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On December 01 2011 00:14 Dgiese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 09:43 MoonBear wrote:
Re Trynd Bug: Can you give me steps to reproduce it? Or have a replay? I'll need to be able to see what happened.
Re Red Buff: Spells that apply direct damage will apply red buff. SaintV Jungle Annie about to get even more terror. Confirmed. @ moonbear Hey, sorry for the slow reply. I don't have lolreplays installed... I should probably get it huh? As for steps, it was just a simple 1v1 fight, creeps around. We're fighting it out, I get low, hit R before my life runs out. I hear the scream / shout that he makes when he triggers the ult. I keep getting damaged, about a second later (well before the duration expires, and long enough after I pressed R to know that I definitely activated it), she uses her R and I just straight up die. Let me know if there's anything else that you can think of that I need to provide. It only happened once during the game, so at least it wasn't an ongoing thing.
Not terribly helpful because all I know is that you used R in a teamfight and died. I've seen Trynds use R and not die so I don't really know what the cause was. Maybe just been your ult duration expiring?
Also, Happy Birthday Unichan!
EDIT: And what is this I read on Reddit about TSM and CLG creating a gaming house together?
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Jungling will never be optional till they remove it. Until then it will always be necessary.
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On December 01 2011 01:50 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 01:39 jtype wrote:On December 01 2011 01:36 turdburgler wrote:On December 01 2011 01:32 Requizen wrote:
a solo top like jax is just gonna thank you for the dodge procs while he rips his lane opponent a new one during your "gank" but then how do you 'ever' gank? "hi, i have +50 ad, 10% lifesteal and 30 armor, but only against creeps" a solo top like jax is just gonna thank you for the dodge procs while he rips his lane opponent a new one during your "gank" Not any more. Honestly, 10% lifesteal isn't gonna make that much difference in a gank. it was just a quick out my ass example
Yea, I realize that. I just forgot to put the little  that meant I was being silly.
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On December 01 2011 01:48 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 01:41 TheYango wrote:On December 01 2011 01:38 JackDino wrote:
When a new champ is announced, it takes people only 5 minutes to figure out that the new champ is OP. Then it only takes them 2 matches to realize the champ is shit. Then it takes them 2 weeks to realize without buffs that the champ is not that bad. Than after a full month people realize what the champ actually is supposed to do.
What people "figure out" in 2 matches doesn't mean shit, because 2 matches isn't giving it the time it needs to be figured out. It takes a long time for people to realize whether something is good or bad. I don't think it takes that long for people to realize that something is boring, un-fun, or poorly designed. I sure as hell didn't need 2 months of games on Soraka to realize that I found her boring to play, regardless of how good she is. Plus there's still the issue that some of the premises that Riot built up going into designing the remake are straight-up wrong. Unless they can somehow be convinced otherwise, I don't see any iteration of this remake turning out successfully. You can't design the jungle around junglers being able to gank reliably as part of their gold income, and expect it to make sense in tournament matches where nobody dies for the first 15 minutes. It took people a month to realize how to play irelia properly, you can't tell bad design by just 2 games, boring or unfun you can since bad design isn't exactly an opinion or a feeling you get.
took people a day to realize release xinzhao was OP as fuck.
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On December 01 2011 01:59 MoonBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 00:14 Dgiese wrote:On November 30 2011 09:43 MoonBear wrote:
Re Trynd Bug: Can you give me steps to reproduce it? Or have a replay? I'll need to be able to see what happened.
Re Red Buff: Spells that apply direct damage will apply red buff. SaintV Jungle Annie about to get even more terror. Confirmed. @ moonbear Hey, sorry for the slow reply. I don't have lolreplays installed... I should probably get it huh? As for steps, it was just a simple 1v1 fight, creeps around. We're fighting it out, I get low, hit R before my life runs out. I hear the scream / shout that he makes when he triggers the ult. I keep getting damaged, about a second later (well before the duration expires, and long enough after I pressed R to know that I definitely activated it), she uses her R and I just straight up die. Let me know if there's anything else that you can think of that I need to provide. It only happened once during the game, so at least it wasn't an ongoing thing. Not terribly helpful because all I know is that you used R in a teamfight and died. I've seen Trynds use R and not die so I don't really know what the cause was. Maybe just been your ult duration expiring? Also, Happy Birthday Unichan! EDIT: And what is this I read on Reddit about TSM and CLG creating a gaming house together?
Definitely wasn't ult expiring or not triggering. it was right in the middle of duratino. But I've got no replays and really nothing else more to help troubleshoot it (it was a 1v1 fight, but that makes no difference. And it didn't happen against for the rest of the match, so no idea what it takes to reproduce it).
Iunno, maybe it'll happen again to someone who has replays. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
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has the jungle been hotfixed? does anyone know the new figures for gold/exp?
