan look fun, I think I'll try him out.
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On January 09 2012 10:36 Bladeorade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 10:33 koreasilver wrote:On January 09 2012 09:53 Cloud9157 wrote:On January 09 2012 09:47 sob3k wrote:
Hey I'm just getting into jungling, I have pretty good game sense so I do well.
I want to pick up a decent hero for jungle, but not a boring one, someone preferably a bit rare to see, I can deal with not being tier 1. I don't really want to play lee because everyone does, skarner is boring, nocturne is too common too.
Basically whats a cool char that CAN jungle ok, I like weird stuff. Lee Skarner and Udyr are probably the top 3 junglers in the game atm. If you want someone not jungled that often, try Trundle. Decent clear time thanks to Contaminate and he has pretty strong ganks. Malphite can jungle, but his ganks are not strong until lvl 6. Pretty mediocre prior to that. Then theres jungle Trynd. Trynd is pretty stupid atm. Never jungled him, but I think the only thing that doesn't make him top tier is his clear time. Not too sure on that though. Really? I've been playing Maokai all this week and I think his pre-lvl 6 ganks are infinitely stronger than Skarner and I think he's a stronger ganker than Udyr as well pretty consistently. of course his pre 6 ganks are better, his ganking tool is not his ult. Once skarner hits 6 if he comes to gank your lane and has flash chances are you dead
I know, that's what I mean. His ganks definitely are not weak before lvl 6 like he's saying.
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