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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
November 23 2011 19:17 GMT
#1941
orianna is the best scrub stomper, it's painfully easy to get kills when you outskill your opponent.

and everytime you get a massive gold lead/full mejais you can flash into their base and put the ball where they spawn and 1 shot them there.

i did this when i was 13-0 at 15 minutes and had a full mejais. at 20 minutes when they surrendered I was 37-0 LOL

annie isn't good, she's just by far the easiest champ to play. (imo at least) no matter how long I haven't played her I can always go to her and do relatively good because she's so easy to play.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
November 23 2011 19:33 GMT
#1942
Orianna would be good in solo q if she didn't have so many bad matchups in lane. Same boat as Anivia. If you can make it out of lane phase with good farm and without having your team bent over sideways, her teamfighting presence is boss.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
November 23 2011 19:34 GMT
#1943
I'm liking the +24 gold from kills and assists when I go 21 points into defense tree when I'm jungling. When you end a game 8/x/17 that's an extra 750g, which out does all the passive gold bonus's (ashe e, tf passive, gp q, etc.) Having the choice between it an 1.5% reduced damage I think 750g can give me more than 1.5% reduced damage taken with purchased items.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 23 2011 19:36 GMT
#1944
On November 24 2011 04:34 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I'm liking the +24 gold from kills and assists when I go 21 points into defense tree when I'm jungling. When you end a game 8/x/17 that's an extra 750g, which out does all the passive gold bonus's (ashe e, tf passive, gp q, etc.) Having the choice between it an 1.5% reduced damage I think 750g can give me more than 1.5% reduced damage taken with purchased items.

When you have that kind of score you also are playing at a low elo. For higher elos the mastery is crap.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
November 23 2011 19:39 GMT
#1945
So how does the Ranked Teams work? Do I need 5 people to be able to play games or can I do it with 2/3/4?
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 23 2011 19:43 GMT
#1946
On November 24 2011 04:34 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I'm liking the +24 gold from kills and assists when I go 21 points into defense tree when I'm jungling. When you end a game 8/x/17 that's an extra 750g, which out does all the passive gold bonus's (ashe e, tf passive, gp q, etc.) Having the choice between it an 1.5% reduced damage I think 750g can give me more than 1.5% reduced damage taken with purchased items.

To be fair, Honor Guard is awful. It's worse than the tier 1 armor/mr masteries until you pass like 150 armor/mr. Hardly the benchmark you should use for whether a mastery is worth taking.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 23 2011 19:44 GMT
#1947
I dont get either of the 17 point masteries in defense. They both suck.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
November 23 2011 19:47 GMT
#1948
On November 24 2011 03:52 Hynda wrote:
Is there any way to actually stop trynd these days? His early lane is one of the best in the game and after he is farmed he can just cleanse you and go to town. havn't played a game as Trynd where I didn't completly destroy and I havn't played against one that didn't either.


Never underestimate the power of the scouts code my friend.
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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
November 23 2011 20:04 GMT
#1949
On November 24 2011 04:36 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 04:34 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I'm liking the +24 gold from kills and assists when I go 21 points into defense tree when I'm jungling. When you end a game 8/x/17 that's an extra 750g, which out does all the passive gold bonus's (ashe e, tf passive, gp q, etc.) Having the choice between it an 1.5% reduced damage I think 750g can give me more than 1.5% reduced damage taken with purchased items.

When you have that kind of score you also are playing at a low elo. For higher elos the mastery is crap.

I think you underestimate how impossible it is to not get destroyed in lane by rammus/amumu.

And from loci's and all the other super high elo players they get scores not much different to mine (except the jungles I play snowball like an avalanche).
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
November 23 2011 20:10 GMT
#1950
On November 24 2011 04:47 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 03:52 Hynda wrote:
Is there any way to actually stop trynd these days? His early lane is one of the best in the game and after he is farmed he can just cleanse you and go to town. havn't played a game as Trynd where I didn't completly destroy and I havn't played against one that didn't either.


Never underestimate the power of the scouts code my friend.


