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Use the QQ thread.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 20:33:09
November 04 2011 20:31 GMT
#1441
On November 05 2011 05:29 Ryuu314 wrote:
I'm more worried about how Flash will affect the champs that need flash to initiate like Galio and Annie.


Heh, more like cleanse being good again kills all these champions, at least just as much as the flash nerf imo.

I happen to like cleanse though, I think the skillcap for properly using cleanse is high, or at least much moreso than exhaust
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 04 2011 20:40 GMT
#1442
So much kneejerk on the General Forums.
I'm pretty excited about the changes to be honest...CV was really too powerful, and as far as Flash is concerned a cooldown increase and slight range decrease sound about right. Still very useful but not an 80%-of-the-time get-out-of-jail-free card on every champion. Mobility champions are already very powerful so this may give them a slight edge, but people have to remember they're not removing Flash completely...those escapes will still be there.

If the changes suck, we'll adapt. We (and the rest of the retarded community) always do despite all the whining and whatnot.

Good on Riot not to be afraid to shake things up a bunch. Here's to more incoming Season 2 changes.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 20:47:01
November 04 2011 20:46 GMT
#1443
Well, hopefully all the summoners will eventually be at about the same power level as ignite and I can stop feeling horrible about the fact that they're in the game.

I'm STILL waiting for heal nerfs, they've been trying to nerf heals for well over a year and they've barely done anything to them. You still get full lifesteal and spellvamp off minions, you still have characters with retarded sustain, you still have 200 hp potions for 35 gold, the game is still a farmfest, gg. Hope they do something with that if there's a big S2 push.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2011 20:50 GMT
#1444
If the changes suck, we'll adapt. We (and the rest of the retarded community) always do despite all the whining and whatnot.


Honestly, I'd almost be happy if Flash was overnerfed. Aside from all the things I hate about it, I also want to see different SS brought to games. There's only a few champions that don't insta-pick it. It's a bit sad to watch pro play or load a game of your own and see 10 Flashes. It's pretty predictable. 10 flashes, 2 CVs (supports), 2 Smites, the rest either Exhaust or Ignite. There are only a few champions that go against this, and it's generally just Ghost over Flash or Teleport for split pushing.

I'm looking forward to seeing a load screen and only seeing, like, 4 Flashes.
It's your boy Guzma!
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 04 2011 20:51 GMT
#1445
With summoner changes in mind, run 5 carries all with Cleanse and Heal. Don't need support no more. (/sarcasm)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2011 20:52 GMT
#1446
On November 05 2011 05:51 overt wrote:
With summoner changes in mind, run 5 carries all with Cleanse and Heal. Don't need support no more. (/sarcasm)

Also all mid with Bravery build.
It's your boy Guzma!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 04 2011 21:11 GMT
#1447
Multiple heals doesn't really work that well.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17258 Posts
November 04 2011 21:11 GMT
#1448
There is 0 problem with hp pots. There is only a problem with lifesteal insofar as its significantly something for nothing with non-mana spell vamp and huge amounts of life steal on right clickers.
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 04 2011 21:12 GMT
#1449
On November 05 2011 05:51 overt wrote:
With summoner changes in mind, run 5 carries all with Cleanse and Heal. Don't need support no more. (/sarcasm)

omg imagine a support with a skill to cleanse a teammate!
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17258 Posts
November 04 2011 21:14 GMT
#1450
It's been proposed many times. The only way it could be balanced is a long cd ultimate.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 04 2011 21:17 GMT
#1451
They tried in play test to give Alistar an AoE Cleanse. Did not make it, but who know, perhaps one day.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
November 04 2011 21:22 GMT
#1452
On November 05 2011 06:12 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 05:51 overt wrote:
With summoner changes in mind, run 5 carries all with Cleanse and Heal. Don't need support no more. (/sarcasm)

omg imagine a support with a skill to cleanse a teammate!


Like old Morg? trollolol
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 04 2011 21:27 GMT
#1453
On November 05 2011 06:14 Craton wrote:
It's been proposed many times. The only way it could be balanced is a long cd ultimate.

Or if it had some extra downside for the caster, like if the CC was transferred over or some set CC (like a slow or damage vulnerability).
3.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17258 Posts
November 04 2011 21:53 GMT
#1454
no

transferring the cc would do very little in most situations where you'd be using it
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Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
November 04 2011 21:57 GMT
#1455
On November 05 2011 03:57 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 03:49 Craton wrote:
Flash nerfs going to disproportionately hurt ap carries, imo.

Hypercarries are just going to take cleanse now and rape your squishies, since exhaust was literally the only thing keeping them at bay.

Yeah, Cleanse is going to be viable now, and on things like Jax/Kog/Vayne/Trynd almost mandatory.

Oh jeez Cleanse Xin might be silly.


Cleanse was always viable, just got against Exhaust. I do not think it should remove it completely, but maybe halvethe effects of it.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2011 21:58 GMT
#1456
On November 05 2011 06:53 Craton wrote:
no

transferring the cc would do very little in most situations where you'd be using it

Or maybe it costs a chunk of health. CC wears off, but if it's on someone like Janna or Sona, would you sacrifice a hunk of your HP to remove someone's CC? Or maybe AoE CC?
It's your boy Guzma!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
November 04 2011 21:58 GMT
#1457
Cleanse mundo.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 04 2011 21:59 GMT
#1458
so when is season 2 coming?
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
November 04 2011 21:59 GMT
#1459
cleanse + exhaust = new meta?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
November 04 2011 22:07 GMT
#1460
SK team is whining on Exhaust on stream atm.

«We win the team fight easy go go»
10s later
«... Exhaust... Fucking shit spell»
The legend of Darien lives on
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