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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 19:23:15
November 04 2011 19:21 GMT
#1401
On November 05 2011 03:59 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 03:56 Craton wrote:
That's all fine and good until something that 3 shots you is jumping into your face and, oh look, I can't flash far enough away or my flash still has 20 seconds on cd.

Honestly, I'd rather have that. If someone is super overextended in lane and knows that there's 2 mia's, they shouldn't be like "oh lol Flash is up I can attack the turret npnpnpnp". I don't like that get out of jail free feeling to it, and a lot of people feel the same way.


Wards are what allow you to play aggressive in lane. You don't need flash except that there's some seriously crazy jungler gankers like Rammus and Nocturne. I just had flashbacks to the last aggression discussion from half a year ago. Aggressive jungler -> passive laners, passive jungler -> aggressive laners.

Also this quote is messed up, topic moved too fast I can't even find the person I wanted to quote.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
November 04 2011 19:23 GMT
#1402
On November 05 2011 03:58 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 03:56 Craton wrote:
That's all fine and good until something that 3 shots you is jumping into your face and, oh look, I can't flash far enough away or my flash still has 20 seconds on cd.

Thats the point.

It'll be awful for the game though, League of Bruisers so fun. Tanky people are already way too strong in LoL, don't need to nerf squishies even further l0l.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
November 04 2011 19:26 GMT
#1403
On November 05 2011 04:18 bosiddon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 01:08 Phrost wrote:
Riot Game's Tom "Zileas" Cadwell and his presentation from GDC
"Designers are Human Too - Cause of Poor Design Decisions"

http://gdcvault.com/play/1015033/Designers-are-Human-Too-Causes


this is unwatchable

um um um um um um ummmmmmmmmmmmmm

Wat ?
This is very watchable and very interesting. :O
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 04 2011 19:28 GMT
#1404
Well, Udyr is my ranked most played, and the primal skin is the best skin in the game. SOOOOOO.

And craton, primal skin sale starts on monday.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
November 04 2011 19:28 GMT
#1405
On November 05 2011 04:26 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 04:18 bosiddon wrote:
On November 05 2011 01:08 Phrost wrote:
Riot Game's Tom "Zileas" Cadwell and his presentation from GDC
"Designers are Human Too - Cause of Poor Design Decisions"

http://gdcvault.com/play/1015033/Designers-are-Human-Too-Causes


this is unwatchable

um um um um um um ummmmmmmmmmmmmm

Wat ?
This is very watchable and very interesting. :O


Obviously he has never given a presentation in front of a large crowd before
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17249 Posts
November 04 2011 19:28 GMT
#1406
MoMa replacing Wickd on SK
twitch.tv/cratonz
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 04 2011 19:29 GMT
#1407
On November 05 2011 04:28 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 04:26 -Zoda- wrote:
On November 05 2011 04:18 bosiddon wrote:
On November 05 2011 01:08 Phrost wrote:
Riot Game's Tom "Zileas" Cadwell and his presentation from GDC
"Designers are Human Too - Cause of Poor Design Decisions"

http://gdcvault.com/play/1015033/Designers-are-Human-Too-Causes


this is unwatchable

um um um um um um ummmmmmmmmmmmmm

Wat ?
This is very watchable and very interesting. :O


Obviously he has never given a presentation in front of a large crowd before

Game designers are not the best guest speakers in the world it seems.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
November 04 2011 19:32 GMT
#1408
On November 05 2011 04:28 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 04:26 -Zoda- wrote:
On November 05 2011 04:18 bosiddon wrote:
On November 05 2011 01:08 Phrost wrote:
Riot Game's Tom "Zileas" Cadwell and his presentation from GDC
"Designers are Human Too - Cause of Poor Design Decisions"

http://gdcvault.com/play/1015033/Designers-are-Human-Too-Causes


this is unwatchable

um um um um um um ummmmmmmmmmmmmm

Wat ?
This is very watchable and very interesting. :O


Obviously he has never given a presentation in front of a large crowd before

I thought you were speaking about video and audio quality. He's not that bad imo...

Also Primal Udyr on sale might interest me, I wasn't planning to spend money on this game but RP isn't that expensive...
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2011 19:34 GMT
#1409
On November 05 2011 04:32 -Zoda- wrote:
Also Primal Udyr on sale might interest me, I wasn't planning to spend money on this game but RP isn't that expensive...

And so it starts.......
It's your boy Guzma!
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 04 2011 19:36 GMT
#1410
If any of you are applying to Riot for a tech related position (even in Design or Engineering), do PM me.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35141 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 19:38:39
November 04 2011 19:37 GMT
#1411
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/inside-design-summoner-spells-and-season-two

The fuck is Riot thinking? Healing abilities are too strong, too much sustain. Nerf to heals. Meanwhile at R&D: "We should buff heal!"

