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If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 06 2011 18:41 GMT
#2601
On December 07 2011 03:01 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 02:50 Caller wrote:
Certain in-Game activity on your account has been found to be in violation of the Summoner’s Code by the Tribunal.

As such, your account will be temporarily suspended until 2011-12-07 08:43:02.

i'm so good that i don't even have to play LoL to get my account banned

I'm prutty sure that the Tribunal system causes a huge delay between action and punishment. Or someone at Riot just was like "today's a good day to ban Caller".


aka tuesday
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 06 2011 18:42 GMT
#2602
Caller gets banned an troll tuesday. Fits.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 06 2011 19:05 GMT
#2603
Just did a 1v4 with riven and came out with over half

lolwat
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 06 2011 19:05 GMT
#2604
Would a rylai be worth it on Shen? I'm trying him on my smurf since I know he's somewhat weak now, and I'm wondering how to make him efficient, appart from obvious atmogs.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
December 06 2011 19:10 GMT
#2605
If Riven is so strong, why haven't she been used that often in tournament play? Or have I not been watching the right matches?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23394 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 19:15:05
December 06 2011 19:11 GMT
#2606
Trinity is the best item on shen in terms damage. I don't always go trinity though I usually just go atmogs first since it's much safer but trinity shen has pretty big burst and the movement speed lets you get off taunts and also the slow helps you chase down people who normally would easily get away.
It felt similar to trinity warwick, nobody does it but it's insanely effective. They are naturally tanky and shens taunt and healing gives him good durability. You better be really farmed to go trinity though because you need to get tank items after that

Rylais is pretty awful on shen he scales badly with AP and its a cost ineffective way of getting hp. The slow is far worse on shen than on most people who get it like cass, brand etc.
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
December 06 2011 19:22 GMT
#2607
On December 07 2011 02:56 Sabin010 wrote:
Get a feel for the burst damage so you're not overkilling by too much.


This is so true with Leblanc. I just played her and its like i always put 1-2 more spells into a kill than i needed. She does surprisingly good burst. Btw why people say she falls of lategame? I didnt get to lategame with her, but as i see she has nice AP ratios, so why isnt so good?
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 19:25:37
December 06 2011 19:25 GMT
#2608
On December 07 2011 04:11 Slayer91 wrote:
Trinity is the best item on shen in terms damage. I don't always go trinity though I usually just go atmogs first since it's much safer but trinity shen has pretty big burst and the movement speed lets you get off taunts and also the slow helps you chase down people who normally would easily get away.
It felt similar to trinity warwick, nobody does it but it's insanely effective. They are naturally tanky and shens taunt and healing gives him good durability. You better be really farmed to go trinity though because you need to get tank items after that

Rylais is pretty awful on shen he scales badly with AP and its a cost ineffective way of getting hp. The slow is far worse on shen than on most people who get it like cass, brand etc.

lol, I love you slayer, we do the same goofy shit. I was just telling neo like 2 days ago that I just play Wriggle's -> Triforce top lane Shen on my smurf and it rapes people.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
December 06 2011 19:28 GMT
#2609
You don't like my weird shit :[ So h8.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 06 2011 19:29 GMT
#2610
On December 07 2011 04:22 shinarit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 02:56 Sabin010 wrote:
Get a feel for the burst damage so you're not overkilling by too much.


This is so true with Leblanc. I just played her and its like i always put 1-2 more spells into a kill than i needed. She does surprisingly good burst. Btw why people say she falls of lategame? I didnt get to lategame with her, but as i see she has nice AP ratios, so why isnt so good?


Because when you have to jump onto an enemy as part of your combo you tend to die. If you ever get silenced as leblanc in late gate you can go get a drink while you wait for respawn for the most part. Leblanc has decent AP ratios, but she's really strong in low man skirmishes instead of 5v5 teamfights.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 06 2011 19:31 GMT
#2611
On December 07 2011 04:10 Ryalnos wrote:
If Riven is so strong, why haven't she been used that often in tournament play? Or have I not been watching the right matches?

EG runs her a lot because Westrice is the best Riven in the game. He just flat dominates people, even at a tourney level.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
December 06 2011 19:38 GMT
#2612
On December 07 2011 04:22 shinarit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 02:56 Sabin010 wrote:
Get a feel for the burst damage so you're not overkilling by too much.


