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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 25 2011 06:09 GMT
#1701
On October 25 2011 15:03 UniversalSnip wrote:
I don't see the point of renekton. I'm not saying he's bad, I really don't play him, I'm just asking from an outsider's perspective why people pick him. He seems so much worse than irelia at... everything.


Renekton's better in lane than Irelia.

My top two picks for solo brusiers right now is Talon and Renekton.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 25 2011 06:16 GMT
#1702
On October 25 2011 15:06 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 15:06 overt wrote:
On October 25 2011 15:00 Treadmill wrote:
On October 25 2011 14:59 red_ wrote:
On October 25 2011 14:57 Brees wrote:
so I was eating a kiwi this morning


and it got me thinking


renekton is the best champ in the game


So I just finished eating this delicious hamburger and it got me thinking....

Alistar is the tastiest champion in the game.

Don't say that until you've eaten 'gator. Delicious.


True story, aligator is really good. It tastes like a slightly tougher chicken. When I ate it I put ketchup on it and completely forgot I was eating gator after a few bites.


Wait... I thought you said it was really good. If you smothered it in ketchup so you could pretend it's chicken that's not reassuring


I put ketchup on most meats. The thing about eatin' gator is you're both disgusted at yourself and impressed with how manly of a meat you're eating.

Also, all I know about Renekton is that my friend mains him and anytime he plays Renekton he usually carries me.
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 06:17:49
October 25 2011 06:17 GMT
#1703
Holy crap I managed to get 953 AP on Viegar without even having 6 items:
Archangles x 2, cooldown boots, rabadon's and Void staff. I was unsure if I should have got the second Achangles or an Hourglass but I'd maxed the mana on my first tears before converting it so I thought I'd give it a try. Anyone know if you'd get more from an hourglass? Was a lot of hardcore farming that game so I don't know if I can manage to do it again
LOUD NOISES!!!
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
October 25 2011 06:19 GMT
#1704
On October 25 2011 15:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 15:03 UniversalSnip wrote:
I don't see the point of renekton. I'm not saying he's bad, I really don't play him, I'm just asking from an outsider's perspective why people pick him. He seems so much worse than irelia at... everything.


Renekton's better in lane than Irelia.

My top two picks for solo brusiers right now is Talon and Renekton.


I don't get it. Why do people put Talon top? He has the exact same issues someone like panth has.

Yes, they win some top lanes. But why put them top where its full of 21 defense and cloth+5 starts, when you can just put them mid to completely annihilate AP carries?


Every single time I played Talon mid the enemy laneswitches asap.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 25 2011 06:21 GMT
#1705
On October 25 2011 15:17 Lorken wrote:
Holy crap I managed to get 953 AP on Viegar without even having 6 items:
Archangles x 2, cooldown boots, rabadon's and Void staff. I was unsure if I should have got the second Achangles or an Hourglass but I'd maxed the mana on my first tears before converting it so I thought I'd give it a try. Anyone know if you'd get more from an hourglass? Was a lot of hardcore farming that game so I don't know if I can manage to do it again


At the point in the game with a maxed Tear I think a second AA will give you more AP than Hourglass but the utility from Hourglass is a lot better than the extra AP imo.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 25 2011 06:22 GMT
#1706
I never mentioned anything about putting Talon top. He definitely goes mid.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 25 2011 06:27 GMT
#1707
On October 25 2011 15:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 15:03 UniversalSnip wrote:
I don't see the point of renekton. I'm not saying he's bad, I really don't play him, I'm just asking from an outsider's perspective why people pick him. He seems so much worse than irelia at... everything.


Renekton's better in lane than Irelia.

My top two picks for solo brusiers right now is Talon and Renekton.


I don't really see how he's a bruiser either.
Sure you can build him Force of Atmog's but.....why?

He's more of a physical damage Akali, except she has better sustained damage and a better chase. He has better frontloaded burst.
Also shhh...don't tell people not to send Talon top. Too much fun up thar against Nasus/Renek/Irelia/etc.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 06:30:05
October 25 2011 06:28 GMT
#1708
I wouldn't consider him a bruiser. When I think of a bruiser I think of a champ that runs into the enemy team and disrupts them (Irelia and Singed are perfect examples). Talon is an assasin, someone that stays in the back and snipes the carries.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 25 2011 06:42 GMT
#1709
Irelia's a stupid champion. bad ones are so easy to rape, but it feels like it's impossible to lose a lane particularly hard with irelia when you play well and then her mid-late game is fucktardly strong.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 25 2011 06:58 GMT
#1710
On October 25 2011 15:42 Mogwai wrote:
Irelia's a stupid champion. bad ones are so easy to rape, but it feels like it's impossible to lose a lane particularly hard with irelia when you play well and then her mid-late game is fucktardly strong.

and when she gets fed in lane it's gegee~
In the woods, there lurks..
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
October 25 2011 07:23 GMT
#1711
On October 25 2011 15:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 15:03 UniversalSnip wrote:
I don't see the point of renekton. I'm not saying he's bad, I really don't play him, I'm just asking from an outsider's perspective why people pick him. He seems so much worse than irelia at... everything.


