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On December 22 2011 01:17 r.Evo wrote:I'm sorry to do it again Craton (<3), but DotA 2 has an awesome feature there. Since you can manually bind everything to any key (basicly same possibilites as with Q3 or any source game like CS or TF2), what I'm running is this: Show nested quote +bind "leftarrow" "say_team miss top"
bind "rightarrow" "say_team miss bottom"
bind "downarrow" "say_team miss mid"
bind "uparrow" "say_team re" It's SO much easier to quickly switch to the arrow keys than open chat, type, press enter while missing 2 cs and maybe even taking your hand off the mouse just to have rammus flash into you. =D
There's also the feature of being able to draw arrows/lines on the minimap rather than just pings.
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On December 22 2011 02:46 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2011 01:17 r.Evo wrote:I'm sorry to do it again Craton (<3), but DotA 2 has an awesome feature there. Since you can manually bind everything to any key (basicly same possibilites as with Q3 or any source game like CS or TF2), what I'm running is this: bind "leftarrow" "say_team miss top"
bind "rightarrow" "say_team miss bottom"
bind "downarrow" "say_team miss mid"
bind "uparrow" "say_team re" It's SO much easier to quickly switch to the arrow keys than open chat, type, press enter while missing 2 cs and maybe even taking your hand off the mouse just to have rammus flash into you. =D There's also the feature of being able to draw arrows/lines on the minimap rather than just pings.
omg they did the Guild Wars compass thing that I'd been pining for? *swoons
Still not gonna play it but dang, lol.
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On December 22 2011 00:34 Sandster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 22:30 Haemonculus wrote:On December 21 2011 22:28 spinesheath wrote:On December 21 2011 22:24 Haemonculus wrote:On December 21 2011 22:08 spinesheath wrote:On December 21 2011 21:33 LoCicero wrote:
Here's something I think people should do more: ping the map if someone is missing. Don't just type it, I rarely read chat when I'm focused on trying to be aggressive in my lane. Use pings excessively, they're a very fast and efficient way of communicating. Even if your opposing laner is just in the brush, it's important to ping so your team can play defensive. Problem: Some people take every single ping as a "GO SUICIDE HERE" command. Now I definitely agree, pings are a good way to get attention. But sadly sometimes you get the opposite effect, and instead of pulling back because Sion is coming for a gank, your top lane tries to intercept Sion and gets sandwiched to death. So a seperate thing people should do more: Don't blindly react to pings (with whatever action), always evaluate the situation. Might be better to use retreat pings when indicating that "hey mid is on his way down to murder both of you plz be cares!" I dunno I find that calling MIAs is a crap shoot anyway. When I call it I spam it in caps like twice. "MID MIA" "MID MIA" just so people can't really miss it. But sometimes even with that, people are too busy last hitting or too focused on their lane to even notice. It's probably just as effective to put wards in unusual places, (halfway down river, or like in that bush across from their wraiths) so that your bot/top lane can SEE the enemy coming to their lane. Even then you still should ping because then you have a chance that they will actually LOOK at the minimap, which is required for seeing the enemy. Obviously still ping. But having a ward in the popular paths to other lanes at least solves the "Is that a 'run away' ping, or a 'GO THERE NOW' ping?" question for your other lanes. Instead of typing MIA I generally ping 3x in the direction that I think he's going. I never understood the MIA calls; if you're not aware enough of the map then you're not going to see the tiny "mia" in text anyway. The visual and audio cue from pinging is so much stronger. One time when I did that, the lane I pinged gets ganked ~8 seconds later, and my teammate goes WTF NO MIA CALL? I just say "I pinged him going to your lane" and this guy gives the most bullshit excuses, with the two I like best being 1) I don't know what 3 pings from mid lane to top lane could mean, and 2) I don't play with sound. Agree with the MIA ping, but the retreat ping works fine for signaling MIA for now.
The whole MIA calling thing is stupid anyway. It's coddling people and not teaching them about map awareness at all.
