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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On December 06 2011 07:53 Two_DoWn wrote: Huh, random thought. What if they changed wards so that you couldnt drop a ward into brush? Would make ganking bot lane slightly more interesting. garen would be the most fearsome thing in all of LoL | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On December 06 2011 08:06 Two_DoWn wrote: Im trying to think about the downside of changing it so that you couldnt drop a ward into the brush. Easiest way to do that is to just say "is there any reason that you NEED to be able to do it currently." If I cant think of any reason why I need to be able to do it, but the alternative is that it makes the game slightly more interesting (IE more map awareness) it at least isnt a totally stupid idea. With no bush wards Blitz/Leona would be stupidly strong bott. Not to mention Garen. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On December 06 2011 08:28 gtrsrs wrote: on the topic of brilliant design changes i think skillshots should all pass through creeps because i don't see any reason why they shouldn't, and it's not a totally stupid idea! i mean it works with ezreal's essence flux! discuss BLITZCRANK OPOPOPOPOP | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On December 06 2011 08:28 gtrsrs wrote: on the topic of brilliant design changes i think skillshots should all pass through creeps because i don't see any reason why they shouldn't, and it's not a totally stupid idea! i mean it works with ezreal's essence flux! discuss the blitz fotm that would result would be fucking retarded | ||
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Lanzoma
Mexico813 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On December 06 2011 08:37 Lanzoma wrote: Stay classy, forum. 's why im not even getting involved with this one. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On December 06 2011 08:42 Two_DoWn wrote: 's why im not even getting involved with this one. you started it! | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Hey, I had a thought that seemed interesting to me that generated a page of discussion about what were actual vital areas to ward, all of the conclusions of which I agree with. Never once did I say "this is a balance change that should happen." I just asked "what if." Guitar is just trolling. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On December 06 2011 08:44 Craton wrote: Trolling really ought to be moderated here like it is elsewhere. but then where would two_downs get to rant about riot stealing food directly out of starvedshotGG's mouth and get to post his suite des1gn changes? User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
I'm not even sure how that worked out for them. We'd poke, poke, poke, dodge, poke, dodge, poke, poke, miss a dodge, pop-up, ult, fish, dead. Just got picked off one at a time over and over. Jungler couldn't provide pressure to the lane because the other team didn't have a jungle so he was always top helping the 1v2 lane. I still just don't fully understand what happened there. Might just be a one time gimmick but holy cow, dat burst. At like level 11 or so, Blitz full burst combo was like 800+ damage which is like 2/3rds of my health bar as Vayne. Fight in middle, Blitz was hiding in the bush. I gibbed Fizz with an ulti into condemn, then Blitz hook into instant death. Weird game, for sure. EDIT: This was supposed to be in the QQ thread, but I guess I posted to the wrong window. Sorry  | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On December 06 2011 08:44 Craton wrote: Trolling really ought to be moderated here like it is elsewhere. Pretty much | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Things that melee dps needs: gap closer, innate tankiness, innate damage, cc reduction, cc Things volibear has: bad gap closer (45% movespeed buff, only TOWARDS VISIBLE enemies for 4 seconds on 12-8 sec cooldown) poor but good scaling innate tankiness (30% of your health) good innate damage but on either a long cooldown or on autoattacks no cc reduction decent cc on gap closer, still a long cooldown bonus features: good aoe damage good slow but on a long cooldown weak spots: more kiteable than udyr less durable than udyr not significantly more aoe damage than phoenix udyr way less single target damage than tiger udyr jungles slower and lanes worse than udyr chases far worse than udyr ganks worse than udyr teamfights about as well as udyr basically is worse than udyr in pretty much all respects except possibly at chumpin people 1v1 and even