EPT"Ok,I can try to play smart and really show my skill with someone like anivia.
OR,I can global people down with annie."
Well,that was hard.
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
"Ok,I can try to play smart and really show my skill with someone like anivia. OR,I can global people down with annie." Well,that was hard. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On November 24 2011 02:32 TheKefka wrote: Here's people mentality when choosing what AP to play. "Ok,I can try to play smart and really show my skill with someone like anivia. OR,I can global people down with annie." Well,that was hard. If only all problems in the game could be solved by playing annie.  | ||
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On November 24 2011 02:36 BlackPaladin wrote: If only all problems in the game could be solved by playing annie. What I mean is champions like Annie. Why would you play a Vlad,Swain or anivia when you can play Brand,Xerath,Ryze,Sion,Annie,LeB,Morgana,etc. Sure you can try to catch people with a smartly placed snare or poke people down in the lane little by little and farm farm farm,but hey,who the hell cares when you can one shot people if you catch them with a stun. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On November 24 2011 02:16 wei2coolman wrote: They buffed heal so fucking much, it's actually broken. I love taking it on twitch and eve. I usually good heal/ignite with them. It gives you just enough edge to burst the enemy down. And as being squishies, it turns you into a tank early/mid game. Heal at level 6 before: 260 Heal at level 6 now: 333.5 Heal at level 18 before: 500 Heal at level 18 now: 678.5 It's a decent buff, but I don't think it's that huge. Pretty much lets you survive one extra auto-attack. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
On November 24 2011 02:39 mrgerry wrote: Anivia just doesn't have that many great lanes and solo q is basically win ur lanes --> win the game. At level 6 with blue she gets the you're not taking this tower button. | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
On November 24 2011 02:46 turdburgler wrote: idd. maybe im just complete wrong but orianna just feels like an underwelming annie, why ever play her. she has an okish shield but annies stun is just a better defence. all annies dmg abilites im pretty are better too, and dont require aiming a stupid ball. A good Orianna can zone, slow, and reposition an entire team without ever putting herself in danger. Don't underestimate the utility of her W and R. The stupid ball is what makes her good -- being in two places at once is pretty awesome. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
On November 24 2011 02:46 turdburgler wrote: idd. maybe im just complete wrong but orianna just feels like an underwelming annie, why ever play her. she has an okish shield but annies stun is just a better defence. all annies dmg abilites im pretty are better too, and dont require aiming a stupid ball. This is why annie gets a new skin every 6 weeks, and champions like Soraka have 3. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Hoban
United States1600 Posts
A friend of mine started playing her a lot come new patch. I generally play riven. Once he got her down we learned how to set up the perfect engagements. She is a monster in forest fights because of the tight spaces and her ult. On several occasions we have set up a Orianna ult followed by riven flying in there langing Q, W, and R on their entire team. She may not get kills or do annie-type 100-0 but how she rearranges people is monsterous in good hands. She is highly reliant on team comps too. Running double-ap Orianna+Brand is LoL worthy. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
On November 24 2011 02:40 TheKefka wrote: What I mean is champions like Annie. Why would you play a Vlad,Swain or anivia when you can play Brand,Xerath,Ryze,Sion,Annie,LeB,Morgana,etc. Sure you can try to catch people with a smartly placed snare or poke people down in the lane little by little and farm farm farm,but hey,who the hell cares when you can one shot people if you catch them with a stun. Different roles that fit into team compositions in different ways. The current meta is a really prominent reason why the champions that you mentioned don't get played often in mid. However, Swain is definitely not a weak pick; in fact many high ELO teams pick him regularly because of his ability to sustain and his AoE lockdown. Even Vladimir isn't a bad pick if you have the composition to back it up, the only problem is that he requires mid and he gets wrecked in mid by many champions, but his ultimate lends itself nicely to a large AoE composition, there's no champion who can do what Vladimir does in teamfights with hemoplague. That's really the only solid reason to pick him over other mids though. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On November 24 2011 03:27 ptrpb wrote: Different roles that fit into team compositions in different ways. The current meta is a really prominent reason why the champions that you mentioned don't get played often in mid. However, Swain is definitely not a weak pick; in fact many high ELO teams pick him regularly because of his ability to sustain and his AoE lockdown. Even Vladimir isn't a bad pick if you have the composition to back it up, the only problem is that he requires mid and he gets wrecked in mid by many champions, but his ultimate lends itself nicely to a large AoE composition, there's no champion who can do what Vladimir does in teamfights with hemoplague. That's really the only solid reason to pick him over other mids though. You missed the point of my post but whatever.It has nothing to do with the meta why these champions are not played often and I never said they were back picks. | ||
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
On November 24 2011 02:52 Sabin010 wrote: At level 6 with blue she gets the you're not taking this tower button. Well if you like coming out even in lanes enjoy your farmfest. Overall though Anivia's wall isn't as strong as it used to be considering how many blinks are in the game now and in solo q it's just more beneficial to play the mobile casters or casters with better sustained damage. Anivia's nukes are great upfront but her q cd is quite long and you don't have any way of hitting high priority targets reliably while that enemy kass/annie/swain/ryze etc. is going pewpewpew not giving a fuck. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On November 24 2011 03:15 Two_DoWn wrote: Xerath does everything annie does but better. Better stun, better ult, better range. You basically trase an aoe stun for the ability to do more damage and never die. Yeah, this. I just started playing Xerath, and once I figured out that I needed to level W before E, I discovered just how gay he really can be (and I generally don't even play AP). Zapping people more than a screen away every 4-5 seconds? Yes, please! | ||
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