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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 21 2011 00:52 GMT
#2621
Pretty much curl/ball/taunt(if you see a lane ripe for it if not get curl and taunt at 4) So yeah you got it right.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 01:02:05
December 21 2011 00:54 GMT
#2622
On December 21 2011 09:50 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 09:32 Parnage wrote:
This is one of the few times I get to go "Wow that spotlight was't halfbad"

Some corrections.

1. I prefer the 9/21 some prefer the 21/9 I won't say one is better then the other only that I use the 9/21 as I feel I need the damage.

2. Open with Regrowth and a potion. You'll be able to clear the jungle to 4 and gank easier then you can say ok. Build into Philo/hog/boots and from that point it depends on the game. Most often I'll go to Aegis/randuins. Sometimes I'll get a shurelia's or just rush a warmogs. It really is depending on what you are facing and how well your team is handling things. I do almost always agree with an Aegis choice. It's often times too good an item to pass up. Second favorite is a tie between Randuins or Shurelia's. The actives on both allow for much amusement and can kill many people. Oddly enough I rarely if never get thornmail and the same to be said of Force of Nature. Again it's all situational.

3. Holy crap he got the leveling order of abilities correct I am so proud <3!


what order does he go? me is curious

i tend to do wqe (if i spot a lvl 3 gank), otherwise wqwe


qwewwreeerewwrqqqq or something.

Edit: to be clear, I am reporting the order Phreak suggested.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 21 2011 00:57 GMT
#2623
No, travis was right.

Rammus: wqeeer, or wqweer, r > e > w > q
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 01:04:44
December 21 2011 01:03 GMT
#2624
On December 21 2011 09:45 Ryalnos wrote:
Apparently someone didn't listen to sv and picked jungle, so now sv is following a Lee Sin with a Trundle taking last hits as he tries to jungle.

Pretty hilarious, everyone in the game seems to be on SV's side and now Swain has joined the jungle train.


Apparently saintvicious got banned for that, rofl.

Aaaand stream is offline now lol.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 01:05:01
December 21 2011 01:03 GMT
#2625
On December 21 2011 09:45 Ryalnos wrote:
Apparently someone didn't listen to sv and picked jungle, so now sv is following a Lee Sin with a Trundle taking last hits as he tries to jungle.

Pretty hilarious, everyone in the game seems to be on SV's side and now Swain has joined the jungle train.


And SV just got banned for that game. Lol.

Although it could be a combination of that game plus the games earlier where he was hard randoming a champion and then jungling as that champ.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 21 2011 01:05 GMT
#2626
And Saint suspended till the 24th. For good reasons, but the way he got temp banned, well worth it. At least for a viewing perspective. A leesin takes his jungle slot after Saint said he'd be jungling, Saint snaps and locks in trundle. He proceeds to follow the lee around(eventually being joined by PhantomLord who was at this point "whatever lol") in a roaming gank/jungle squad.

I shouldn't of laughed so hard but I really couldn't help myself.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 21 2011 01:16 GMT
#2627
On December 21 2011 10:05 Parnage wrote:
And Saint suspended till the 24th. For good reasons, but the way he got temp banned, well worth it. At least for a viewing perspective. A leesin takes his jungle slot after Saint said he'd be jungling, Saint snaps and locks in trundle. He proceeds to follow the lee around(eventually being joined by PhantomLord who was at this point "whatever lol") in a roaming gank/jungle squad.

I shouldn't of laughed so hard but I really couldn't help myself.

Meh, Saint could've just q' dodged, or just played another champion, the dude is good enough to carry the team annyways, dunno why he HAS TO HAVE jungle.
liftlift > tsm
fantasticoranges
Profile Joined July 2011
1327 Posts
December 21 2011 01:21 GMT
#2628
On December 21 2011 10:03 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 09:45 Ryalnos wrote:
Apparently someone didn't listen to sv and picked jungle, so now sv is following a Lee Sin with a Trundle taking last hits as he tries to jungle.

Pretty hilarious, everyone in the game seems to be on SV's side and now Swain has joined the jungle train.


And SV just got banned for that game. Lol.

Although it could be a combination of that game plus the games earlier where he was hard randoming a champion and then jungling as that champ.


I don't see how that's a bannable offense, Riot wanted to make it so even lower levels could jungle, that means just about any champ (esp w/ runes) can jungle. I don't get why fitting a role needed in a team comp could be a problem.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17287 Posts
December 21 2011 01:22 GMT
#2629
A number of the pros have that attitude about solo queue. Oce is a huge offender of believing he's entitled to mid no matter what.
twitch.tv/cratonz
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 21 2011 01:23 GMT
#2630
On December 21 2011 09:57 NeoIllusions wrote:
No, travis was right.

Rammus: wqeeer, or wqweer, r > e > w > q

TBH the difference between Q level 1 and W level 1 is not that big, seeing as you should hit level 2 before it matters. You'll get blue in pretty much the same time either way since proper pull + Q + smite kills Blue just fine.

