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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 17:20:53
November 29 2011 17:20 GMT
#281
On November 30 2011 02:13 Craton wrote:
words cannot express my disgust for jungle 0.2

Show nested quote +
How does the gold work in that? You're ahead on cs and levels on Udyr despite going back once, and yet way behind on gold? 0/21/9 with MS quints and boots3 sounds awesome on Udyr.

The later you kill them the more gold they're worth

I prob also subtracted something wrong somewhere.


It just sounds like jungling went from one of the hardest and most rewarding roles in the game to the dumbest in two patches...

You don't have to worry about knowing how to last hit or lane matchups. Now, it sounds like you don't even have to worry about timing camps, jungle paths, counter-jungling and counter-counter-jungling, and hell you're not even expected to gank much anymore. A-moving into a camp then afk'ing while you run there for 7 min sure is hard.

I'm sure it's more complicated than I'm making it sound, but it just seems so stupid that jungling went from one of the most varied and interesting roles to probably the most monotonous one.
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
November 29 2011 17:20 GMT
#282
did baron just 2 shot alkali?
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 29 2011 17:20 GMT
#283
On November 30 2011 02:20 Bwaaaa wrote:
did baron just 2 shot alkali?

WTF DAMAGE?!?!
Cackle™
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1970 Posts
November 29 2011 17:21 GMT
#284
lol. hotshot playing so stupid in this game, i mean, his cs is really good, but apart from that, he was so badly suiciding...WHAT THE FUCK!
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
November 29 2011 17:21 GMT
#285
Ninja baron buff is 2 strong...

600 damage. Lol.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
November 29 2011 17:22 GMT
#286
YA LOL.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 17:23:40
November 29 2011 17:22 GMT
#287
Amumu: Level 7, 611/940 EXP - ~2073 gold earned in 9:45, though some of it's bonus from a Philo. Amumu seems way stronger when he can just get good farm until ganking with second blue (which gives level 6!).
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
November 29 2011 17:23 GMT
#288
On November 30 2011 02:19 Brees wrote:
i thought the same thing, bought skyrim for my younger siblings when I went home and tried it, got bored in 30 mins. not for everyone i guess.

im boutta hit 70 hours on that shit tonight


On November 30 2011 02:20 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 02:13 Craton wrote:
words cannot express my disgust for jungle 0.2

How does the gold work in that? You're ahead on cs and levels on Udyr despite going back once, and yet way behind on gold? 0/21/9 with MS quints and boots3 sounds awesome on Udyr.

The later you kill them the more gold they're worth

I prob also subtracted something wrong somewhere.


It just sounds like jungling went from one of the hardest and most rewarding roles in the game to the dumbest in two patches...

You don't have to worry about knowing how to last hit or lane matchups. Now, it sounds like you don't even have to worry about timing camps, jungle paths, counter-jungling and counter-counter-jungling, and hell you're not even expected to gank much anymore. A-moving into a camp then afk'ing while you run there for 7 min sure is hard.

I'm sure it's more complicated than I'm making it sound, but it just seems so stupid that jungling went from one of the most varied and interesting roles to probably the most monotonous one.

tite that sounds like my style, now i can pick ww and go afk in jungle for 40 minutes and beau can't yell at me for it no more
WW WAE U DONT GANK U LEVEL 6?
stfu i make more mny in the jungle
:)
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 29 2011 17:25 GMT
#289
Hotshot feeding :D
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
November 29 2011 17:26 GMT
#290
Jungle changes are lame
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
November 29 2011 17:29 GMT
#291
Can somebody tell me how much damage melee and ranged minions do at level 1 now? Thanks.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
November 29 2011 17:33 GMT
#292
On November 30 2011 02:20 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 02:13 Craton wrote:
words cannot express my disgust for jungle 0.2

How does the gold work in that? You're ahead on cs and levels on Udyr despite going back once, and yet way behind on gold? 0/21/9 with MS quints and boots3 sounds awesome on Udyr.