If you have time to look at the chatbox to read MIA calls, you have time to look at the minimap.
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On December 22 2011 03:03 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2011 00:34 Sandster wrote:On December 21 2011 22:30 Haemonculus wrote:On December 21 2011 22:28 spinesheath wrote:On December 21 2011 22:24 Haemonculus wrote:On December 21 2011 22:08 spinesheath wrote:On December 21 2011 21:33 LoCicero wrote:
Here's something I think people should do more: ping the map if someone is missing. Don't just type it, I rarely read chat when I'm focused on trying to be aggressive in my lane. Use pings excessively, they're a very fast and efficient way of communicating. Even if your opposing laner is just in the brush, it's important to ping so your team can play defensive. Problem: Some people take every single ping as a "GO SUICIDE HERE" command. Now I definitely agree, pings are a good way to get attention. But sadly sometimes you get the opposite effect, and instead of pulling back because Sion is coming for a gank, your top lane tries to intercept Sion and gets sandwiched to death. So a seperate thing people should do more: Don't blindly react to pings (with whatever action), always evaluate the situation. Might be better to use retreat pings when indicating that "hey mid is on his way down to murder both of you plz be cares!" I dunno I find that calling MIAs is a crap shoot anyway. When I call it I spam it in caps like twice. "MID MIA" "MID MIA" just so people can't really miss it. But sometimes even with that, people are too busy last hitting or too focused on their lane to even notice. It's probably just as effective to put wards in unusual places, (halfway down river, or like in that bush across from their wraiths) so that your bot/top lane can SEE the enemy coming to their lane. Even then you still should ping because then you have a chance that they will actually LOOK at the minimap, which is required for seeing the enemy. Obviously still ping. But having a ward in the popular paths to other lanes at least solves the "Is that a 'run away' ping, or a 'GO THERE NOW' ping?" question for your other lanes. Instead of typing MIA I generally ping 3x in the direction that I think he's going. I never understood the MIA calls; if you're not aware enough of the map then you're not going to see the tiny "mia" in text anyway. The visual and audio cue from pinging is so much stronger. One time when I did that, the lane I pinged gets ganked ~8 seconds later, and my teammate goes WTF NO MIA CALL? I just say "I pinged him going to your lane" and this guy gives the most bullshit excuses, with the two I like best being 1) I don't know what 3 pings from mid lane to top lane could mean, and 2) I don't play with sound. Agree with the MIA ping, but the retreat ping works fine for signaling MIA for now. The whole MIA calling thing is stupid anyway. It's coddling people and not teaching them about map awareness at all. If you have time to look at the chatbox to read MIA calls, you have time to look at the minimap.
Map awareness is good and all but if there aren't any wards its nice to get the heads up. It's a little harder to notice when someone is missing compared to seeing someone from a ward. It's really just a courtesy. Anything to help the team win...
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Teamwork is more important, if you don't call mias you aren't doing your part to win. Some people have to pay a little more attention to the lane sometimes. When people are going for kills, some people don't have the luxury of looking at the map 24/7.
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On December 21 2011 12:36 ryanAnger wrote:I fucking love Ahri. ![[image loading]](http://oi40.tinypic.com/1f7dx2.jpg)
holy shit, that's the best string of ahri games i've ever seen. you sir, are a god among men.
