Wonder if they give US accounts a week long IP boost or whatever is it we got here on EU split.

Might lvl my acc up there then if they do give some, even if ping kinda sucks

Craton

United States17281 Posts

December 12 2011 19:50 GMT

#3963

I'm amused that 19 of Chaox's rune pages are named after fruits, while 1 is named Xpecial.

On December 13 2011 04:45 infinitestory wrote:

Show nested quote +

D:
how do the accounts get partitioned between NA and SA servers if this happens?

I'm sure they'll give information at some point in the future.

On December 13 2011 04:50 daemir wrote:
Wonder if they give US accounts a week long IP boost or whatever is it we got here on EU split.

Might lvl my acc up there then if they do give some, even if ping kinda sucks

Nope.

JackDino

Gabon6219 Posts

December 12 2011 20:08 GMT

#3964

On December 13 2011 04:45 infinitestory wrote:

Show nested quote +

D:
how do the accounts get partitioned between NA and SA servers if this happens?

All the mordekaiser players will be on SA, rest will be on NA.

Azerbaijan

United States660 Posts

December 12 2011 20:19 GMT

#3965

I'm sure many of us are familiar with this thread by now : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=293162

There is a bot boosting the competition's votes and we need more internet manpower. Can we try to get this plugged on some LoL streams/forums? Another huge gaming community helping could be what we need to win; at this rate the bot will overtake us before it ends O.o

Hakker

United States1360 Posts

December 12 2011 20:35 GMT

#3966

So I know this topic has been discussed to death on this thread, but I just saw this post on Reddit,

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n9z2n/the_reason_why_flat_ad_runes_are_now_preferred_to/

Craton

United States17281 Posts

December 12 2011 20:36 GMT

#3967

Do whatever works best for you.

/nipthisshitinthebud

Azerbaijan

United States660 Posts

December 12 2011 20:39 GMT

#3968

Wrong thread

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

December 12 2011 20:41 GMT

#3969

On December 13 2011 05:35 Hakker wrote:
So I know this topic has been discussed to death on this thread, but I just saw this post on Reddit,

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n9z2n/the_reason_why_flat_ad_runes_are_now_preferred_to/

I was under the impression that armpen is still more efficient, even with the 10% mastery.

*sits back and waits for smash to come in and drop some knowledge bombs*

Brees

Marshall Islands3404 Posts

December 12 2011 20:45 GMT

#3970

flat ad quints and armor pen reds unless you are corki or some shit

Morzas

United States387 Posts

December 12 2011 20:52 GMT

#3971

I dropped about 200 Elo due to anger and carelessness. I've come upon what I believe is an epiphany in 1500s-ville: In this world, one must not try to actively outsmart the opponent, but instead you just have to crush them with simple brute force. For example, I first-picked Annie in my most recent game, choosing not to ban Morgana. Sure enough, the enemy team took her because why wouldn't you -- she's banned all the time so you obviously need to pick her, right? Well, I killed her three times in lane, ganked bot constantly and made her a non-factor. First-picking Annie was probably lazy though, I could have FP'd Tryndamere (forgot to ban him, enemy team got him) and swapped for Annie.

Sabin010

United States1892 Posts

December 12 2011 20:54 GMT

#3972

I play a mana per five yellows and blues with ad reds and quints on ezreal for poking you out of lane level 1 harass.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

December 12 2011 20:56 GMT

#3973

Consider the case where you're hitting your run-of-the-mill 150 armor tanky target.

% damage dealt with no ArPen: 1/2.5 = 40%
% damage dealt with 10% ArPen: 1/(1+0.9*1.5) = 42.553%
% damage dealt with 46% ArPen (LW + mastery): 1/(1+0.54*1.5) = 55.2486%

% damage dealt with 15 ArPen: 1/2.35 = 42.553%
% damage dealt with 15 ArPen and 10% ArPen: 1/(1+0.9*1.35) = 45.147% (6.1% damage increase over no flat ArPen)
% damage dealt with 15 ArPen and 46% ArPen: 1/(1+0.54*1.35) = 57.8369% (4.7% damage increase over no flat ArPen)

9 flat AD marks gives you 8.55 AD. This means that pre-LW, it's a superior damage boost against a 150 armor at AD values 140 or lower. Post-LW, this breakeven point moves to 182 AD. As you will most assuredly pass these AD values before your tanky targets pass 150 armor, the math still favors ArPen marks over flat AD.

I shouldn't have to repeat the math for lower-armor targets, because it should be clear that in those cases, flat ArPen is favored much more because at low armor values, it's worth a higher % damage increase.

Shiv.

3534 Posts

December 12 2011 20:57 GMT

#3974

Can someone who did the math on AD reds vs ArP reds PM me their calculations? That'd be neat.

JackDino

Gabon6219 Posts

December 12 2011 20:57 GMT

#3975

Speaking about runes, I've tried out a runepage with critrunes, because I'm poor I only had 10% crit so 14% crit total in lane. I crit a few, only on minions though. In 3 games I didn't get a crit on the enemy champ pre5/6 once. Not really worth the gamble, for me atleast.

AwayFromLife

United States441 Posts

December 12 2011 20:59 GMT

#3976

Lets do this.

Solotop Shen.

Chucking swords, saving whores.

SagaZ

France3460 Posts

December 12 2011 21:20 GMT

#3977

at level 1, flat ad runes do more damage than armpen for foes with over 45 armor.
when your damage scale and you get ad items, armpen gives more damage
when you get last whisper and ad items, armpen gives more damage for foes with under 120 armor, flat ad gives more damage for foes with over that armor.

I guess you just have to chose your runes depending on your game plan...

note that these numbers are not exact and only made for general information

Shiv.

3534 Posts

December 12 2011 21:21 GMT

#3978

On December 13 2011 06:20 SagaZ wrote:
at level 1, flat ad runes do more damage than armpen for foes with over 45 armor.
when your damage scale and you get ad items, armpen gives more damage
when you get last whisper and ad items, armpen gives more damage for foes with under 120 armor, flat ad gives more damage for foes with over that armor.

I guess you just have to chose your runes depending on your game plan...

note that these numbers are not exact and only made for general information

Thanks for the effort, I was aware of most of that, I'm just looking for the exact numbers.
Still, thanks

STS17

United States1817 Posts

December 12 2011 21:39 GMT

#3979

Why doesn't riot create an AP version of wriggles (mostly looking for the proc here, and I don't believe it should give spell vamp). Right now the jungle is dominated by bruiser-type champions or assassins / early gankers (shaco/nocturne) and AP is kinda forced out of the jungle in most cases.

I believe this has a large part to do with their inability to clear the jungle effectively with just their spells since most don't have a highly spammable aoe effect and generally do not want to purchase wriggles. A more caster-friendly version of the item could go a long way towards helping that problem

Moreover, your AP is usually the guy who wants blue and this offers a perfect way of seeing they always have it. It opens up more opportunities for double-AP teams and with the change to redbuff proccing on single target spells their ganks will be extremely scary (promoting more aggression overall since AP champs usually have stronger ganks than AD champs)

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

December 12 2011 21:42 GMT

#3980

Clear speeds would be too erratic. It works out on AD heroes because they autoattack enough times per camp for the proc chance to even out over time. But with AP champs, their cooldowns are such that they'd cast 1 spell per camp. If they proc, they instaclear, and if they don't they have to wait for another round of cooldowns before they can finish the camp.