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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 17:34:12
November 23 2011 17:32 GMT
#1921
Here's people mentality when choosing what AP to play.
"Ok,I can try to play smart and really show my skill with someone like anivia.
OR,I can global people down with annie."
Well,that was hard.

Cackle™
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
November 23 2011 17:34 GMT
#1922
I believe e is better used after the r to slow the guy you pulled out and jump on top of them, but if flash is on CD dash is a good alternative to get the perfect ult off. Just make sure you channel the w, and then go get in the creep wave and barrel the enemy trying to farm. Gragas is one of those op champs, that is a pain in the ass to gank, and if you let him farm the rqe ignite combo is going to 100-0 a squishy before they know what hit them.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 23 2011 17:36 GMT
#1923
On November 24 2011 02:32 TheKefka wrote:
Here's people mentality when choosing what AP to play.
"Ok,I can try to play smart and really show my skill with someone like anivia.
OR,I can global people down with annie."
Well,that was hard.



If only all problems in the game could be solved by playing annie.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
November 23 2011 17:39 GMT
#1924
Anivia just doesn't have that many great lanes and solo q is basically win ur lanes --> win the game.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 17:48:20
November 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#1925
On November 24 2011 02:36 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 02:32 TheKefka wrote:
Here's people mentality when choosing what AP to play.
"Ok,I can try to play smart and really show my skill with someone like anivia.
OR,I can global people down with annie."
Well,that was hard.



If only all problems in the game could be solved by playing annie.

What I mean is champions like Annie.
Why would you play a Vlad,Swain or anivia when you can play Brand,Xerath,Ryze,Sion,Annie,LeB,Morgana,etc.
Sure you can try to catch people with a smartly placed snare or poke people down in the lane little by little and farm farm farm,but hey,who the hell cares when you can one shot people if you catch them with a stun.
Cackle™
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 23 2011 17:46 GMT
#1926
idd. maybe im just complete wrong but orianna just feels like an underwelming annie, why ever play her. she has an okish shield but annies stun is just a better defence. all annies dmg abilites im pretty are better too, and dont require aiming a stupid ball.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
November 23 2011 17:46 GMT
#1927
On November 24 2011 02:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 18:11 Ryuu314 wrote:
what the fuck is up with retards taking heal. am i missing something? did heal suddenly become like #1 summoner spell overnight or something?

They buffed heal so fucking much, it's actually broken. I love taking it on twitch and eve. I usually good heal/ignite with them. It gives you just enough edge to burst the enemy down. And as being squishies, it turns you into a tank early/mid game.


Heal at level 6 before: 260
Heal at level 6 now: 333.5
Heal at level 18 before: 500
Heal at level 18 now: 678.5

It's a decent buff, but I don't think it's that huge. Pretty much lets you survive one extra auto-attack.
I am the Town Medic.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
November 23 2011 17:52 GMT
#1928
On November 24 2011 02:39 mrgerry wrote:
Anivia just doesn't have that many great lanes and solo q is basically win ur lanes --> win the game.

At level 6 with blue she gets the you're not taking this tower button.
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
November 23 2011 17:52 GMT
#1929
On November 24 2011 02:46 turdburgler wrote:
idd. maybe im just complete wrong but orianna just feels like an underwelming annie, why ever play her. she has an okish shield but annies stun is just a better defence. all annies dmg abilites im pretty are better too, and dont require aiming a stupid ball.


A good Orianna can zone, slow, and reposition an entire team without ever putting herself in danger. Don't underestimate the utility of her W and R. The stupid ball is what makes her good -- being in two places at once is pretty awesome.
whole lies with a half smile
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
November 23 2011 18:03 GMT
#1930
On November 24 2011 02:46 turdburgler wrote:
idd. maybe im just complete wrong but orianna just feels like an underwelming annie, why ever play her. she has an okish shield but annies stun is just a better defence. all annies dmg abilites im pretty are better too, and dont require aiming a stupid ball.


This is why annie gets a new skin every 6 weeks, and champions like Soraka have 3.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 23 2011 18:15 GMT
#1931
Xerath does everything annie does but better. Better stun, better ult, better range. You basically trase an aoe stun for the ability to do more damage and never die.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
November 23 2011 18:17 GMT
#1932
On Orianna:

A friend of mine started playing her a lot come new patch. I generally play riven. Once he got her down we learned how to set up the perfect engagements. She is a monster in forest fights because of the tight spaces and her ult. On several occasions we have set up a Orianna ult followed by riven flying in there langing Q, W, and R on their entire team. She may not get kills or do annie-type 100-0 but how she rearranges people is monsterous in good hands. She is highly reliant on team comps too. Running double-ap Orianna+Brand is LoL worthy.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23417 Posts
November 23 2011 18:19 GMT
#1933
I randomly played anivia in free week in ranked 5's and i did lots of stupid shit but I still dominated and found her crazy strong. Intrix on TL.EU played a lot of beast anivia though so I had someone to copy.
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
November 23 2011 18:27 GMT
#1934
On November 24 2011 02:40 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 02:36 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 24 2011 02:32 TheKefka wrote:
Here's people mentality when choosing what AP to play.
"Ok,I can try to play smart and really show my skill with someone like anivia.
OR,I can global people down with annie."
Well,that was hard.



