orianna is the best scrub stomper, it's painfully easy to get kills when you outskill your opponent.

and everytime you get a massive gold lead/full mejais you can flash into their base and put the ball where they spawn and 1 shot them there.

i did this when i was 13-0 at 15 minutes and had a full mejais. at 20 minutes when they surrendered I was 37-0 LOL

annie isn't good, she's just by far the easiest champ to play. (imo at least) no matter how long I haven't played her I can always go to her and do relatively good because she's so easy to play.

Lanzoma

Mexico813 Posts

November 23 2011 19:33 GMT

#1942

Orianna would be good in solo q if she didn't have so many bad matchups in lane. Same boat as Anivia. If you can make it out of lane phase with good farm and without having your team bent over sideways, her teamfighting presence is boss.

SnK-Arcbound

United States4423 Posts

November 23 2011 19:34 GMT

#1943

I'm liking the +24 gold from kills and assists when I go 21 points into defense tree when I'm jungling. When you end a game 8/x/17 that's an extra 750g, which out does all the passive gold bonus's (ashe e, tf passive, gp q, etc.) Having the choice between it an 1.5% reduced damage I think 750g can give me more than 1.5% reduced damage taken with purchased items.

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

November 23 2011 19:36 GMT

#1944

On November 24 2011 04:34 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I'm liking the +24 gold from kills and assists when I go 21 points into defense tree when I'm jungling. When you end a game 8/x/17 that's an extra 750g, which out does all the passive gold bonus's (ashe e, tf passive, gp q, etc.) Having the choice between it an 1.5% reduced damage I think 750g can give me more than 1.5% reduced damage taken with purchased items.

When you have that kind of score you also are playing at a low elo. For higher elos the mastery is crap.

Zhiroo

Kosovo2724 Posts

November 23 2011 19:39 GMT

#1945

So how does the Ranked Teams work? Do I need 5 people to be able to play games or can I do it with 2/3/4?

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

November 23 2011 19:43 GMT

#1946

To be fair, Honor Guard is awful. It's worse than the tier 1 armor/mr masteries until you pass like 150 armor/mr. Hardly the benchmark you should use for whether a mastery is worth taking.

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

November 23 2011 19:44 GMT

#1947

I dont get either of the 17 point masteries in defense. They both suck.

Parnage

United States7414 Posts

November 23 2011 19:47 GMT

#1948

On November 24 2011 03:52 Hynda wrote:
Is there any way to actually stop trynd these days? His early lane is one of the best in the game and after he is farmed he can just cleanse you and go to town. havn't played a game as Trynd where I didn't completly destroy and I havn't played against one that didn't either.

Never underestimate the power of the scouts code my friend.

SnK-Arcbound

United States4423 Posts

November 23 2011 20:04 GMT

#1949

On November 24 2011 04:36 spinesheath wrote:

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When you have that kind of score you also are playing at a low elo. For higher elos the mastery is crap.

I think you underestimate how impossible it is to not get destroyed in lane by rammus/amumu.

And from loci's and all the other super high elo players they get scores not much different to mine (except the jungles I play snowball like an avalanche).

Alzadar

Canada5009 Posts

November 23 2011 20:10 GMT

#1950

On November 24 2011 04:47 Parnage wrote:

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Never underestimate the power of the scouts code my friend.

Teemo's strength against Tryndamere is overstated, I think. Sure blinding him nullifies him for 2-3 seconds, but so does stunning him or knocking him away. Even with the blind, Tryndamere can still chase and kill Teemo pretty easily.

dnastyx

United States2707 Posts

November 23 2011 20:11 GMT

#1951

The point is that Teemo shits on Tryn in lane all day.

gtrsrs

United States9109 Posts

November 23 2011 20:11 GMT

#1952

suppression, teemo, pantheon, chain cc, mobile teams, kiting teams, janna

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

November 23 2011 20:12 GMT

#1953

So.....since we don't have a thread, Xerath builds, GO!
Loving him since I bought him.
I've beenn going standard caster crap (ring x2, boots, cata, sorcs, RoA, Dcap, etc) but cominng across a Solomid build, I wonder...is Morello's worth it on Xerath?
I didnt really have too many mana issues with regen yellows/Rings but I wonder if the CDR/AP makes the item worth it on Xerath? I know for sure CDR is huge on him but is Blue enough?

Anyone?

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

November 23 2011 20:17 GMT

#1954

First off, I think its generally a bad idea to get more than 1 ring and a cata. Either get 2-3 drings and a deathcap or a cata and possibly a dring if you cant finish a cata or need something before you hit cata. Cata and dring stack fulfil the same role- you dont need both. If you want a ROA, go straight cata.

That being said, dont go ROA on xerath. He doesnt need it. 2-3 rings into a dcap and void staff is the way to go IMO. You can build pure glass cannon because you shouldnt ever actually get hit by anyone. Same reason you wouldnt rush a phage on Caitlyn. Rely on your positioning as damage mitigation.

Craton

United States17294 Posts

November 23 2011 20:31 GMT

#1955

On November 24 2011 05:11 gtrsrs wrote:

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suppression, teemo, pantheon, chain cc, mobile teams, kiting teams, janna

nah

trynda vs suppression just goes lolqss and kills you, especially if you're malz

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

November 23 2011 20:32 GMT

#1956

Knowing Guitar, he was probably referring to WW.

Sabin010

United States1892 Posts

November 23 2011 20:33 GMT

#1957

My Xerath runs morello's/dfg and cdr boots deathcap and void staff. You get so much magic pen from w that you can get more out of maxing cdr and blowing that r in seige mode every chance you get. ghost and flash. I use DFG as guys bring them selves into your range so you can go dfg-e-q step back siege up and wrrr.

xDaunt

United States17988 Posts

November 23 2011 20:36 GMT

#1958

On November 24 2011 05:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
First off, I think its generally a bad idea to get more than 1 ring and a cata. Either get 2-3 drings and a deathcap or a cata and possibly a dring if you cant finish a cata or need something before you hit cata. Cata and dring stack fulfil the same role- you dont need both. If you want a ROA, go straight cata.

That being said, dont go ROA on xerath. He doesnt need it. 2-3 rings into a dcap and void staff is the way to go IMO. You can build pure glass cannon because you shouldnt ever actually get hit by anyone. Same reason you wouldnt rush a phage on Caitlyn. Rely on your positioning as damage mitigation.

I'd think that you'd want to add a giant belt (to later build into rylai's) after completing death cap just as an extra insurance policy. This is particularly strong because Xerath is so damned tanky with his passive. He gets up to 120-150 armor just by whoring AP.

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

November 23 2011 20:37 GMT

#1959

I open sorcs, then sell them and trade for cdr boots once I get my void staff. Sorcs are REALLY good early game, and since it isnt guaranteed that you will be in w since the cd is so long, you dont want to count on that passive mpen.