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On December 22 2011 03:21 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2011 03:03 Ferrose wrote:On December 22 2011 00:34 Sandster wrote:On December 21 2011 22:30 Haemonculus wrote:On December 21 2011 22:28 spinesheath wrote:On December 21 2011 22:24 Haemonculus wrote:On December 21 2011 22:08 spinesheath wrote:On December 21 2011 21:33 LoCicero wrote:
Here's something I think people should do more: ping the map if someone is missing. Don't just type it, I rarely read chat when I'm focused on trying to be aggressive in my lane. Use pings excessively, they're a very fast and efficient way of communicating. Even if your opposing laner is just in the brush, it's important to ping so your team can play defensive. Problem: Some people take every single ping as a "GO SUICIDE HERE" command. Now I definitely agree, pings are a good way to get attention. But sadly sometimes you get the opposite effect, and instead of pulling back because Sion is coming for a gank, your top lane tries to intercept Sion and gets sandwiched to death. So a seperate thing people should do more: Don't blindly react to pings (with whatever action), always evaluate the situation. Might be better to use retreat pings when indicating that "hey mid is on his way down to murder both of you plz be cares!" I dunno I find that calling MIAs is a crap shoot anyway. When I call it I spam it in caps like twice. "MID MIA" "MID MIA" just so people can't really miss it. But sometimes even with that, people are too busy last hitting or too focused on their lane to even notice. It's probably just as effective to put wards in unusual places, (halfway down river, or like in that bush across from their wraiths) so that your bot/top lane can SEE the enemy coming to their lane. Even then you still should ping because then you have a chance that they will actually LOOK at the minimap, which is required for seeing the enemy. Obviously still ping. But having a ward in the popular paths to other lanes at least solves the "Is that a 'run away' ping, or a 'GO THERE NOW' ping?" question for your other lanes. Instead of typing MIA I generally ping 3x in the direction that I think he's going. I never understood the MIA calls; if you're not aware enough of the map then you're not going to see the tiny "mia" in text anyway. The visual and audio cue from pinging is so much stronger. One time when I did that, the lane I pinged gets ganked ~8 seconds later, and my teammate goes WTF NO MIA CALL? I just say "I pinged him going to your lane" and this guy gives the most bullshit excuses, with the two I like best being 1) I don't know what 3 pings from mid lane to top lane could mean, and 2) I don't play with sound. Agree with the MIA ping, but the retreat ping works fine for signaling MIA for now. The whole MIA calling thing is stupid anyway. It's coddling people and not teaching them about map awareness at all. If you have time to look at the chatbox to read MIA calls, you have time to look at the minimap. Map awareness is good and all but if there aren't any wards its nice to get the heads up. It's a little harder to notice when someone is missing compared to seeing someone from a ward. It's really just a courtesy. Anything to help the team win...
Well yeah, I always call MIAs because I don't expect people to pay attention anyway. It just pisses me off when someone dies and goes "OMG NO MIA?!"
Maybe you wouldn't have died if you paid a bit more attention and didn't overextend.
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I use fall back pings on my lane for mia's. Half of the people are too daft to notice, either way.
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On December 22 2011 03:03 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2011 00:34 Sandster wrote:On December 21 2011 22:30 Haemonculus wrote:On December 21 2011 22:28 spinesheath wrote:On December 21 2011 22:24 Haemonculus wrote:On December 21 2011 22:08 spinesheath wrote:On December 21 2011 21:33 LoCicero wrote:
Here's something I think people should do more: ping the map if someone is missing. Don't just type it, I rarely read chat when I'm focused on trying to be aggressive in my lane. Use pings excessively, they're a very fast and efficient way of communicating. Even if your opposing laner is just in the brush, it's important to ping so your team can play defensive. Problem: Some people take every single ping as a "GO SUICIDE HERE" command. Now I definitely agree, pings are a good way to get attention. But sadly sometimes you get the opposite effect, and instead of pulling back because Sion is coming for a gank, your top lane tries to intercept Sion and gets sandwiched to death. So a seperate thing people should do more: Don't blindly react to pings (with whatever action), always evaluate the situation. Might be better to use retreat pings when indicating that "hey mid is on his way down to murder both of you plz be cares!" I dunno I find that calling MIAs is a crap shoot anyway. When I call it I spam it in caps like twice. "MID MIA" "MID MIA" just so people can't really miss it. But sometimes even with that, people are too busy last hitting or too focused on their lane to even notice. It's probably just as effective to put wards in unusual places, (halfway down river, or like in that bush across from their wraiths) so that your bot/top lane can SEE the enemy coming to their lane. Even then you still should ping because then you have a chance that they will actually LOOK at the minimap, which is required for seeing the enemy. Obviously still ping. But having a ward in the popular paths to other lanes at least solves the "Is that a 'run away' ping, or a 'GO THERE NOW' ping?" question for your other lanes. Instead of typing MIA I generally ping 3x in the direction that I think he's going. I never understood the MIA calls; if you're not aware enough of the map then you're not going to see the tiny "mia" in text anyway. The visual and audio cue from pinging is so much stronger. One time when I did that, the lane I pinged gets ganked ~8 seconds later, and my teammate goes WTF NO MIA CALL? I just say "I pinged him going to your lane" and this guy gives the most bullshit excuses, with the two I like best being 1) I don't know what 3 pings from mid lane to top lane could mean, and 2) I don't play with sound. Agree with the MIA ping, but the retreat ping works fine for signaling MIA for now. The whole MIA calling thing is stupid anyway. It's coddling people and not teaching them about map awareness at all. If you have time to look at the chatbox to read MIA calls, you have time to look at the minimap.