The later you kill them the more gold they're worth

I prob also subtracted something wrong somewhere.


It just sounds like jungling went from one of the hardest and most rewarding roles in the game to the dumbest in two patches...

You don't have to worry about knowing how to last hit or lane matchups. Now, it sounds like you don't even have to worry about timing camps, jungle paths, counter-jungling and counter-counter-jungling, and hell you're not even expected to gank much anymore. A-moving into a camp then afk'ing while you run there for 7 min sure is hard.

I'm sure it's more complicated than I'm making it sound, but it just seems so stupid that jungling went from one of the most varied and interesting roles to probably the most monotonous one.

Jungling wasn't difficult. With the respawn timer lengths, you literally had to do nothing in order to not gank a lane after clearing your jungle. You sit there, or you run around in your base. Now you have a choice, keep jungling or go gank.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
November 29 2011 17:33 GMT
#293
On November 30 2011 02:29 Lanzoma wrote:
Can somebody tell me how much damage melee and ranged minions do at level 1 now? Thanks.


Melee: 12
Ranged: 25
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
November 29 2011 17:37 GMT
#294
All the reports from games you're giving (baron 2 shotting akali etc) is that just form streams up on solomid etc or is there something else?
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 29 2011 17:40 GMT
#295
Dayum, the official forums are a maelstrom of hate for the sivir and jungle changes.

Although TBH the sivir changes ARE really stupid. They took a champ that had a unique role and said "NOP SCREWZ YOU SIVIR WE WANTS YOU TO BE BORING AND SUCK AT LE SAME TIME"
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
rigwarl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
November 29 2011 17:40 GMT
#296
I don't see anything in patch notes about Baron doing more damage, so yea. Ninja buff?
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
November 29 2011 17:40 GMT
#297
On November 30 2011 02:37 Promises wrote:
All the reports from games you're giving (baron 2 shotting akali etc) is that just form streams up on solomid etc or is there something else?


I'm curious where all these streams are as well
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 29 2011 17:40 GMT
#298
Probs a bug that happened with the ward change or something knowing riot and their bugs.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 29 2011 17:41 GMT
#299
On November 30 2011 02:33 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 02:20 Sandster wrote:
On November 30 2011 02:13 Craton wrote:
words cannot express my disgust for jungle 0.2

How does the gold work in that? You're ahead on cs and levels on Udyr despite going back once, and yet way behind on gold? 0/21/9 with MS quints and boots3 sounds awesome on Udyr.

The later you kill them the more gold they're worth

I prob also subtracted something wrong somewhere.


It just sounds like jungling went from one of the hardest and most rewarding roles in the game to the dumbest in two patches...

You don't have to worry about knowing how to last hit or lane matchups. Now, it sounds like you don't even have to worry about timing camps, jungle paths, counter-jungling and counter-counter-jungling, and hell you're not even expected to gank much anymore. A-moving into a camp then afk'ing while you run there for 7 min sure is hard.

I'm sure it's more complicated than I'm making it sound, but it just seems so stupid that jungling went from one of the most varied and interesting roles to probably the most monotonous one.

Jungling wasn't difficult. With the respawn timer lengths, you literally had to do nothing in order to not gank a lane after clearing your jungle. You sit there, or you run around in your base. Now you have a choice, keep jungling or go gank.


the only choice I see is to not jungle. simply not worth it. You duo top and zone them for a bit then once you have a comfortable lead after buying one of ya starts clearing jungle and roaming.
Brees on in
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
November 29 2011 17:42 GMT
#300
On November 30 2011 02:40 Two_DoWn wrote:
Dayum, the official forums are a maelstrom of hate for the sivir and jungle changes.

Although TBH the sivir changes ARE really stupid. They took a champ that had a unique role and said "NOP SCREWZ YOU SIVIR WE WANTS YOU TO BE BORING AND SUCK AT LE SAME TIME"

yes, ap sivir was very unique and they killed that, killing the game
who even cares about the jungle changes, changing sivir should be enough for ragequit
:)
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