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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 05 2011 04:43 Skipper240 wrote: I think Ez will get alot more play after these changes. How do you figure? He's already pretty good, do you think the Flash nerf will make his built in Flash that much more appealing? | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On November 05 2011 04:42 JBright wrote: I worry about the redundancy of the new surge summoner and Taric's ultimate if surge is just the mobile version of rally. Maybe it won't affect anything since I don't see it being picked by that many people. Taric's Ult at max level practically gives everyone on your team a Baron Buff (minus the regen). Stacking that means you could have some REALLY scary teamfights. Of course, all theorycraft. On November 05 2011 04:48 Requizen wrote: How do you figure? He's already pretty good, do you think the Flash nerf will make his built in Flash that much more appealing? Mobility is powerful. A Flash nerf would likely make any champion with inbuilt mobility pretty good imoimo. | ||
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 05 2011 04:49 MoonBear wrote: Taric's Ult at max level practically gives everyone on your team a Baron Buff (minus the regen). Stacking that means you could have some REALLY scary teamfights. Of course, all theorycraft. Mobility is powerful. A Flash nerf would likely make any champion with inbuilt mobility pretty good imoimo. Will they be stackable? Or will it be like "unique" flat increase? Like, if Taric ults and then hits Surge, will it be a massive buff, or will you have to chain them? A lot of AD carries have mobility, short of Kog. Trist's is good, it's super high range will be even better with Flash being shorter range. Tumble will be better because Flash may not immediately overtake it, same with Cait's jump. Graves' E is already stupid good with the built in CDR, probably as good or better than Ez's. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35167 Posts
On November 05 2011 04:53 Requizen wrote: ]A lot of AD carries have mobility, short of Kog. Trist's is good, it's super high range will be even better with Flash being shorter range. Tumble will be better because Flash may not immediately overtake it, same with Cait's jump. Graves' E is already stupid good with the built in CDR, probably as good or better than Ez's. Ashe has none. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Ah, yes, also Ashe. However, this is also a buff to Ashe in a sense. Flash kind of lets you "ignore" her slow by just Flashing the distance even though you're slowed, the shorter range makes her slow better for escapes, I'd say. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On November 05 2011 04:53 Requizen wrote: Will they be stackable? Or will it be like "unique" flat increase? Like, if Taric ults and then hits Surge, will it be a massive buff, or will you have to chain them? A lot of AD carries have mobility, short of Kog. Trist's is good, it's super high range will be even better with Flash being shorter range. Tumble will be better because Flash may not immediately overtake it, same with Cait's jump. Graves' E is already stupid good with the built in CDR, probably as good or better than Ez's. It's probably going to be a unique increase. Taric isn't the only person with AoE buffs to team stats btw | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
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Qualm
721 Posts
I'm still wondering why they aren't doing anything to Clarity tho, as it's by far the worse of them all. XD | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 05 2011 05:15 Qualm wrote: Thank god for the incoming SS changes. It's about time. I'm still wondering why they aren't doing anything to Clarity tho, as it's by far the worse of them all. XD IMO Clarity should be % max mana, rather than a flat amount restored. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On November 05 2011 04:55 Chairman Ray wrote: I'm kind of scared of the Flash nerf. I have a good sense of which walls I could flash over and which ones I can't, so hopefully this won't change too much Btw, just something interesting. If you blink into illegal terain (with Ez, Kass, Flash, etc.) the game engine will freak out and push you into the closest possible legal terain. This lets you blink a little further than you should be able to. Dash moves (Rocket Jump, Valk, etc.) don't follow this rule because they count as movement so you just crash into the wall. | ||
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Qualm
721 Posts
On November 05 2011 05:17 TheYango wrote: IMO Clarity should be % max mana, rather than a flat amount restored. Definitely. They could also try adding some other cool effect to it, like having it reduce your cooldowns by a second or something. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On November 05 2011 05:15 Noocta wrote: Back to playing Ez Cleanse ghost like i did in Beta. =] Ezreal wasnt available in beta, he was released well after it ( http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_champions ) udyr was the first champion introduced after LoL went live | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
The only way a nerf to Flash will change AD carry preferences is it might make people play more Ez, Trist, Corki while creating a slight de-emphasis on Kog, Vayne, Cait, maybe Graves (haven't played him, can't comment on him). But this all depends on how much of a range nerf Flash is getting and how big of an increase the CD is going to be. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On November 05 2011 05:25 Phrost wrote: Ezreal wasnt available in beta, he was released well after it ( http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_champions ) udyr was the first champion introduced after LoL went live Yeah, i meant the period in beetwen Beta and Season 1. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
On November 05 2011 05:17 MoonBear wrote: Btw, just something interesting. If you blink into illegal terain (with Ez, Kass, Flash, etc.) the game engine will freak out and push you into the closest possible legal terain. This lets you blink a little further than you should be able to. Dash moves (Rocket Jump, Valk, etc.) don't follow this rule because they count as movement so you just crash into the wall. Is it the closest possible valid point from where you are penetrating collision from? Or is it the closest valid position along a ray starting from where you flashed from, pointing to where you flashed to? I think you always end up along that ray. Maybe I haven't noticed how it works close enough. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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