While I largely agree with this (sometimes i'll call MIA on another lane before they do because I watch the minimap constantly), sometimes you just don't know if a lane is really MIA unless you're in it. (most obvious example, hiding in brush, which is never warded in normal queue. but also maybe hiding behind their creep wave, or they were really low and must have gone to heal, etc.)
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On December 22 2011 03:38 Craton wrote:
I use fall back pings on my lane for mia's. Half of the people are too daft to notice, either way.
The best is when you assiduously call all your mias, then someone gets ganked and angrily yells "WHY NO MIA" in chat.
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I dont like calling mia simply because most of the time it means imma end up missing cs or something like that just because people are too stupid to look at the minimap. If im on vent or something like that its a different story, but in chat its stupid hard to do.
But then again, when I die to a gank from another person's lane I always feel stupid for not noticing they were gone, not that I didnt get a mia. Although if it happens a lot in a game I will get frustrated that the lane opponent isnt bothering to actually punish them for leaving.
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On December 22 2011 03:49 FieryBalrog wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2011 03:03 Ferrose wrote:On December 22 2011 00:34 Sandster wrote:On December 21 2011 22:30 Haemonculus wrote:On December 21 2011 22:28 spinesheath wrote:On December 21 2011 22:24 Haemonculus wrote:On December 21 2011 22:08 spinesheath wrote:On December 21 2011 21:33 LoCicero wrote:
Here's something I think people should do more: ping the map if someone is missing. Don't just type it, I rarely read chat when I'm focused on trying to be aggressive in my lane. Use pings excessively, they're a very fast and efficient way of communicating. Even if your opposing laner is just in the brush, it's important to ping so your team can play defensive. Problem: Some people take every single ping as a "GO SUICIDE HERE" command. Now I definitely agree, pings are a good way to get attention. But sadly sometimes you get the opposite effect, and instead of pulling back because Sion is coming for a gank, your top lane tries to intercept Sion and gets sandwiched to death. So a seperate thing people should do more: Don't blindly react to pings (with whatever action), always evaluate the situation. Might be better to use retreat pings when indicating that "hey mid is on his way down to murder both of you plz be cares!" I dunno I find that calling MIAs is a crap shoot anyway. When I call it I spam it in caps like twice. "MID MIA" "MID MIA" just so people can't really miss it. But sometimes even with that, people are too busy last hitting or too focused on their lane to even notice. It's probably just as effective to put wards in unusual places, (halfway down river, or like in that bush across from their wraiths) so that your bot/top lane can SEE the enemy coming to their lane. Even then you still should ping because then you have a chance that they will actually LOOK at the minimap, which is required for seeing the enemy. Obviously still ping. But having a ward in the popular paths to other lanes at least solves the "Is that a 'run away' ping, or a 'GO THERE NOW' ping?" question for your other lanes. Instead of typing MIA I generally ping 3x in the direction that I think he's going. I never understood the MIA calls; if you're not aware enough of the map then you're not going to see the tiny "mia" in text anyway. The visual and audio cue from pinging is so much stronger. One time when I did that, the lane I pinged gets ganked ~8 seconds later, and my teammate goes WTF NO MIA CALL? I just say "I pinged him going to your lane" and this guy gives the most bullshit excuses, with the two I like best being 1) I don't know what 3 pings from mid lane to top lane could mean, and 2) I don't play with sound. Agree with the MIA ping, but the retreat ping works fine for signaling MIA for now. The whole MIA calling thing is stupid anyway. It's coddling people and not teaching them about map awareness at all. If you have time to look at the chatbox to read MIA calls, you have time to look at the minimap. While I largely agree with this (sometimes i'll call MIA on another lane before they do because I watch the minimap constantly), sometimes you just don't know if a lane is really MIA unless you're in it. (most obvious example, hiding in brush, which is never warded in normal queue. but also maybe hiding behind their creep wave, or they were really low and must have gone to heal, etc.)
