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billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
October 25 2011 05:49 GMT
#1681
On October 25 2011 12:56 STS17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 12:07 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 25 2011 12:04 HazMat wrote:
what I meant to say is WW needs ghost to gank pre-6, which means he's shit. Obv you need to run Flash on him.


i strongly disagree
i mean i don't really watch high elo streams or tourneys so i can't provide any anecdotal evidence
but warwick can provide a huge 1v1 boost with his W from extremely far away and ww with red is very scary. he has a hard time closing the gap but come on, that's ONE gank. after you hit 6 there is literally no jungler stronger. and i would put money on ww winning a 1v1 with most junglers too thanks to imba Q, so if you catch someone in the jungle it's lights out

and i am happy to post my stats with ww to prove my point but ofc i will just be laughed at



I have to agree with gtr here. WW is one of the strongest junglers in the game. Pre-6 his ganks are so-so but as long as your lanes are aware of this and don't extend too far then the ganks from your opponent's jungler are a giant waste of time unless they want to try diving a tower at such a low level.

Once you hit 6 you can completely shut down a lane (or two) every 60 seconds and literally carry your team to victory. You scale extremely well into the late game (whoever said you don't is retarded) because your W provides an excellent steroid for your team to push and for your ADs in teamfights and your Q scales off your opponent's health. You can initiate extremely well, forcing your opponent's to dedicate CC on you instead of your carry, or use your ult to lock down a particularly threatening opponent for a good duration.


noo..don't use ww's ult to initiate unless you're ganking or someone in their team is out of position. instead, save your ult to stun a nuker like annie or brand during a team fight. of course, if annie is in front of their team to drop her spells, get ready to initiate
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 05:50:45
October 25 2011 05:50 GMT
#1682
On October 25 2011 14:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
Stop fuck trolling before I start throwing out bans.

I'm kind of interested. Unlike that stupid woman's rights discussion this one relates to every day life.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 25 2011 05:50 GMT
#1683
On October 25 2011 14:49 billy5000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 12:56 STS17 wrote:
On October 25 2011 12:07 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 25 2011 12:04 HazMat wrote:
what I meant to say is WW needs ghost to gank pre-6, which means he's shit. Obv you need to run Flash on him.


i strongly disagree
i mean i don't really watch high elo streams or tourneys so i can't provide any anecdotal evidence
but warwick can provide a huge 1v1 boost with his W from extremely far away and ww with red is very scary. he has a hard time closing the gap but come on, that's ONE gank. after you hit 6 there is literally no jungler stronger. and i would put money on ww winning a 1v1 with most junglers too thanks to imba Q, so if you catch someone in the jungle it's lights out

and i am happy to post my stats with ww to prove my point but ofc i will just be laughed at



I have to agree with gtr here. WW is one of the strongest junglers in the game. Pre-6 his ganks are so-so but as long as your lanes are aware of this and don't extend too far then the ganks from your opponent's jungler are a giant waste of time unless they want to try diving a tower at such a low level.

Once you hit 6 you can completely shut down a lane (or two) every 60 seconds and literally carry your team to victory. You scale extremely well into the late game (whoever said you don't is retarded) because your W provides an excellent steroid for your team to push and for your ADs in teamfights and your Q scales off your opponent's health. You can initiate extremely well, forcing your opponent's to dedicate CC on you instead of your carry, or use your ult to lock down a particularly threatening opponent for a good duration.


noo..don't use ww's ult to initiate unless you're ganking or someone in their team is out of position. instead, save your ult to stun a nuker like annie or brand during a team fight. of course, if annie is in front of their team to drop her spells, get ready to initiate


billy5000 is definitely on to something here. I would ban annie so this doesn't happen.
Brees on in
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
October 25 2011 05:52 GMT
#1684
I will defend my favorite series to the death, but in order to stop derailing as per Neo's requests, I will bring this to PM.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 25 2011 05:54 GMT
#1685
On October 25 2011 14:47 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 14:45 Cixah wrote:
I'm not sure who to give credit to this derailment. Guitar for baiting haters or to brees for bringing twilight to the General Discussion thread.



i think i'm the biggest celebrity on the LoL subforum
no matter what i post or how i back it up, i will get minimum 3 people personally attacking me
feels good man

I think everyone is just in awe as to how you can get permabanned, unbanned, and then post 100% full retard obviously troll bait posts and stay unbanned.