Renekton's better in lane than Irelia.

My top two picks for solo brusiers right now is Talon and Renekton.

You're forgetting graves (yes, graves is a fucking bruiser, who the fuck is designing champions at riot?).
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 25 2011 07:26 GMT
#1712
On October 25 2011 16:23 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 15:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 25 2011 15:03 UniversalSnip wrote:
I don't see the point of renekton. I'm not saying he's bad, I really don't play him, I'm just asking from an outsider's perspective why people pick him. He seems so much worse than irelia at... everything.


Renekton's better in lane than Irelia.

My top two picks for solo brusiers right now is Talon and Renekton.

You're forgetting graves (yes, graves is a fucking bruiser, who the fuck is designing champions at riot?).


Feralpony designed both Graves and Rumble. He's apparently good at bruisers that aren't actually bruisers.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
October 25 2011 07:26 GMT
#1713
Guys, I need help. I haven't played Rammus since forever (a dark time before the invention of Lanterns) and I have no idea what the fuck to do anymore. Should I go like mummy and get some gp5 items into full tank? Should I get the Lantern? Help plz, TL!
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 25 2011 07:30 GMT
#1714
Lantern, boots, HoG into 1st counter defensive item, Randuins, Other things that stop you from taking damage.

His jungle is simply too slow now without lantern IMO. Plus he double dips on the damage with his passive .
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
October 25 2011 07:41 GMT
#1715
Based on some recommendations I just bought Shaco. Is this guide still up-to-date?
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=373
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 25 2011 07:42 GMT
#1716
On October 25 2011 16:26 beef42 wrote:
Guys, I need help. I haven't played Rammus since forever (a dark time before the invention of Lanterns) and I have no idea what the fuck to do anymore. Should I go like mummy and get some gp5 items into full tank? Should I get the Lantern? Help plz, TL!

The build saint has been doing is Cloth+5 into boots, philo, hog, shurelias, tank. The philo is actually surprisingly good at keeping you in the jungle because of both the health and mana regen, and rammus with shurelias is just insane since you can just blast straight for the enemy carry.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
October 25 2011 07:47 GMT
#1717
On October 25 2011 16:41 Celial wrote:
Based on some recommendations I just bought Shaco. Is this guide still up-to-date?
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=373

I don't think those runes are up to date, definitely ditch the blues and probably switch around the others, i personally use armor yellows, aspd reds, apen quints, and mr blues, but I use those on everyone because i'm too cheap to buy other runes.

Also, his build is SUPER SUPER offensive, which is obviously his playstyle, but not my personal favorite. I like to get BoM wriggles, then another offensive item (he doesn't mention wits end or youmous, but I usually get one of them) and then go straight to tanking. You don't need 99999 ad to kill the carry, just decieve behind their front line, pop ult and watch them bumble around confused as to how to respond. ezpz!

hf with one of the most fun characters in the game!
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
October 25 2011 07:51 GMT
#1718
On October 25 2011 16:47 sRapers_ValkS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 16:41 Celial wrote:
Based on some recommendations I just bought Shaco. Is this guide still up-to-date?
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=373

I don't think those runes are up to date, definitely ditch the blues and probably switch around the others, i personally use armor yellows, aspd reds, apen quints, and mr blues, but I use those on everyone because i'm too cheap to buy other runes.

Also, his build is SUPER SUPER offensive, which is obviously his playstyle, but not my personal favorite. I like to get BoM wriggles, then another offensive item (he doesn't mention wits end or youmous, but I usually get one of them) and then go straight to tanking. You don't need 99999 ad to kill the carry, just decieve behind their front line, pop ult and watch them bumble around confused as to how to respond. ezpz!

hf with one of the most fun characters in the game!

But isn't Shaco really easy to shut down by just wards?
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 07:56:28
October 25 2011 07:54 GMT
#1719
On October 25 2011 16:26 beef42 wrote:
Guys, I need help. I haven't played Rammus since forever (a dark time before the invention of Lanterns) and I have no idea what the fuck to do anymore. Should I go like mummy and get some gp5 items into full tank? Should I get the Lantern? Help plz, TL!

P-dancer #1 rammus item, really, look for the miniguide slayer91 posted on forums, es so good.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=265340&currentpage=210#4184
This is the one.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
October 25 2011 08:16 GMT
#1720
Talon is unquestionably an assassin, not a bruiser.
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