Yeah, that's true. If I can't see another laner on the map I usually just play a bit more passively. And I often find myself calling MIAs when I'm jungling anyway because sometimes my laners don't lol.
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On December 22 2011 03:53 FieryBalrog wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2011 03:38 Craton wrote:
I use fall back pings on my lane for mia's. Half of the people are too daft to notice, either way. The best is when you assiduously call all your mias, then someone gets ganked and angrily yells "WHY NO MIA" in chat.
And then you say "read the fucking chat box you twat", and then they're like "oh sorry".
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On December 22 2011 03:57 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2011 03:53 FieryBalrog wrote:On December 22 2011 03:38 Craton wrote:
I use fall back pings on my lane for mia's. Half of the people are too daft to notice, either way. The best is when you assiduously call all your mias, then someone gets ganked and angrily yells "WHY NO MIA" in chat. And then you say "read the fucking chat box you twat", and then they're like "oh sorry".
lol. They NEVER say that. Its always "WHY YOU NO SAY IT SOONER"
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On December 22 2011 02:59 Southlight wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2011 02:46 TheYango wrote:On December 22 2011 01:17 r.Evo wrote:I'm sorry to do it again Craton (<3), but DotA 2 has an awesome feature there. Since you can manually bind everything to any key (basicly same possibilites as with Q3 or any source game like CS or TF2), what I'm running is this: bind "leftarrow" "say_team miss top"
bind "rightarrow" "say_team miss bottom"
bind "downarrow" "say_team miss mid"
bind "uparrow" "say_team re" It's SO much easier to quickly switch to the arrow keys than open chat, type, press enter while missing 2 cs and maybe even taking your hand off the mouse just to have rammus flash into you. =D There's also the feature of being able to draw arrows/lines on the minimap rather than just pings. omg they did the Guild Wars compass thing that I'd been pining for? *swoons Still not gonna play it but dang, lol.
Basicly you press ctrl, hold leftlick on the minimap and draw like in MS paint. It will show up in the color of your icon, too. Also I've seen the first guys with scrips who draw donkeys on the map at start and stuff like that. =D
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On December 21 2011 21:33 LoCicero wrote:
Here's something I think people should do more: ping the map if someone is missing. Don't just type it, I rarely read chat when I'm focused on trying to be aggressive in my lane. Use pings excessively, they're a very fast and efficient way of communicating. Even if your opposing laner is just in the brush, it's important to ping so your team can play defensive.
This is so much fun @ low elo, I always ping and people complain that you should type it out, whatever gives them an excuse for not paying attention I guess:p.