then it's close | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On December 06 2011 08:47 Takkara wrote: Sona + Vayne against Blitzcrank + Fizz. I'm not even sure how that worked out for them. We'd poke, poke, poke, dodge, poke, dodge, poke, poke, miss a dodge, pop-up, ult, fish, dead. Just got picked off one at a time over and over. Jungler couldn't provide pressure to the lane because the other team didn't have a jungle so he was always top helping the 1v2 lane. I still just don't fully understand what happened there. Might just be a one time gimmick but holy cow, dat burst. At like level 11 or so, Blitz full burst combo was like 800+ damage which is like 2/3rds of my health bar as Vayne. Fight in middle, Blitz was hiding in the bush. I gibbed Fizz with an ulti into condemn, then Blitz hook into instant death. Weird game, for sure. You want a weird game? Get this. (Not QQ, btw.) A friend invites me to a game, says 'Play AP mid, we're gonna double jungle; we just wrecked some kids.' I figure, sure, why the hell not. I've double jungled before. Shaco extra scary. (Also didn't hurt that this guy is like 1900 Season 1.) So they pick Mao and Rammus as their junglers, I go Xerath. We get into loading screen. Lo and behold: we have two smites, THEY HAVE THREE. What are the fucking chances of that in normal queue? So here we are, double jungle Mao/Rammus going up against Nunu/Trundle (Their Kass took smite too, and three of them had Surge. Think they were trolling but still.) This game was actually one of the most fun I've played in quite a while. We couldn't stop them from constantly jacking or blue (2xSmite + Consume OP, yo.), but our ganks were hella strong. Only reason we lost was Garen losing top 0/5 to an Akali somehow. Builds a Sunfire as his first major item despite 4/5 of enemy team being AP. Whateva. Still had tons of fun that game, roaming and trying to prevent their double jungle ganks while helping with our own. I don't know about you guys, but metagame challenges to me are inherently more exciting. I'm getting real sick of the singlemindedness that goes into AD/Support bot, tanky DPS top, AP mid, jungler. Try to pick anything outside of that, you get yelled at/trolled/ragequits all around. I hope someday the scene evolves into something a little more like DotA (or so I hear) where you can run any number of varying lane combinations/champions. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On December 06 2011 09:04 WaveofShadow wrote: You want a weird game? Get this. (Not QQ, btw.) A friend invites me to a game, says 'Play AP mid, we're gonna double jungle; we just wrecked some kids.' I figure, sure, why the hell not. I've double jungled before. Shaco extra scary. (Also didn't hurt that this guy is like 1900 Season 1.) So they pick Mao and Rammus as their junglers, I go Xerath. We get into loading screen. Lo and behold: we have two smites, THEY HAVE THREE. What are the fucking chances of that in normal queue? So here we are, double jungle Mao/Rammus going up against Nunu/Trundle (Their Kass took smite too, and three of them had Surge. Think they were trolling but still.) This game was actually one of the most fun I've played in quite a while. We couldn't stop them from constantly jacking or blue (2xSmite + Consume OP, yo.), but our ganks were hella strong. Only reason we lost was Garen losing top 0/5 to an Akali somehow. Builds a Sunfire as his first major item despite 4/5 of enemy team being AP. Whateva. Still had tons of fun that game, roaming and trying to prevent their double jungle ganks while helping with our own. I don't know about you guys, but metagame challenges to me are inherently more exciting. I'm getting real sick of the singlemindedness that goes into AD/Support bot, tanky DPS top, AP mid, jungler. Try to pick anything outside of that, you get yelled at/trolled/ragequits all around. I hope someday the scene evolves into something a little more like DotA (or so I hear) where you can run any number of varying lane combinations/champions. You can do that already. You just have to find some friends and stop playing soloQ. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On December 06 2011 09:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Udyr can't flip you behind him and then AoE slow you though! You're telling em you'd rather have Volibear than Singed/Rammus? Huh... | ||
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Lanzoma
Mexico813 Posts
On December 06 2011 09:07 iCanada wrote: You're telling em you'd rather have Volibear than Singed/Rammus? Huh... wat? | ||
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