That said, the only reason to really get Q level 1 is if you expect to use it in a level 1 fight, since W is significantly better if something goes awry and you have to start at a small camp.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 21 2011 01:24 GMT
#2631
Banned for that? Psh, he still wins most of his game regardless what he plays. Jungle veigar npnp. Every camp is a boss battle.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
December 21 2011 01:27 GMT
#2632
On December 21 2011 10:03 Ryalnos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 09:45 Ryalnos wrote:
Apparently someone didn't listen to sv and picked jungle, so now sv is following a Lee Sin with a Trundle taking last hits as he tries to jungle.

Pretty hilarious, everyone in the game seems to be on SV's side and now Swain has joined the jungle train.


Apparently saintvicious got banned for that, rofl.

Aaaand stream is offline now lol.

Well to be fair, the other guy *did* call jungle first, and picked his champ first.

Any other player doing what SV did, (picking a duplicate role, following him around and trying to steal every last hit *while* whining about it 24/7) would be labeled an asshole troll in a heartbeat. Celebrities should *not* be allowed to get away with that crap imo.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 21 2011 01:30 GMT
#2633
Just because you play X position for a team doesn't entitle you to that position whenever you want. If somebody picks a role in Q before you and you pick it anyway you deserve to banned, especially if you follow them around the entire game and troll them and ruin the game for every one else. It's one of the reasons the league community is garbage.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
December 21 2011 01:32 GMT
#2634
Riot always picks the worst times to do these things tho. I'm not saying saint shouldn't have been banned, but it's quite funny how they ban him on the day all their servers crap out.
AHHHH 1 person being trolled, BAN SAINT!
Games ruined because people are disconnecting from PVP.net, shhhhh don't tell anyone.

Not saying it's Riot's fault either, but I feel like Riot always picks the worst times to do these big moves.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
December 21 2011 01:36 GMT
#2635
i love how guardsman bob pronounces vayne :D
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
danana
Profile Joined March 2011
United States321 Posts
December 21 2011 01:41 GMT
#2636
i just lost really badly as janna with vayne vs cait/sona, so i have a few questions:
- Cait should counter vayne right? seems like cait is focused on shutting down early game, and vayne does best when she can farm up to late game.
- Do I pretty much need to go for a sustain lane in this case? I'm thinking of buying soraka despite how boring she seems just because there's some cases where sustain seems too important
- Are there any good games to watch to see how to play janna properly? I usually feel comfortable with her but i can never seem to use her ult well. same with alistar but i think me being bad with alistar is mainly just because i constantly miss pulvs...
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 21 2011 01:41 GMT
#2637
On December 21 2011 10:32 OreoBoi wrote:
Riot always picks the worst times to do these things tho. I'm not saying saint shouldn't have been banned, but it's quite funny how they ban him on the day all their servers crap out.
AHHHH 1 person being trolled, BAN SAINT!
Games ruined because people are disconnecting from PVP.net, shhhhh don't tell anyone.

Not saying it's Riot's fault either, but I feel like Riot always picks the worst times to do these big moves.


Rioters watch streams. I'm sure someone was either watching his stream when it was happening or they alerted a Rioter what was going on. I can't imagine banning someone takes more than two minutes to do.

I don't have a problem with pros only play their role on a team in solo q. If you want your team to win you might as well play the role you're best at and if you have first or second pick then why not? It's only an issue when pros have a worse Elo than those they're being matched up with and they feel entitled to play it anyways. I mean, don't get me wrong, if I was on jiji or Regi's team I'd definitely let them AP mid but not everyone cares about winning enough.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
December 21 2011 01:43 GMT
#2638
On December 21 2011 10:30 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Just because you play X position for a team doesn't entitle you to that position whenever you want. If somebody picks a role in Q before you and you pick it anyway you deserve to banned, especially if you follow them around the entire game and troll them and ruin the game for every one else. It's one of the reasons the league community is garbage.


I think it is fair.

Unless you think random solo queu'er's are better than pros at their prospective roles... why wouldn't you put the best players in the best carrying roles?

idk man.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 21 2011 01:46 GMT
#2639
Personally, the only reason I think it's unfair for Saint to be banned is because the only way Riot could have found out so quickly is by watching his stream. None of it went through the due process of him getting reported and his Tribunal case being reviewed.

High-profile players should be treated just the same as normal players. That means banning them when they should be banned, but it also means that it should go through the normal process of reporting and evaluation, not just because they happened to be streaming when it happened.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 01:52:35
December 21 2011 01:47 GMT
#2640
On December 21 2011 10:43 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 10:30 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Just because you play X position for a team doesn't entitle you to that position whenever you want. If somebody picks a role in Q before you and you pick it anyway you deserve to banned, especially if you follow them around the entire game and troll them and ruin the game for every one else. It's one of the reasons the league community is garbage.


I think it is fair.

Unless you think random solo queu'er's are better than pros at their prospective roles... why wouldn't you put the best players in the best carrying roles?

idk man.


i dont think you can really use that argument, because you can't guarantee that 100% of the lol population knows all the pros and what they play. If just 1 person doesn't know saintvicious, and mains jungle, and has a higher pick than sv, you can't really expect them to cede the position to them.

edit: @ yango, i'm not really sure you can lump high profile streamers into the same category as normal users tho. the streamers are kinda expected to be 'role models' of sorts, which means that inevitably they fall under a different category in terms of judgement regardless of what you do. I havn't really formed an opinion on whether i agree with you or not yet, but i dont think it's that black and white.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
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