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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
December 29 2011 01:18 GMT
#3921
I just massive failed as jungle twitch lol.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
December 29 2011 01:23 GMT
#3922
On December 29 2011 09:46 koreasilver wrote:
I find that the impact of runes is extremely noticeable. You can really feel the difference of going into lane against an early game lane bully like Renekton and Gangplank with someone like Riven with armor seals + quints rather than armor seals and ad quints. Rune pages give you a pretty significant boost in whatever they are built for in the first few minutes.



I played jungle udyr with my ap masteries and runes. As slow as fiddle in the jungle and equally tanky. Huge difference, I ended up dying 4-5 times in situations where I would have been fine/gotten kills otherwise. The difference between having mr/lvl blues vs flat mr is not that important for example, but a proper setup makes so much difference.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 29 2011 01:33 GMT
#3923
Movement Speed Quints. Those things make or break Udyr/Singed/Scarner(I am leaning to them on Maokai) and some others. They immensely improve ones ability to chase and flee allowing pushing lanes solo and knowing you can get away should the need arise.

If you haven't taken the time to buy them on discount with the Sugary Rush ones, DO SO! It's so worth the ip if you play a champion who can take advantage of it.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Reggiegigas
Profile Joined August 2010
234 Posts
December 29 2011 01:34 GMT
#3924
975x2 for Maokai with his holiday skin. Not going to be able to gather the requisite IP for him. It's hella expensive, but I really like christmas trees. Fml. I also want to try Kennen. He seems fun. And Rumble.

Went 9/0/19 then 13/0/8 as Poppy though so my night is done. God I LOVE her. Her charge is just like the Diablo 2 paladin's and that's awesome. I really need to buy her Battle Regalia skin. Actually looks feminine in it, I didn't realize she was a girl for a long time. Derp.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 02:03:00
December 29 2011 02:02 GMT
#3925
Would people be interested in watch me try to climb out of my elo hell on eune? (1600 and rising)
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 02:31:36
December 29 2011 02:21 GMT
#3926
On December 29 2011 10:34 Reggiegigas wrote:
975x2 for Maokai with his holiday skin. Not going to be able to gather the requisite IP for him. It's hella expensive, but I really like christmas trees.


Charred Maokai is better, just saying.

Edit: If anyone cares, these are my rune pages:
AP TANK - Mpen reds, armour yellows, mr glyphs, health quints
AP CARRY - Mpen reds, mana regen/lvl yellows, ap/lvl glyphs, flat ap quints
TANKY AD (jungle mostly) - Apen reds, armour yellows, mr/lvl glyphs, aspeed quints
RANGED AD (not finished) - Apen reds, hp/lvl yellows, mr/lvl glyphs, aspeed quints
(empty page)
GALIO - Mpen reds, hp/lvl yellows, mr glyphs, health quints (Invest heavily into armour, and a bit of MR, not many health items)
SHEN TOP - Mpen reds, armour yellows, mr/lvl glyphs, armour quints (Smashgizmo's guide)
RYZE (incomplete) - Mpen reds, mana regen/lvl yellows, mana glyphs, health quints
JUNGLE MAOKAI - 2 Aspeed reds, 7 mpen reds, armour seals, mr/lvl glyphs, AP quints

Any constructive critisizm about these?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
December 29 2011 02:28 GMT
#3927
So I just bought Aristocrat Vayne skin like 2 days ago, and now it's on sale for 50% off. Will Riot refund me the difference if I send in a support ticket?
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 29 2011 02:35 GMT
#3928
On December 29 2011 11:28 Koenig99 wrote:
So I just bought Aristocrat Vayne skin like 2 days ago, and now it's on sale for 50% off. Will Riot refund me the difference if I send in a support ticket?

There's never any harm in trying. Riot support is generally pretty nice.
Nehsb
Profile Joined May 2009
United States380 Posts
December 29 2011 02:39 GMT
#3929
On December 29 2011 11:21 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 10:34 Reggiegigas wrote:
975x2 for Maokai with his holiday skin. Not going to be able to gather the requisite IP for him. It's hella expensive, but I really like christmas trees.


Charred Maokai is better, just saying.