Teemo's strength against Tryndamere is overstated, I think. Sure blinding him nullifies him for 2-3 seconds, but so does stunning him or knocking him away. Even with the blind, Tryndamere can still chase and kill Teemo pretty easily.
I am the Town Medic.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
November 23 2011 20:11 GMT
#1951
The point is that Teemo shits on Tryn in lane all day.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
November 23 2011 20:11 GMT
#1952
On November 24 2011 03:52 Hynda wrote:
Is there any way to actually stop trynd these days? His early lane is one of the best in the game and after he is farmed he can just cleanse you and go to town. havn't played a game as Trynd where I didn't completly destroy and I havn't played against one that didn't either.


suppression, teemo, pantheon, chain cc, mobile teams, kiting teams, janna
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 23 2011 20:12 GMT
#1953
So.....since we don't have a thread, Xerath builds, GO!
Loving him since I bought him.
I've beenn going standard caster crap (ring x2, boots, cata, sorcs, RoA, Dcap, etc) but cominng across a Solomid build, I wonder...is Morello's worth it on Xerath?
I didnt really have too many mana issues with regen yellows/Rings but I wonder if the CDR/AP makes the item worth it on Xerath? I know for sure CDR is huge on him but is Blue enough?

Anyone?
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 23 2011 20:17 GMT
#1954
First off, I think its generally a bad idea to get more than 1 ring and a cata. Either get 2-3 drings and a deathcap or a cata and possibly a dring if you cant finish a cata or need something before you hit cata. Cata and dring stack fulfil the same role- you dont need both. If you want a ROA, go straight cata.

That being said, dont go ROA on xerath. He doesnt need it. 2-3 rings into a dcap and void staff is the way to go IMO. You can build pure glass cannon because you shouldnt ever actually get hit by anyone. Same reason you wouldnt rush a phage on Caitlyn. Rely on your positioning as damage mitigation.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17282 Posts
November 23 2011 20:31 GMT
#1955
On November 24 2011 05:11 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 03:52 Hynda wrote:
Is there any way to actually stop trynd these days? His early lane is one of the best in the game and after he is farmed he can just cleanse you and go to town. havn't played a game as Trynd where I didn't completly destroy and I havn't played against one that didn't either.


suppression, teemo, pantheon, chain cc, mobile teams, kiting teams, janna

nah

trynda vs suppression just goes lolqss and kills you, especially if you're malz
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 23 2011 20:32 GMT
#1956
Knowing Guitar, he was probably referring to WW.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
November 23 2011 20:33 GMT
#1957
My Xerath runs morello's/dfg and cdr boots deathcap and void staff. You get so much magic pen from w that you can get more out of maxing cdr and blowing that r in seige mode every chance you get. ghost and flash. I use DFG as guys bring them selves into your range so you can go dfg-e-q step back siege up and wrrr.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 23 2011 20:36 GMT
#1958
On November 24 2011 05:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
First off, I think its generally a bad idea to get more than 1 ring and a cata. Either get 2-3 drings and a deathcap or a cata and possibly a dring if you cant finish a cata or need something before you hit cata. Cata and dring stack fulfil the same role- you dont need both. If you want a ROA, go straight cata.

That being said, dont go ROA on xerath. He doesnt need it. 2-3 rings into a dcap and void staff is the way to go IMO. You can build pure glass cannon because you shouldnt ever actually get hit by anyone. Same reason you wouldnt rush a phage on Caitlyn. Rely on your positioning as damage mitigation.


I'd think that you'd want to add a giant belt (to later build into rylai's) after completing death cap just as an extra insurance policy. This is particularly strong because Xerath is so damned tanky with his passive. He gets up to 120-150 armor just by whoring AP.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 23 2011 20:37 GMT
#1959
I open sorcs, then sell them and trade for cdr boots once I get my void staff. Sorcs are REALLY good early game, and since it isnt guaranteed that you will be in w since the cd is so long, you dont want to count on that passive mpen.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17282 Posts
November 23 2011 20:37 GMT
#1960
On November 24 2011 04:39 Zhiroo wrote:
So how does the Ranked Teams work? Do I need 5 people to be able to play games or can I do it with 2/3/4?

Solo queue: 1-2
Premade team: 5
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