This is so true with Leblanc. I just played her and its like i always put 1-2 more spells into a kill than i needed. She does surprisingly good burst. Btw why people say she falls of lategame? I didnt get to lategame with her, but as i see she has nice AP ratios, so why isnt so good?


I dunno why people say she falls off late game either. She can keep a guy silenced for a full 8 seconds when you get your cdr items, maybe they're just telling people that so less people play her, or they've only reached late game vs a LeBlanc who doesn't get fed. Alot of LeBlancs put a priority on farming champions and ignoring minions in the mid game. I can see anybody falling off late game if they don't get fed or any farm.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
December 06 2011 19:41 GMT
#2613
On December 07 2011 04:29 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 04:22 shinarit wrote:
On December 07 2011 02:56 Sabin010 wrote:
Get a feel for the burst damage so you're not overkilling by too much.


This is so true with Leblanc. I just played her and its like i always put 1-2 more spells into a kill than i needed. She does surprisingly good burst. Btw why people say she falls of lategame? I didnt get to lategame with her, but as i see she has nice AP ratios, so why isnt so good?


Because when you have to jump onto an enemy as part of your combo you tend to die. If you ever get silenced as leblanc in late gate you can go get a drink while you wait for respawn for the most part. Leblanc has decent AP ratios, but she's really strong in low man skirmishes instead of 5v5 teamfights.


You know you're only supposed to jump onto the enemy if they don't have any disables up, but qre or rqe is safer and you still keep the w off cd to escape if need be.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 06 2011 19:42 GMT
#2614
On December 07 2011 04:38 Sabin010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 04:22 shinarit wrote:
On December 07 2011 02:56 Sabin010 wrote:
Get a feel for the burst damage so you're not overkilling by too much.


This is so true with Leblanc. I just played her and its like i always put 1-2 more spells into a kill than i needed. She does surprisingly good burst. Btw why people say she falls of lategame? I didnt get to lategame with her, but as i see she has nice AP ratios, so why isnt so good?


I dunno why people say she falls off late game either. She can keep a guy silenced for a full 8 seconds when you get your cdr items, maybe they're just telling people that so less people play her, or they've only reached late game vs a LeBlanc who doesn't get fed. Alot of LeBlancs put a priority on farming champions and ignoring minions in the mid game. I can see anybody falling off late game if they don't get fed or any farm.

The problem with late game leblanc as opposed to late game Kass, Akali, and Talon is that all of their cc/damage is instantaneous, and you really dont have to worry about chaining stuff together. It becomes a lot harder to hit a full combo when you are no longer the strongest person in the game.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 06 2011 19:43 GMT
#2615
she requires comboing her spells together for max damage and effect and they are, for the most part, single target. this means that in large scale teamfights, she gets boned frequently.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 19:48:21
December 06 2011 19:47 GMT
#2616
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23394 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 19:54:32
December 06 2011 19:50 GMT
#2617
On December 07 2011 04:25 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 04:11 Slayer91 wrote:
Trinity is the best item on shen in terms damage. I don't always go trinity though I usually just go atmogs first since it's much safer but trinity shen has pretty big burst and the movement speed lets you get off taunts and also the slow helps you chase down people who normally would easily get away.
It felt similar to trinity warwick, nobody does it but it's insanely effective. They are naturally tanky and shens taunt and healing gives him good durability. You better be really farmed to go trinity though because you need to get tank items after that

Rylais is pretty awful on shen he scales badly with AP and its a cost ineffective way of getting hp. The slow is far worse on shen than on most people who get it like cass, brand etc.


lol, I love you slayer, we do the same goofy shit. I was just telling neo like 2 days ago that I just play Wriggle's -> Triforce top lane Shen on my smurf and it rapes people.


I swear he'd be so good if they actual gave him a W worth a damn. It's like HEY GUYS GO STACK 4k HP FOR IMBAH 100 EXTRA DMG ON UR PASSIVE and then ur shield is like 2% of your hp for like half your energy use it pls.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 06 2011 19:50 GMT
#2618
On December 07 2011 04:47 Sabin010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 04:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
On December 07 2011 04:38 Sabin010 wrote:
On December 07 2011 04:22 shinarit wrote:
On December 07 2011 02:56 Sabin010 wrote:
Get a feel for the burst damage so you're not overkilling by too much.