Edit: If anyone cares, these are my rune pages:
AP TANK - Mpen reds, armour yellows, mr glyphs, health quints
AP CARRY - Mpen reds, mana regen/lvl yellows, ap/lvl glyphs, flat ap quints
TANKY AD (jungle mostly) - Apen reds, armour yellows, mr/lvl glyphs, aspeed quints
RANGED AD (not finished) - Apen reds, hp/lvl yellows, mr/lvl glyphs, aspeed quints
(empty page)
GALIO - Mpen reds, hp/lvl yellows, mr glyphs, health quints (Invest heavily into armour, and a bit of MR, not many health items)
SHEN TOP - Mpen reds, armour yellows, mr/lvl glyphs, armour quints (Smashgizmo's guide)
RYZE (incomplete) - Mpen reds, mana regen/lvl yellows, mana glyphs, health quints
JUNGLE MAOKAI - 2 Aspeed reds, 7 mpen reds, armour seals, mr/lvl glyphs, AP quints

Any constructive critisizm about these?



IMO movespeed quints are amazing on ryze. And are aspeed quints good on ranged ad? I don't really play ranged ad, but I was under the impression that ranged ad always went apen, ad, or movespeed as quints.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 02:49:04
December 29 2011 02:48 GMT
#3930
I'd say MS quints on Maokai—gives you that edge you need to catch up and W somebody who dared to flash away, right before you Q him back toward your team that was following you.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 02:50:39
December 29 2011 02:49 GMT
#3931
On December 29 2011 11:39 Nehsb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 11:21 57 Corvette wrote:
On December 29 2011 10:34 Reggiegigas wrote:
975x2 for Maokai with his holiday skin. Not going to be able to gather the requisite IP for him. It's hella expensive, but I really like christmas trees.


Charred Maokai is better, just saying.

Edit: If anyone cares, these are my rune pages:
AP TANK - Mpen reds, armour yellows, mr glyphs, health quints
AP CARRY - Mpen reds, mana regen/lvl yellows, ap/lvl glyphs, flat ap quints
TANKY AD (jungle mostly) - Apen reds, armour yellows, mr/lvl glyphs, aspeed quints
RANGED AD (not finished) - Apen reds, hp/lvl yellows, mr/lvl glyphs, aspeed quints
(empty page)
GALIO - Mpen reds, hp/lvl yellows, mr glyphs, health quints (Invest heavily into armour, and a bit of MR, not many health items)
SHEN TOP - Mpen reds, armour yellows, mr/lvl glyphs, armour quints (Smashgizmo's guide)
RYZE (incomplete) - Mpen reds, mana regen/lvl yellows, mana glyphs, health quints
JUNGLE MAOKAI - 2 Aspeed reds, 7 mpen reds, armour seals, mr/lvl glyphs, AP quints

Any constructive critisizm about these?



IMO movespeed quints are amazing on ryze. And are aspeed quints good on ranged ad? I don't really play ranged ad, but I was under the impression that ranged ad always went apen, ad, or movespeed as quints.

re: Ryze runes. Has anyone tried spell vamp quints on him? And if so, does it work? Just it would seem to me like decent runes for someone who doesnt use the AP quints that every other caster uses.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17278 Posts
December 29 2011 03:11 GMT
#3932
I imagine spell vamp quints vs movespeed to be rather situational on Ryze. He already gets tons of vamp from his normal build of wota + ult, so it'd primarily be best early on, while move speed gets better and better.
twitch.tv/cratonz
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 03:17:54
December 29 2011 03:15 GMT
#3933
On December 29 2011 11:49 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 11:39 Nehsb wrote:
On December 29 2011 11:21 57 Corvette wrote:
On December 29 2011 10:34 Reggiegigas wrote:
975x2 for Maokai with his holiday skin. Not going to be able to gather the requisite IP for him. It's hella expensive, but I really like christmas trees.


Charred Maokai is better, just saying.