Tryndamere: I'm ignited? YEAH RIGHT HUEHUEHUE! U mad bro?
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 19:42:07
November 04 2011 19:41 GMT
#1412
On November 05 2011 04:37 Gahlo wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/inside-design-summoner-spells-and-season-two

The fuck is Riot thinking? Healing abilities are too strong, too much sustain. Nerf to heals. Meanwhile at R&D: "We should buff heal!"

The nerf to heals was a nerf to the sustain mechanics involved in the heal-poke siege. That is, cheap spammy heals that allow you to relentlessly siege a tower. This means that the team without a heal is forced to back off because eventually one person will need to pill to go heal which forces a 4v5. That meant all teams were encouraged to run a heal which could then lead to stall wars. In essence, that meant who ever could keep up the heal longest (generally, who runs out of mana faster) would win. That's not appropriate.

Summoner Heal is a long CD one use ability that discourages stacking as after use any further Summoner Heals will be reduced in power for a short duration. So this is unlikely to have those siege heal problems. In fact, it is more geared towards that one time clutch usage in a fight. Currently, it can't do that because the heal is too weak once the game reaches a certain level.

Also, Udyr skin sale. This is interesting. Should I learn Udyr then?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
November 04 2011 19:42 GMT
#1413
I worry about the redundancy of the new surge summoner and Taric's ultimate if surge is just the mobile version of rally. Maybe it won't affect anything since I don't see it being picked by that many people.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
November 04 2011 19:43 GMT
#1414
On November 05 2011 04:32 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 04:28 Phrost wrote:
On November 05 2011 04:26 -Zoda- wrote:
On November 05 2011 04:18 bosiddon wrote:
On November 05 2011 01:08 Phrost wrote:
Riot Game's Tom "Zileas" Cadwell and his presentation from GDC
"Designers are Human Too - Cause of Poor Design Decisions"

http://gdcvault.com/play/1015033/Designers-are-Human-Too-Causes


this is unwatchable

um um um um um um ummmmmmmmmmmmmm

Wat ?
This is very watchable and very interesting. :O


Obviously he has never given a presentation in front of a large crowd before

I thought you were speaking about video and audio quality. He's not that bad imo...

Also Primal Udyr on sale might interest me, I wasn't planning to spend money on this game but RP isn't that expensive...


Eh... he is pretty bad. Well, I guess he's okay considering what he does 24/7. =P



On November 05 2011 04:37 Gahlo wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/inside-design-summoner-spells-and-season-two

The fuck is Riot thinking? Healing abilities are too strong, too much sustain. Nerf to heals. Meanwhile at R&D: "We should buff heal!"

Tryndamere: I'm ignited? YEAH RIGHT HUEHUEHUE! U mad bro?


The ability to cleanse away ignite is pretty sick imo. Think Swain, Irelia, Vlad, WW. =S
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Skipper240
Profile Joined August 2010
140 Posts
November 04 2011 19:43 GMT
#1415
I think Ez will get alot more play after these changes.
TofuFox
Profile Joined November 2010
374 Posts
November 04 2011 19:44 GMT
#1416
So ... any ideas on how to deal with Trynd and the like now that every one of them is going to be running cleanse to get rid of exhaust, other than try and burn through it with more CC? How does Cleanse's CC reduction apply to affects that last longer than 3 seconds - if I stick Wither (5 sec) on someone with Cleanse's reduction up for another second, how long will it last?

The fuck is Riot thinking? Healing abilities are too strong, too much sustain. Nerf to heals. Meanwhile at R&D: "We should buff heal!"


Healing abilities being too strong doesn't mean the Heal summoner wasn't too weak. Did anyone take it past the first few levels?
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
November 04 2011 19:45 GMT
#1417
Flash is being used for mostly aggressive reasons for me these days. Flash to bear paw on udyr for example or Jarvan prison.

I just don't see flash nerfs as changing the problem with the spell. Yes it's annoying but it's the point of the spell to change positioning. Hell I use flash mostly to deal with exhaust. so I can exit the fight to join it after it falls off. I could see many a champion being quite abit weaker if they had to deal with a weaker flash. I'd love to see how popular aoe and counter aoe champs are going to be depending on the distance of flash change.

-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 04 2011 19:45 GMT
#1418
On November 05 2011 04:37 Gahlo wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/inside-design-summoner-spells-and-season-two

The fuck is Riot thinking? Healing abilities are too strong, too much sustain. Nerf to heals. Meanwhile at R&D: "We should buff heal!"

Tryndamere: I'm ignited? YEAH RIGHT HUEHUEHUE! U mad bro?

Summoner heal is never used, won't hurt that much to buff it a little.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
November 04 2011 19:46 GMT
#1419
If it actually scales pretty well in season 2, I'm affraid it could be almost as good as a soraka ult on a 5v5 teamfight...
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
whatsupchan
Profile Joined August 2011
United States61 Posts
November 04 2011 19:48 GMT
#1420
while Cleanse will now remove summoner spell effects such as Ignite and Exhaust.

thank you based god
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