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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On November 30 2011 01:30 gtrsrs wrote: comeback from what? warwick is already like tier 1 solo queue jungler you sound like saint, queue solo then make a plan that will only work against retards and watch it pay off every time : D | ||
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
But who knows, maybe they did buff. Edit: yea its stronger. | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On November 30 2011 02:43 turdburgler wrote: you sound like saint, queue solo then make a plan that will only work against retards and watch it pay off every time : D Except saint does this not only in solo queue:p | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On November 30 2011 02:42 unichan wrote: yes, ap sivir was very unique and they killed that, killing the game who even cares about the jungle changes, changing sivir should be enough for ragequit ap sivir has been dead for months, ever since they changed it a loooong time ago. Used to have a pretty awesome ratio the jungle changes on the other hand are a different story. I'll withold judgement until i see them for myself tho edit: w8 after rereading patch notes, is ricochet not toggle anymore? | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
On November 30 2011 02:40 KillerSOS wrote: I'm curious where all these streams are as well http://solomid.net/streams.php Enjoy! | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
She's almost like an AOE Vayne at this point (minus true damage)... passive speeds her up (and that goes for retreating too!), ult speeds her up too. No true damage, but given her pushing power is still largely intact, not like it matters. | ||
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Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On November 30 2011 02:57 Bwaaaa wrote: NVM The correct way to pull a numbers is to remove all text from your post. | ||
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br0fivE
Canada349 Posts
you cant expect to know whats going to happen just by reading the patch notes | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On November 30 2011 02:46 barbsq wrote: ap sivir has been dead for months, ever since they changed it a loooong time ago. Used to have a pretty awesome ratio the jungle changes on the other hand are a different story. I'll withold judgement until i see them for myself tho edit: w8 after rereading patch notes, is ricochet not toggle anymore? I dunno. If I was in charge of the sivir remake I would have gone with a shorter aa range and stronger w before longer aa and this shitty ass w. Sivir wasnt an ad carry, and sucked when you built her like one. Its the same reason you dont build leona as an ap bruiser. She has part of the required kit, but she sucks balls when you build her like that. So instead you build her as a supergank jungler. Sivir was always a tanky dps who could 1v5 your whole team at 15 minutes with 300 cs. Now she is just another subpar ad carry. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On November 30 2011 03:03 br0fivE wrote: too much rage, why cant people give it a week or 2 to complain? you cant expect to know whats going to happen just by reading the patch notes This is true, people know what's going to happen based on a preview without any numbers at all. | ||
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
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Shifft
Canada1085 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On November 30 2011 03:06 epoc wrote: Killing the jungle camps was never hard. Pre-free pulls blue actually was an obstacle at level 1. You wanna complain about the jungle getting easier, complain about the fact that everyone can do blue now because of the pull mechanics. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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Kyhron
United States945 Posts
On November 30 2011 02:46 barbsq wrote: ap sivir has been dead for months, ever since they changed it a loooong time ago. Used to have a pretty awesome ratio the jungle changes on the other hand are a different story. I'll withold judgement until i see them for myself tho edit: w8 after rereading patch notes, is ricochet not toggle anymore? Its no longer a toggle but has a bonus damage to it and rank one starts with 5 bounces and is actually pretty reasonable mana wise. Shes actually pretty good now that they "fixed" her. Im not gonna go out and say shes amazing or anything but really solid and alot better then she was before | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On November 30 2011 03:03 Two_DoWn wrote: I dunno. If I was in charge of the sivir remake I would have gone with a shorter aa range and stronger w before longer aa and this shitty ass w. Sivir wasnt an ad carry, and sucked when you built her like one. Its the same reason you dont build leona as an ap bruiser. She has part of the required kit, but she sucks balls when you build her like that. So instead you build her as a supergank jungler. Sivir was always a tanky dps who could 1v5 your whole team at 15 minutes with 300 cs. Now she is just another subpar ad carry. not sure how much i agree with this assessment, but i do agree that changing w from toggle to nexthit is a questionable move. Tbh tho, she still might end up being fine, esp if the new w applies bonus dmg to towers like nasus and garen (which i dont see why it wouldnt). I would prob end up going for a more ezreal-esque build with sheen bruta into triforce + thirster and then just sidepush all day just like old sivir used too. These changes really just shore up some of her bot lane weaknesses (being shit range and low mobility). Sure she's worse for solo lane wear, but i think these changes were aimed at making her bot lane (where most sivirs end up going nowadays) better, which i think is the right choice. | ||
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