[Patch 1.0.0.131: Ahri] General Discussion - Page 136

On December 21 2011 12:00 Parnage wrote:
Tribunal isn't a right but it is what they set up. It's what they said "Hey we hear about all of these trolls let's put this in to try and help filter and solve the problem" and instead of allowing it to go they went "Well screw that guy, blam!" I understand why they did, but it's not something they should of done. No one get's banned for one game. No one. Unless riot is watching you, then they get to bypass the process -they- set up. It's akin to setting up a court room and then hanging a guy out in front of it without actually using the bloody thing.

It also weakens the thing they are promoting. "You should use tribunal and report them, but don't worry we'll just ban the guy at first game we see because we happened to be watching"

On December 21 2011 12:03 r.Evo wrote:
Honestly I think the "being more strict about it" should definitly apply since I assume this: Riot employee watches stream. Riot employee decides he was stupid as fuck and banned him for it.

iirc there's been quite some cases where people got banned from TL for being retarded in games if mods witnessed it. If it's a clear case like the one in his game I don't see anything wrong with it. People who are retards in games with Riot employees usually get instabanned, too.

On December 21 2011 12:00 Parnage wrote:
It also weakens the thing they are promoting. "You should use tribunal and report them, but don't worry we'll just ban the guy at first game we see because we happened to be watching"

On December 21 2011 11:47 wei2coolman wrote:
What ever happened to poppy? I think I stop seeing her after I reached level 30. No one ever plays her any more. What's the reason?

On December 21 2011 12:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
Riot may not be everywhere, but their PR team is top notch.

On December 21 2011 12:12 overt wrote:


The Tribunal bans no one. It just tells Riot, "these people should be punished." Most tribunal cases end in a warning from Riot and nothing more. It's only repeat offenders who, after being warned, don't correct their behavior that get temp banned. Pendragon just did an AMA on how the Tribunal works on reddit.

Basically, all of this talk about it going through the process is irrelevant since Riot has always banned people when they see something ban worthy. They rarely perm ban people. It's a pretty cool methodology of wanting players to just improve their attitude rather than just flat out punish them forever. It's three fuckin' days. Maybe now saint won't tell people, "I'll throw games and make more money than you doing it" or follow people around stealing their CS.

And again, it probably wasn't just for one game. He was being a dick to other people earlier today too.
Nevermind. He was banned for just that one game. I agree with Riot's reasoning though.

On December 21 2011 12:29 Ecael wrote:

Eh, bullshit. I'd rather see him troll and get away with it because the due process sucks rather than knowing that Rioters will ban at a whim. What the ban reflects to me is not that Riot cares about the playerbase, but that it is willing to hang people randomly to set an example.

It might have been a good PR move, but it reflects horribly upon the way things work currently far as I am concerned. There are plenty of shit players who get away with consistently worse behavior than what Saint did one game. Saint was a dick for intentionally fucking the guy over, but getting banned just because some Rioters caught sight of it in action when dozens more troll consistently and are shown in streams, albeit not their own? zzz

On December 21 2011 12:34 overt wrote:
Wait, did Reginald and Hotshot both get banned for posting messages on GD about saint?

On December 21 2011 12:31 iCanada wrote:


Exactly.

It's not even a good PR move, because suddenly one of your marquee guys is playing your competitors game in front of a couple thousand people isntead of yours.

On December 21 2011 12:29 Ecael wrote:

Eh, bullshit. I'd rather see him troll and get away with it because the due process sucks rather than knowing that Rioters will ban at a whim. What the ban reflects to me is not that Riot cares about the playerbase, but that it is willing to hang people randomly to set an example.

It might have been a good PR move, but it reflects horribly upon the way things work currently far as I am concerned. There are plenty of shit players who get away with consistently worse behavior than what Saint did one game. Saint was a dick for intentionally fucking the guy over, but getting banned just because some Rioters caught sight of it in action when dozens more troll consistently and are shown in streams, albeit not their own? zzz


Frankly I feel like this promotes bad behavior more than anything else. How much bitching and taunting do you see people do about how the tribunal doesn't work? Fortunately for me, I am not saint and I don't play with a stream for thousands of people. So I guess since the tribunal doesn't do shit and Riot is only going to bother banning when they are personally watching, well, I'll just be an ass all I want. Chances of me running into a rioter is slim, the development from tribunal to an actual ban even slimmer.

Riot has other ways of enforcing good behavior on stream, what happened to all the people who were saying how the featured streamer function does exactly that? You troll on stream, you don't get featured. Simple and clear cut. You troll on stream at a bad time and get banned? What kind of random rules are we going by here to ban? Has one game always weighted that much? What happens to all the people who get slapped on the wrist (not even) for similar behavior in one game due to tribunal?

Meh, to me, this is as much of an abuse as the whole affair with Psyonic, if anything, it is worse because people actually looks at it positively.