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Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
November 22 2011 16:12 GMT
#1681
I find ganking to be difficult in solo queue as I have trouble communicating when we should commit and when we should disengage. Basically, its dependent upon the play style of the laner who's lane you're ganking. I have no problem jungling in arranged 5s because of better communication, but I basically gave up on jungling in solo queue. That said I commit to the gank in my lane 90% of the time unless the counter gank is already shown incoming.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 16:21:42
November 22 2011 16:13 GMT
#1682
On November 23 2011 01:09 Node wrote:
So the next champion is Iorek Byrnison...

I don't know if there's a way I'm not gonna insta-buy that shit.

The only new champ im gonna buy is Ali:

[image loading]


edit. its no Ali, It's gonna be Ari (according to Tencent, which referrals Korean Arirang)
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
November 22 2011 16:15 GMT
#1683
Why does Riot announce these bad ass champions. Then release some not so bad ass champions before they release the Foxy.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
November 22 2011 16:17 GMT
#1684
On November 23 2011 01:12 Sabin010 wrote:
I find ganking to be difficult in solo queue as I have trouble communicating when we should commit and when we should disengage. Basically, its dependent upon the play style of the laner who's lane you're ganking. I have no problem jungling in arranged 5s because of better communication, but I basically gave up on jungling in solo queue. That said I commit to the gank in my lane 90% of the time unless the counter gank is already shown incoming.

playing jungle in soloQ is so dumb

situation: I'm doing red, ashe soraka bot.

me: hey bot, dont push the lane, im gonna gank bot soon
ashe: ok
ashe volleys the creeps, trololol
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 16:19:59
November 22 2011 16:19 GMT
#1685
Early ganking (aka before your first full clear) you do if
A.) The lane is pushed
B.) Summoners have been blown / hp is low
C.) The champion has retarded scaling (aka Nasus)

Some junglers have really strong level 2 ganks (Lee Sin), while others should wait until 3 (Amumu, Rammus) or later. I avoid a level 2 gank if it will impede my ability to clear the jungle. Most junglers can get their full gank arsenal at level 3 and still finish their clear without incident.

As rammus, I might clear blue > wraiths and get a level in w q e, then come around from behind the mid lane to gank whatever is there. This will force either a flash or a kill 95% of the time. However, if the lane is pushed into their tower, you will never accomplish a gank, so you just keep clearing your jungle.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 22 2011 16:20 GMT
#1686
ganking in solo queue is so easy. get level 6 + red, ult on them, acquire kill/assist every time.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 22 2011 16:21 GMT
#1687
Hardest part for me is figuring out when I should let someone else have red and when I should just be like BITCH I'M CARRYING RED IS MINE.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17252 Posts
November 22 2011 16:24 GMT
#1688
i never give red away unless I'm like fiddle or bot AD is beating serious ass
twitch.tv/cratonz
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 22 2011 16:30 GMT
#1689
On November 22 2011 23:03 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 22:59 shinarit wrote:
Also, now we know that being the last pick doesnt mean you have the lowest Elo, its random for 2-5. spots.

False. When I duo queue with a friend with a lower Elo than mine, he is ALWAYS last pick. No random here.

PS : is it me or EU queue is broken atm ?

And him ALWAYS being last pick proves that player 2-4 are higher elo than him how?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 22 2011 16:32 GMT
#1690
TL2 is probably the best out of all those options.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 22 2011 16:48 GMT
#1691
Alternatively you could write TLB backwards.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 22 2011 16:50 GMT
#1692
delicious
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
November 22 2011 16:53 GMT
#1693
On November 23 2011 01:48 Southlight wrote:
Alternatively you could write TLB backwards.

hmmmm just made me hungry ^^
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 22 2011 17:01 GMT
#1694
i just had an interview for air traffic control training fuckkkkkk. what an intense process, im hella nervous now lolol. results in a week!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 22 2011 17:09 GMT
#1695
On November 23 2011 00:58 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 00:40 spinesheath wrote:
On November 23 2011 00:35 Gahlo wrote:
Maybe they should change Scout to extend duration, idk.

I would like that better.
Scout could also increase the HP a ward has (from 3 to 4 lol). Although that might even be too good for a 1 point rank 2 mastery.


Why would you want wards to get stronger???

They should be nerfed like hell D:

With CV being awful now, I think it's fine for wards to be good.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 22 2011 17:09 GMT
#1696
Bears. BEARS WITH ARMOR. Insta-buy.
It's your boy Guzma!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 22 2011 17:10 GMT
#1697
Run Heal/Flash on support. Heal bait team fights all day.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
November 22 2011 17:10 GMT
#1698
On November 22 2011 21:34 TheYango wrote:
How does it make any goddamn sense to award circuit points in events that were invite-only? That just unfairly skews the circuit toward teams that are well known, and get invited based on being known. They already get a shot at more prize monies--we don't need that also skewing what's ostensibly an open competitive circuit.

It's also pretty dodgy to track NA and EU qualification separately, but award points based on standing at events the way they do. Like, SK at IEM Guangzhou and Fnatic at IEM NY had the same placement relative to other European teams (SK beat the other European teams to qualify to go to Guangzhou at all), but Fnatic gets more points for winning IEM NY because IEM Guangzhou had NA/Chinese teams place higher? How well NA/Chinese teams do at events shouldn't affect the relative point values for European teams, especially when the Chinese don't even get their own qualification circuit. Same should be true for NA. Basically WE winning IEM Guangzhou didn't qualify them for anything, while also making CLG and SK's placement worth less, despite the fact that among teams eligible to compete in the Season 2 Circuit, they placed effectively 1st and 2nd.

I get the feeling that yet again, Riot didn't think this one all the way through, and got lazy and copy-pasted a lot of stuff from Season 1.

Good post. Hope you don't mind if I c&p and forward it.
@ESL_Shawn
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 22 2011 17:11 GMT
#1699
On November 23 2011 02:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Run Heal/Flash on support. Heal bait team fights all day.

Run Heal+Exhaust/Ignite. Take the bait and wreck.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
November 22 2011 17:15 GMT
#1700
On November 23 2011 01:19 Craton wrote:
Early ganking (aka before your first full clear) you do if
A.) The lane is pushed
B.) Summoners have been blown / hp is low
C.) The champion has retarded scaling (aka Nasus)

Some junglers have really strong level 2 ganks (Lee Sin), while others should wait until 3 (Amumu, Rammus) or later. I avoid a level 2 gank if it will impede my ability to clear the jungle. Most junglers can get their full gank arsenal at level 3 and still finish their clear without incident.

As rammus, I might clear blue > wraiths and get a level in w q e, then come around from behind the mid lane to gank whatever is there. This will force either a flash or a kill 95% of the time. However, if the lane is pushed into their tower, you will never accomplish a gank, so you just keep clearing your jungle.


This.

When playing as the Moose, I start blue, hit wolves, and if mid is pushed I ping them, sneak behind, Q-E-W, ezpz. At the very least you do a ton of damage and force a blue pill but I get FB like 90% of the time. Then just finish your clear like a baws.

I don't know about other champs though... I really only jungle Rammus.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
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