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On December 01 2011 01:59 MoonBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 00:14 Dgiese wrote:On November 30 2011 09:43 MoonBear wrote:
Re Trynd Bug: Can you give me steps to reproduce it? Or have a replay? I'll need to be able to see what happened.
Re Red Buff: Spells that apply direct damage will apply red buff. SaintV Jungle Annie about to get even more terror. Confirmed. @ moonbear Hey, sorry for the slow reply. I don't have lolreplays installed... I should probably get it huh? As for steps, it was just a simple 1v1 fight, creeps around. We're fighting it out, I get low, hit R before my life runs out. I hear the scream / shout that he makes when he triggers the ult. I keep getting damaged, about a second later (well before the duration expires, and long enough after I pressed R to know that I definitely activated it), she uses her R and I just straight up die. Let me know if there's anything else that you can think of that I need to provide. It only happened once during the game, so at least it wasn't an ongoing thing. Not terribly helpful because all I know is that you used R in a teamfight and died. I've seen Trynds use R and not die so I don't really know what the cause was. Maybe just been your ult duration expiring? Also, Happy Birthday Unichan! EDIT: And what is this I read on Reddit about TSM and CLG creating a gaming house together?
Tnx ^_^
I always get confused between you and Moonwrath, can't remember if I'm in LoL thread or kpop thread!
LOL that would be #1 gayming house ever. What would happen to Kelly doeee.
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Ok, I just saw something amazing.
The Shaco in my team: goes blue, places some boxes, then leaves. Goes to red, puts boxes, and I'm like... this gonna be special. 1:55, Blue dies to his boxes, he kills red, 2:10 lvl 2 shaco with double buff.
Abuse it while you can!
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On December 01 2011 02:20 -Kato- wrote:
Ok, I just saw something amazing.
The Shaco in my team: goes blue, places some boxes, then leaves. Goes to red, puts boxes, and I'm like... this gonna be special. 1:55, Blue dies to his boxes, he kills red, 2:10 lvl 2 shaco with double buff.
Abuse it while you can!
That explains how that shaco managed to do a level 2 gank with double buffs when I was playing mid. Gotta try that myself since Shaco is my go-to champ whenever I am having a bad losing streak.
Curious how many boxes you would need at blue. I'm going to guess 4.
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Not 100% certain but I believe it's 5 boxes at blue.
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On December 01 2011 02:20 -Kato- wrote:
Ok, I just saw something amazing.
The Shaco in my team: goes blue, places some boxes, then leaves. Goes to red, puts boxes, and I'm like... this gonna be special. 1:55, Blue dies to his boxes, he kills red, 2:10 lvl 2 shaco with double buff.
Abuse it while you can!
With an exp quint you can take down both double buffs and 1 more camp and hit 3. Problem is that you have a camp uncleared. I think the best thing would be to have someone clear out the rest of blue after your boxes take it so that it resets at 7.
And its 4 boxes.
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Oh Shaco, always the jungler with the strangest jungle paths.
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yeah but if they clear the blue camp don't they steal the experience/lose experience from their lane/ let their laning partner get zoned.
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On December 01 2011 02:29 Sabin010 wrote:
yeah but if they clear the blue camp don't they steal the experience/lose experience from their lane/ let their laning partner get zoned.
It probably would take less time than a hard pull on blue. Boxes kill that shit fast now.
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I don't think the delay from the buff respawn would be significant enough for it to be a drawback. Keep in mind that you can alternately place the boxes at red and clear blue yourself, which would delay your red respawn instead, which is not too significant since shaco has a built in slow already.
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On December 01 2011 02:20 -Kato- wrote:
Ok, I just saw something amazing.
The Shaco in my team: goes blue, places some boxes, then leaves. Goes to red, puts boxes, and I'm like... this gonna be special. 1:55, Blue dies to his boxes, he kills red, 2:10 lvl 2 shaco with double buff.
Abuse it while you can!
Be mid or purple top. Go to enemy blue @ 1:55, steal free blue.
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I just kinda had a thought. What if they changed the way exp works so that whoever smites a creep gets that exp and gold, regardless of who kills the minion. That way handing off blue doesnt suck so bad since you get the scaling exp and gold.
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An idea to rectify the issue of early-game jungle farm:
With red buff now applying to spells, double buff AP carry ganks just became one of the scariest things in the game. Consider the possibility of passing off both buffs to your mid AP in the 7-9 minute mark, and have them spend the duration of the buffs absolutely terrorizing the enemy sidelanes, while your jungler cleans up experience and gold middle, catching up on some desperately needed farm.
Also, something to test: does the true damage countdown from Zilean's Time Bomb apply the red buff slow?
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On December 01 2011 02:40 Two_DoWn wrote:
I just kinda had a thought. What if they changed the way exp works so that whoever smites a creep gets that exp and gold, regardless of who kills the minion. That way handing off blue doesnt suck so bad since you get the scaling exp and gold.
Well at least we get the experience from the dragon since we smited it 
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Tribunal is broken I think, gotten the same case 4 times now
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