If only all problems in the game could be solved by playing annie.

What I mean is champions like Annie.
Why would you play a Vlad,Swain or anivia when you can play Brand,Xerath,Ryze,Sion,Annie,LeB,Morgana,etc.
Sure you can try to catch people with a smartly placed snare or poke people down in the lane little by little and farm farm farm,but hey,who the hell cares when you can one shot people if you catch them with a stun.

Different roles that fit into team compositions in different ways. The current meta is a really prominent reason why the champions that you mentioned don't get played often in mid. However, Swain is definitely not a weak pick; in fact many high ELO teams pick him regularly because of his ability to sustain and his AoE lockdown. Even Vladimir isn't a bad pick if you have the composition to back it up, the only problem is that he requires mid and he gets wrecked in mid by many champions, but his ultimate lends itself nicely to a large AoE composition, there's no champion who can do what Vladimir does in teamfights with hemoplague. That's really the only solid reason to pick him over other mids though.
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 18:32:53
November 23 2011 18:30 GMT
#1935
On November 24 2011 03:27 ptrpb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 02:40 TheKefka wrote:
On November 24 2011 02:36 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 24 2011 02:32 TheKefka wrote:
Here's people mentality when choosing what AP to play.
"Ok,I can try to play smart and really show my skill with someone like anivia.
OR,I can global people down with annie."
Well,that was hard.



If only all problems in the game could be solved by playing annie.

What I mean is champions like Annie.
Why would you play a Vlad,Swain or anivia when you can play Brand,Xerath,Ryze,Sion,Annie,LeB,Morgana,etc.
Sure you can try to catch people with a smartly placed snare or poke people down in the lane little by little and farm farm farm,but hey,who the hell cares when you can one shot people if you catch them with a stun.

Different roles that fit into team compositions in different ways. The current meta is a really prominent reason why the champions that you mentioned don't get played often in mid. However, Swain is definitely not a weak pick; in fact many high ELO teams pick him regularly because of his ability to sustain and his AoE lockdown. Even Vladimir isn't a bad pick if you have the composition to back it up, the only problem is that he requires mid and he gets wrecked in mid by many champions, but his ultimate lends itself nicely to a large AoE composition, there's no champion who can do what Vladimir does in teamfights with hemoplague. That's really the only solid reason to pick him over other mids though.

You missed the point of my post but whatever.It has nothing to do with the meta why these champions are not played often and I never said they were back picks.
Cackle™
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
November 23 2011 18:41 GMT
#1936
On November 24 2011 02:52 Sabin010 wrote:
At level 6 with blue she gets the you're not taking this tower button.

Well if you like coming out even in lanes enjoy your farmfest. Overall though Anivia's wall isn't as strong as it used to be considering how many blinks are in the game now and in solo q it's just more beneficial to play the mobile casters or casters with better sustained damage. Anivia's nukes are great upfront but her q cd is quite long and you don't have any way of hitting high priority targets reliably while that enemy kass/annie/swain/ryze etc. is going pewpewpew not giving a fuck.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
November 23 2011 18:46 GMT
#1937
anivia can pew pew pew and not give a fuck just as easily as a ryze annie or swain.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 23 2011 18:49 GMT
#1938
No she can't, not against anyone remotely competent anyways.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 18:53:55
November 23 2011 18:52 GMT
#1939
Is there any way to actually stop trynd these days? His early lane is one of the best in the game and after he is farmed he can just cleanse you and go to town. havn't played a game as Trynd where I didn't completly destroy and I havn't played against one that didn't either.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 23 2011 19:05 GMT
#1940
On November 24 2011 03:15 Two_DoWn wrote:
Xerath does everything annie does but better. Better stun, better ult, better range. You basically trase an aoe stun for the ability to do more damage and never die.


Yeah, this. I just started playing Xerath, and once I figured out that I needed to level W before E, I discovered just how gay he really can be (and I generally don't even play AP). Zapping people more than a screen away every 4-5 seconds? Yes, please!
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