And well Twilight discussions can get pretty heated.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 25 2011 05:55 GMT
#1686
On October 25 2011 14:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
Stop fuck trolling before I start throwing out bans.


Seriously, I'm sick of all these spoilers.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 25 2011 05:55 GMT
#1687
On October 25 2011 14:55 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 14:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
Stop fuck trolling before I start throwing out bans.


Seriously, I'm sick of all these spoilers.

LOL
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 25 2011 05:56 GMT
#1688
On October 25 2011 14:55 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 14:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
Stop fuck trolling before I start throwing out bans.


Seriously, I'm sick of all these spoilers.

It's been almost 4 years. You have no one to blame but yourself.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 05:56:57
October 25 2011 05:56 GMT
#1689
jiji trolling all of his viewers by having THIS AWFUL THING playing during the entire game.

Annnnndddd he turns it off as soon as I make a post about it.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 25 2011 05:57 GMT
#1690
so I was eating a kiwi this morning


and it got me thinking


renekton is the best champ in the game
Brees on in
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 25 2011 05:59 GMT
#1691
On October 25 2011 14:57 Brees wrote:
so I was eating a kiwi this morning


and it got me thinking


renekton is the best champ in the game


So I just finished eating this delicious hamburger and it got me thinking....

Alistar is the tastiest champion in the game.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
October 25 2011 05:59 GMT
#1692
On October 25 2011 14:50 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 14:49 billy5000 wrote:
On October 25 2011 12:56 STS17 wrote:
On October 25 2011 12:07 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 25 2011 12:04 HazMat wrote:
what I meant to say is WW needs ghost to gank pre-6, which means he's shit. Obv you need to run Flash on him.


i strongly disagree
i mean i don't really watch high elo streams or tourneys so i can't provide any anecdotal evidence
but warwick can provide a huge 1v1 boost with his W from extremely far away and ww with red is very scary. he has a hard time closing the gap but come on, that's ONE gank. after you hit 6 there is literally no jungler stronger. and i would put money on ww winning a 1v1 with most junglers too thanks to imba Q, so if you catch someone in the jungle it's lights out

and i am happy to post my stats with ww to prove my point but ofc i will just be laughed at



I have to agree with gtr here. WW is one of the strongest junglers in the game. Pre-6 his ganks are so-so but as long as your lanes are aware of this and don't extend too far then the ganks from your opponent's jungler are a giant waste of time unless they want to try diving a tower at such a low level.

Once you hit 6 you can completely shut down a lane (or two) every 60 seconds and literally carry your team to victory. You scale extremely well into the late game (whoever said you don't is retarded) because your W provides an excellent steroid for your team to push and for your ADs in teamfights and your Q scales off your opponent's health. You can initiate extremely well, forcing your opponent's to dedicate CC on you instead of your carry, or use your ult to lock down a particularly threatening opponent for a good duration.


noo..don't use ww's ult to initiate unless you're ganking or someone in their team is out of position. instead, save your ult to stun a nuker like annie or brand during a team fight. of course, if annie is in front of their team to drop her spells, get ready to initiate


billy5000 is definitely on to something here. I would ban annie so this doesn't happen.


sorry for elaborating the fact that ww's ult isn't a pure initiator, which most beginners almost always would do. specifically, i'm just trying to draw a line between ww's ult and amumu's ult. the most frustrating thing i see ww's do is initiate on their carry and get shit on in a sec by someone like annie. sure, she wasted her spells on you, but by the time your team tries to catch up to your corpse, their team (if smart) can simply fall back until cd's are back up. you'd think most ww's would know this by 1500 elo..
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 06:02:59
October 25 2011 05:59 GMT
#1693
On October 25 2011 14:57 Brees wrote:
so I was eating a kiwi this morning


and it got me thinking


renekton is the best champ in the game


he is okay top, he has come into prominence when voyboy started to stream him after mlg raleigh.

