[Patch 1.0.0.130: Volibear] General Discussion - Page 155

On December 09 2011 02:36 mordek wrote:
Dan Dinh has been going for 24 hr (with a dinner break) and just vowed to play until he wins.

On December 09 2011 02:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
You need to build around Sivir though. Stack CC around her so your team can take adv of her highest DPS out of the ADs.

On December 08 2011 09:51 Ryuu314 wrote:

he's a problem because they kept his mad lategame damage, but gave him free sustain in the form of a massive buff to his Q. Tryn grabs wriggles and is as unmovable from lane as Irelia and scales harder. Tryn wasn't op before remake cause he was easy to bully out of lane. Now it's near impossible.

Not to mention a free 35% crit chance means he can just build up fury, walk up to you, and get crits for an easy lane win every 3rd hit.

On December 09 2011 02:39 Mogwai wrote:

I don't really think she has highest DPS in realistic teamfights. It's just that she's like, twice as fast as the rest of them and has a fucking spell shield and still does very high DPS, lol. But I don't think her damage is really comparable to like, Kog or Vayne's.

On December 09 2011 02:42 Ian Ian Ian wrote:


I dont think the Q was that massive of a buff..He healed more before, and only had to kill/crit 7 times to get it full. Which isnt that much.

And his Q is kind of a double edged sword, if you use it to heal, all of a sudden you become almost useless and can do no damage to anyone at top until you get your rage back. To get rage back you have to auto the creeps, which is hard to do when enemy can jump you because you are no threa without crit. And even if you do farm your rage back up you've likely pushed lane which makes you super susceptible to ganks.

Any form of CC also hard counters tryn, as well as thornmails, since he can literally ONLY do physical damage without his E. Idk.. I don't think he's that op, people just dont play against him right

Also; I don't like going wriggles with tryn. He's supposed to have that massive damage mid-lategame and wriggles just doesn't have that feel. I like building vamp->boots->bf sword personally.

On December 09 2011 02:50 57 Corvette wrote:
OK, so a few pages ago I posted my graves game, and I got critisized for building C&D and then Froz mallet+Atmas.

The Tenacity was in response to the talon buttfucking me every time he got close, I thought if the silence ran out earlier I could get away (and I did).
After that, I didn't really know what to buy, so I thought I would get froz mallet+atmas, knowing I was still pretty squishy. In hindsight, building more HP vs Vayne is kinda pointless, but whatever.

I wasn't really having trouble with their APs, so I didn't build MR (if they focused me properly, I would have gotten MR).

What should I be building after the BT/PD anyways?

On December 09 2011 02:51 Sabin010 wrote:
How is Ghostblade bad on Tryn? You get crits, damage, attack speed, armour pen and cdr? That's like everything he needs.

On December 09 2011 02:16 Haemonculus wrote:

Well obviously late-game farmed trynd will beat just about anyone.

Panth may be one of the only champs that can really prevent him from getting there in the first place.

Who else can really go toe to toe with tryndy? Pirate/Udyr maybe?

On December 09 2011 02:23 Xedat wrote:


Regi played her in IEM tourney and what really made her so strong is the new masteries, I don't know who said it but she was balanced around being able to nearly killing people with on combo and now she can kill a lot more champs with just one combo.
At IEM I think it was Salce actually started only bots against her as it is impossible to sustain against her damage and once she gets a level advantage its even more impossible to farm.

Edit: Just saw that this was talked about last page....I just got up, excuse me.
I have one question though, the last 3 Masteries in the defensive mastery seem pretty bad, is this just my noobish thinking, but even the 10% cc reduction doesn't stat additively with Tenacity or not? So if you get merc threads and you get them with every tanky character, just investing further into an other tree seems better.
If you take long cc like fiddles fear, the 4 seconds are reduced by 35% by merc threads and then by how much by the mastery exactly?

On December 09 2011 02:50 57 Corvette wrote:
OK, so a few pages ago I posted my graves game, and I got critisized for building C&D and then Froz mallet+Atmas.

The Tenacity was in response to the talon buttfucking me every time he got close, I thought if the silence ran out earlier I could get away (and I did).
After that, I didn't really know what to buy, so I thought I would get froz mallet+atmas, knowing I was still pretty squishy. In hindsight, building more HP vs Vayne is kinda pointless, but whatever.

I wasn't really having trouble with their APs, so I didn't build MR (if they focused me properly, I would have gotten MR).

What should I be building after the BT/PD anyways?

On December 09 2011 02:53 Doctorbeat wrote:


LAST WHISPER.

It deserves the full caps. LW is one of the most underrated items in lower ELO games, it's really really good. Ideally you'd have LW before the enemies can build a good amount of armor.

On December 09 2011 02:53 Doctorbeat wrote:


LAST WHISPER.

It deserves the full caps. LW is one of the most underrated items in lower ELO games, it's really really good. Ideally you'd have LW before the enemies can build a good amount of armor.

On December 09 2011 02:51 Sabin010 wrote:
How is Ghostblade bad on Tryn? You get crits, damage, attack speed, armour pen and cdr? That's like everything he needs.

On December 09 2011 02:56 57 Corvette wrote:


Now that I think about it, characters do get armour per level, and just because they don't itemise armour doesn't mean they don't have extra to penetrate.
For the longest time I thought it wasn't worth it until the opponents started to build armour.

@Above, wouldn't that make me pretty squishy until I got my defensive item?

On December 09 2011 02:59 TheKefka wrote:

Because it's unnecessary,at least it feels that way to me.My starting build is boots and wriggles and from there I go for zeal/BF sword.After you finish Phantom dancer as your first big item you can basically catch anyone you want.After that I my BF into either a BC or IE and than you win the game.
The item isn't bad its just idk,mostly I see myself buying BF sword every time over a brutalizer and than it just sends me away from the ghostblade.Maybe I'm doing it wrong.