Edit: If anyone cares, these are my rune pages:
AP TANK - Mpen reds, armour yellows, mr glyphs, health quints
AP CARRY - Mpen reds, mana regen/lvl yellows, ap/lvl glyphs, flat ap quints
TANKY AD (jungle mostly) - Apen reds, armour yellows, mr/lvl glyphs, aspeed quints
RANGED AD (not finished) - Apen reds, hp/lvl yellows, mr/lvl glyphs, aspeed quints
(empty page)
GALIO - Mpen reds, hp/lvl yellows, mr glyphs, health quints (Invest heavily into armour, and a bit of MR, not many health items)
SHEN TOP - Mpen reds, armour yellows, mr/lvl glyphs, armour quints (Smashgizmo's guide)
RYZE (incomplete) - Mpen reds, mana regen/lvl yellows, mana glyphs, health quints
JUNGLE MAOKAI - 2 Aspeed reds, 7 mpen reds, armour seals, mr/lvl glyphs, AP quints

Any constructive critisizm about these?



IMO movespeed quints are amazing on ryze. And are aspeed quints good on ranged ad? I don't really play ranged ad, but I was under the impression that ranged ad always went apen, ad, or movespeed as quints.

re: Ryze runes. Has anyone tried spell vamp quints on him? And if so, does it work? Just it would seem to me like decent runes for someone who doesnt use the AP quints that every other caster uses.


they're a lot lot lot less cost efficient than the lifesteal runes, which are about on par with standard runes, hence by the transitive property I determine they are not that good.

I don't think there are many people that can tell you from experience what they're like, kinda expensive. Why not just mana quints? Those seem fine.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
December 29 2011 03:16 GMT
#3934
are the skins for 520rp on sale or is that just a normal price?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17278 Posts
December 29 2011 03:17 GMT
#3935
Regular.
twitch.tv/cratonz
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 29 2011 03:29 GMT
#3936
you can filter according to whether skins are on sale
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 03:44:29
December 29 2011 03:42 GMT
#3937
Hmm, Lee sin going on sale. Might pick him up as another jungler for my lineup. Maokai is great and all, but sometimes I need an AD jungler and Xin just doesn't cut it any more

There are 2 reasons I don't run MS quints on jungle maokai:
1. I don't own MS quints yet
2. I need the AP for the first few clears
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
December 29 2011 03:46 GMT
#3938
On December 29 2011 12:11 Craton wrote:
I imagine spell vamp quints vs movespeed to be rather situational on Ryze. He already gets tons of vamp from his normal build of wota + ult, so it'd primarily be best early on, while move speed gets better and better.

what I'm wondering is if you can get away with not building WotA with them. Ryze always seems so constrained in his item choices and it would be nice to be able to have some options.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
December 29 2011 03:48 GMT
#3939
On December 29 2011 12:46 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 12:11 Craton wrote:
I imagine spell vamp quints vs movespeed to be rather situational on Ryze. He already gets tons of vamp from his normal build of wota + ult, so it'd primarily be best early on, while move speed gets better and better.

what I'm wondering is if you can get away with not building WotA with them. Ryze always seems so constrained in his item choices and it would be nice to be able to have some options.

I think its the WotA's Aura that gives allies Spell vamp as well that makes it better than the quints. If you wanted to be a selfish bastard and keep all the stats to yourself, I suppose you can replace the WotA with spellvamp quints, but no one likes selfish people
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
December 29 2011 03:56 GMT
#3940
On December 29 2011 12:48 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 12:46 Treadmill wrote:
On December 29 2011 12:11 Craton wrote:
I imagine spell vamp quints vs movespeed to be rather situational on Ryze. He already gets tons of vamp from his normal build of wota + ult, so it'd primarily be best early on, while move speed gets better and better.

what I'm wondering is if you can get away with not building WotA with them. Ryze always seems so constrained in his item choices and it would be nice to be able to have some options.

I think its the WotA's Aura that gives allies Spell vamp as well that makes it better than the quints. If you wanted to be a selfish bastard and keep all the stats to yourself, I suppose you can replace the WotA with spellvamp quints, but no one likes selfish people

Yeah but a decent amount of the time either your team doesnt really benefit from wota or someone else builds it. Cuz ryze would really benefit from QSS/GA or even FoN or RoA. Just since you pretty much need boots/FH/Banshees/tear/wota/void staff you dont ever have room for anything else.
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