if your facing renekton be sure to start cloth 5 pot , or if you start 3 pot boots, purchase a Chain vest on your first back, and proceed to go back into lane with 90 armor and laugh at him.

also he is have this nice avatar


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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 06:03:29
October 25 2011 05:59 GMT
#1694
Hmm... I consider my WW pretty boss, too (75%ish with around 1700 high in S1) and I'm running a different (though prolly outdated) runesetup compared to gtr. Hell, I usually run ww 16/0/14 most of the time.

Random sidenote: neglecting the MS component WW W (huehue) is about 25% more efficient in terms of stats than GPs E. Not to mention WW's CD is lower on higher levels.

I honestly think you guys are underestimating him in this discussion. Literally the only jungle I'm afraid to play against in a competetive setting is Udyr, cause he can just clear camps so much quicker that I'm busy not getting my shit stolen all day.


also wtf is wrong with you people shitting all over gtr and then blaming him again when he fights back. >_>


PS: This is seriously pissing me off. 3-4 people disagree with someone who's not even flaming or trolling and decide to spam 1-2 pages after they didn't want to bother to argue anymore so the original topic gets stomped and they can circlejerk each other with their victory. sigh. Neo, halp. :/
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 06:01:37
October 25 2011 06:00 GMT
#1695
On October 25 2011 14:59 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 14:57 Brees wrote:
so I was eating a kiwi this morning


and it got me thinking


renekton is the best champ in the game


So I just finished eating this delicious hamburger and it got me thinking....

Alistar is the tastiest champion in the game.

Don't say that until you've eaten 'gator. Delicious.

Edit: this whole discussion is fascinating. On a serious note, I was under the impression that Nocturne, Lee Sin, Gangplank, and Udyr were generally acknowledged as the top tier of junglers, at least in competitive play. Is this wrong?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 06:03:52
October 25 2011 06:03 GMT
#1696
I don't see the point of renekton. I'm not saying he's bad, I really don't play him, I'm just asking from an outsider's perspective why people pick him. He seems so much worse than irelia at... everything.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 25 2011 06:06 GMT
#1697
On October 25 2011 15:00 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 14:59 red_ wrote:
On October 25 2011 14:57 Brees wrote:
so I was eating a kiwi this morning


and it got me thinking


renekton is the best champ in the game


So I just finished eating this delicious hamburger and it got me thinking....

Alistar is the tastiest champion in the game.

Don't say that until you've eaten 'gator. Delicious.


True story, aligator is really good. It tastes like a slightly tougher chicken. When I ate it I put ketchup on it and completely forgot I was eating gator after a few bites.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 25 2011 06:06 GMT
#1698
On October 25 2011 15:06 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 15:00 Treadmill wrote:
On October 25 2011 14:59 red_ wrote:
On October 25 2011 14:57 Brees wrote:
so I was eating a kiwi this morning


and it got me thinking


renekton is the best champ in the game


So I just finished eating this delicious hamburger and it got me thinking....

Alistar is the tastiest champion in the game.

Don't say that until you've eaten 'gator. Delicious.


True story, aligator is really good. It tastes like a slightly tougher chicken. When I ate it I put ketchup on it and completely forgot I was eating gator after a few bites.


Wait... I thought you said it was really good. If you smothered it in ketchup so you could pretend it's chicken that's not reassuring
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 25 2011 06:08 GMT
#1699
Yeah alligator is good. Much better than rabbit.
Renekton is also better than Teemo so yeah.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 25 2011 06:08 GMT
#1700
It's a play style thing for Renekton for me. For the life of me, I can't grasp the concept of Irelia. Playing renekton gives me this insanely mobile tanky dps option that I can sit up top with for 15-20 minutes and then proceed to walk around the map and make people scared to leave the fountain.
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