On December 21 2011 22:30 Haemonculus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 22:28 spinesheath wrote:On December 21 2011 22:24 Haemonculus wrote:On December 21 2011 22:08 spinesheath wrote:On December 21 2011 21:33 LoCicero wrote:
Here's something I think people should do more: ping the map if someone is missing. Don't just type it, I rarely read chat when I'm focused on trying to be aggressive in my lane. Use pings excessively, they're a very fast and efficient way of communicating. Even if your opposing laner is just in the brush, it's important to ping so your team can play defensive. Problem: Some people take every single ping as a "GO SUICIDE HERE" command. Now I definitely agree, pings are a good way to get attention. But sadly sometimes you get the opposite effect, and instead of pulling back because Sion is coming for a gank, your top lane tries to intercept Sion and gets sandwiched to death. So a seperate thing people should do more: Don't blindly react to pings (with whatever action), always evaluate the situation. Might be better to use retreat pings when indicating that "hey mid is on his way down to murder both of you plz be cares!" I dunno I find that calling MIAs is a crap shoot anyway. When I call it I spam it in caps like twice. "MID MIA" "MID MIA" just so people can't really miss it. But sometimes even with that, people are too busy last hitting or too focused on their lane to even notice. It's probably just as effective to put wards in unusual places, (halfway down river, or like in that bush across from their wraiths) so that your bot/top lane can SEE the enemy coming to their lane. Even then you still should ping because then you have a chance that they will actually LOOK at the minimap, which is required for seeing the enemy. Obviously still ping. But having a ward in the popular paths to other lanes at least solves the "Is that a 'run away' ping, or a 'GO THERE NOW' ping?" question for your other lanes.
Is that a look here he's coming ping or is that an oh someone's coming lets kill them ping, using a fallback ping doesnt let you ping the actual champion~~
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On December 22 2011 04:19 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2011 02:59 Southlight wrote:On December 22 2011 02:46 TheYango wrote:On December 22 2011 01:17 r.Evo wrote:I'm sorry to do it again Craton (<3), but DotA 2 has an awesome feature there. Since you can manually bind everything to any key (basicly same possibilites as with Q3 or any source game like CS or TF2), what I'm running is this: bind "leftarrow" "say_team miss top"
bind "rightarrow" "say_team miss bottom"
bind "downarrow" "say_team miss mid"
bind "uparrow" "say_team re" It's SO much easier to quickly switch to the arrow keys than open chat, type, press enter while missing 2 cs and maybe even taking your hand off the mouse just to have rammus flash into you. =D There's also the feature of being able to draw arrows/lines on the minimap rather than just pings. omg they did the Guild Wars compass thing that I'd been pining for? *swoons Still not gonna play it but dang, lol. Basicly you press ctrl, hold leftlick on the minimap and draw like in MS paint. It will show up in the color of your icon, too. Also I've seen the first guys with scrips who draw donkeys on the map at start and stuff like that. =D
i'm pretty sure i ended up using that feature in GW to draw smiley faces a lot more often than for something actually useful, lol
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On December 21 2011 23:20 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 18:25 JackDino wrote:On December 21 2011 18:17 Makavw wrote:On December 21 2011 13:37 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
ah ok. I guess I was laning vs bad tryndameres then. Who should be able to beat tryn in lane?
Garen poops all over trynd 24/7 unless he gets ganks. Akali does that as well Jax shits so hard on trynd it's not even funny, just needs tabis at 6. I'll try akali then. I hate garen - isn't fun to play and doesn't scale well late game. And I'm like the worst jax player. I always somehow manage to get killed 3 times pre-6 as jax with 0 cs. 
Just lvl W and auto W them whenever any melee tries to cs, works vs almost anyone except for tiger udyr unless you're running MR runes.
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On December 22 2011 03:53 FieryBalrog wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2011 03:38 Craton wrote:
I use fall back pings on my lane for mia's. Half of the people are too daft to notice, either way. The best is when you assiduously call all your mias, then someone gets ganked and angrily yells "WHY NO MIA" in chat.
The worst is the rager who yells WHY NO MIA after your lane based and went to their lane and goes on and on and on.
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I'm pretty sure there's bots in this game now at low levels. I just played a game on a referral acc and there was a karma that just ran back and forth inbetween lanes at the same exact spot and just did this all game.
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