EPT[Patch 1.0.0.130: Volibear] General Discussion - Page 169
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JackDino
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Carnivorous Sheep
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JackDino
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On December 09 2011 07:40 tobi9999 wrote: Rain Man is ragey on purpose for viewers, and does not actually make that many asshole comments when he's serious. Doublelift on the other hand is nice for the purpose of viewers, but is actually a complete asshole. The first time I watched his stream, I saw Chauster miss headbutt pulve on alistar and he said "Nice one Elementz." Never watched his stream again. I agree. Often people who seem complete dicks are, under their layer, good guys. Other way too, a lot of guys i thought were nice had the most shallow views and had problems whenever anyone attacked their persona, etc. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On December 10 2011 02:48 JackDino wrote: There's not a single champ that can 1v5 anyone unless the other 5 are braindead, regardless of items, this game has no hypercarries. Situationally it can happen. Fed Vayne in the midgame can terrorize, ignored Nasus who just farms for 40+ minutes (though he's not helping his team), fed Kog with good positioning super late game, etc. Long story short, it can happen on certain champions who are in their strongest part of the game (early/mid/late depending), if they have a large amount of kills, and the enemies don't itemize correctly. | ||
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JackDino
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
On December 10 2011 02:48 JackDino wrote: There's not a single champ that can 1v5 anyone unless the other 5 are braindead, regardless of items, this game has no hypercarries. a 4 hour long game with veigar at 10k ap and a perfectly timed w to hit everybody? | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On December 10 2011 02:47 koreasilver wrote: Building ad and "dps" items on ww is so stupid when most of your damage comes from your q. Wit's end is a great item on ww since it increases the damage on your ult and it provides resistance. but building ww as a dps is retarded because you're not making use of how strong his q is, and how it allows you to be tanky as all hell while still doing damage and sustain, instead of just doing damage and dying so much quicker. The fact that you jump right into the enemy with your ult pretty much necessitates that you build tanky especially since you are an initiator. You're not an initiator, you're a follow-up. But still. I don't get why you'd build AD and lifesteal on WW (Wriggles) when most of your damage comes from your Q and your wits end and your sustain comes from your Q and from Aspd. I don't see where AD has a place in this. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Saying it can never happen evernever is a bit presumptuous, as it's situationally (very situationally) possible. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Tyrran
France777 Posts
On December 10 2011 02:48 JackDino wrote: There's not a single champ that can 1v5 anyone unless the other 5 are braindead, regardless of items, this game has no hypercarries. Thats because we dont have the imba items that DotA has. Imagine Tryndamere with BKB ( for non-Dotaer, it gives up to 10 second magic ( and CC) immunity ). Now you know what an hypercarry is. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:28 Sabin010 wrote: give nunu 6 deathcaps and a good bush vs a team with no mr. You still get the debuff  . | ||
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koreasilver
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On December 10 2011 03:01 mr_tolkien wrote: You're not an initiator, you're a follow-up. But still. I don't get why you'd build AD and lifesteal on WW (Wriggles) when most of your damage comes from your Q and your wits end and your sustain comes from your Q and from Aspd. I don't see where AD has a place in this. I still think wriggles is pretty good though, since ww does like everything it gives. Wriggles is just all around too versatile of an item. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:28 Sabin010 wrote: give nunu 6 deathcaps and a good bush vs a team with no mr. EMMMMMMPPPPPIIIIIIIIIIRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 10 2011 02:44 Slayer91 wrote: This is like 5 pages behind but whatever I already told you, you're not a hypercarry if you have 5 survivability items. People are talking about trying to 1v5 with full items and in a real game you can't even beat annie+taric with those items. You rely on your team to set up in a position to take down everybody you don't do everything yourself. Nasus is not a hypercarry because lategame he can easily be focused down before he gets in range if his team doesn't assist. Who the fuck made that arbitrary distinction? Nasus ends with Triforce + 3-4 defensive/support items. There are plenty of hard carries in DotA that can similarly end up with 3+ defensive items and only 1 real damage item. Nobody 1v5s in DotA either except in super pubstompy situations analogous to those where it's possible in LoL. On December 10 2011 03:12 JackDino wrote: I'm saying that there's no such thing as hypercarries, if you are fed/really really farmed sure in some cases you can 1v5, but there's not a single champ that can 1v5 if he has max items when the other team isn't retarded. Singed dies in a 1v5 to ignite/cc aswell the second he gets caught, if you dont'chase him he can't kill you. You can't 1v5 in DotA either, except in situations that are just as ridiculous as those in which you can do so in LoL. | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:26 Tyrran wrote: Thats because we dont have the imba items that DotA has. Imagine Tryndamere with BKB ( for non-Dotaer, it gives up to 10 second magic ( and CC) immunity ). Now you know what an hypercarry is. I suggest all of the people in this thread or in general who play LoL to play dota at some point in time. The idea of a hypercarry is slightly exaggerated. In most cases your teamfights are not 4 people afk in base while 1 person 1v5s their whole team. Its more along the lines of the 5th "hypercarry" has enough farm to kill their team with support. Getting caught in a 1v5 situation is still death in 9 out of 10 cases. | ||
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Seiuchi
United States931 Posts
My fraudulent journey to higher elos gives me so much excitement | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:52 Seiuchi wrote: omg I get to get carried by Locicero playing Mantheon My fraudulent journey to higher elos gives me so much excitement his stream is up right now. everyone should go support him for being 1 of the only pro level lol players who doesnt hurt your head | ||
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