This is so true with Leblanc. I just played her and its like i always put 1-2 more spells into a kill than i needed. She does surprisingly good burst. Btw why people say she falls of lategame? I didnt get to lategame with her, but as i see she has nice AP ratios, so why isnt so good?


I dunno why people say she falls off late game either. She can keep a guy silenced for a full 8 seconds when you get your cdr items, maybe they're just telling people that so less people play her, or they've only reached late game vs a LeBlanc who doesn't get fed. Alot of LeBlancs put a priority on farming champions and ignoring minions in the mid game. I can see anybody falling off late game if they don't get fed or any farm.

The problem with late game leblanc as opposed to late game Kass, Akali, and Talon is that all of their cc/damage is instantaneous, and you really dont have to worry about chaining stuff together. It becomes a lot harder to hit a full combo when you are no longer the strongest person in the game.

How is Kass, Akali and Talon's damage instantaneous and leblanc's is not? It takes the same amount of time to face roll the keyboard with all 4 champs.

Kass can combo his 3 spell such that they all hit at exactly the same time. Talon is much the same. Akali takes the longest of the 3, but also has the highest mobility and the ability to use w as a way to survive. And any one of them is capable of switching targets at any time.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
December 06 2011 19:54 GMT
#2619
On December 07 2011 04:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 04:47 Sabin010 wrote:
On December 07 2011 04:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
On December 07 2011 04:38 Sabin010 wrote:
On December 07 2011 04:22 shinarit wrote:
On December 07 2011 02:56 Sabin010 wrote:
Get a feel for the burst damage so you're not overkilling by too much.


This is so true with Leblanc. I just played her and its like i always put 1-2 more spells into a kill than i needed. She does surprisingly good burst. Btw why people say she falls of lategame? I didnt get to lategame with her, but as i see she has nice AP ratios, so why isnt so good?


I dunno why people say she falls off late game either. She can keep a guy silenced for a full 8 seconds when you get your cdr items, maybe they're just telling people that so less people play her, or they've only reached late game vs a LeBlanc who doesn't get fed. Alot of LeBlancs put a priority on farming champions and ignoring minions in the mid game. I can see anybody falling off late game if they don't get fed or any farm.

The problem with late game leblanc as opposed to late game Kass, Akali, and Talon is that all of their cc/damage is instantaneous, and you really dont have to worry about chaining stuff together. It becomes a lot harder to hit a full combo when you are no longer the strongest person in the game.

How is Kass, Akali and Talon's damage instantaneous and leblanc's is not? It takes the same amount of time to face roll the keyboard with all 4 champs.

Kass can combo his 3 spell such that they all hit at exactly the same time. Talon is much the same. Akali takes the longest of the 3, but also has the highest mobility and the ability to use w as a way to survive. And any one of them is capable of switching targets at any time.


LeBlanc is strongest when she can space out her sigils to maximize the silence up time, but you can just dfg-qre and one shot most squishy champs in .2 seconds.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 06 2011 19:57 GMT
#2620
On December 07 2011 04:50 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 04:25 Mogwai wrote:
On December 07 2011 04:11 Slayer91 wrote:
Trinity is the best item on shen in terms damage. I don't always go trinity though I usually just go atmogs first since it's much safer but trinity shen has pretty big burst and the movement speed lets you get off taunts and also the slow helps you chase down people who normally would easily get away.
It felt similar to trinity warwick, nobody does it but it's insanely effective. They are naturally tanky and shens taunt and healing gives him good durability. You better be really farmed to go trinity though because you need to get tank items after that

Rylais is pretty awful on shen he scales badly with AP and its a cost ineffective way of getting hp. The slow is far worse on shen than on most people who get it like cass, brand etc.


lol, I love you slayer, we do the same goofy shit. I was just telling neo like 2 days ago that I just play Wriggle's -> Triforce top lane Shen on my smurf and it rapes people.


I swear he'd be so good if they actual gave him a W worth a damn. It's like HEY GUYS GO STACK 4k HP FOR IMBAH 100 EXTRA DMG ON UR PASSIVE and then ur shield is like 2% of your hp for like half your energy use it pls.

yea, his W is fucking terrible with the rest of his kit. problem is that if you give him a non-passive W, he'll have energy issues, but w/e, I think he's a normal game superstar atm and will be fine once they give him a little look that doesn't involve his fucking AP ratios, LOL.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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