[Patch 1.0.0.127: Graves] General Discussion - Page 84

On October 25 2011 14:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
The simple truth is this: What does ww do?

Answer: he dives in on whatever the high priority target is and locks them down via his ult, then chases them around being a general dick until he dies or his team wins the fight.

This begs another question: what other junglers do this?

Answer: Nocturne, Rammus. Nocturne can do ww's job from a much longer range, and he has a spell shield to prevent getting stunlocked out of his job. Rammus on the other hand cannot dive scott free from range, but he can lock down a carry for much longer, and deal much more damage to the enemy carry. And the best part is is that he does not have to worry about being ccd throughout the entire thing.

Both these jungles are faster and gank better than ww. Not that any of this logic actually matters since guitar is an illogical being bent on sowing discord and mayhem.

On October 25 2011 14:27 gtrsrs wrote:


nocturne is definitely not faster than warwick and nocturne's pre-6 is garbage against anyone good too. i won't argue that rammus is bad, i've been saying rammus is a sleeper for months, but you must consider that you won't be getting carry levels of farm in the jungle, so big expensive defensive items are a lot harder to get. unfortunately all the cheap defensive items favor offensive junglers not tanky junglers

also you're way underestimating and oversimplifying everything. no other jungler has a skill as core to push comps as warwick's W (except arguably pirate's E). no other jungler is as good of a chaser as warwick. no jungler can outduel warwick on even footing except nocturne

On October 25 2011 14:29 Brees wrote:
nevermind changed my mind, werewolves win in twilight so I can see where he is coming from

On October 25 2011 14:32 taLbuk wrote:


what? did you even watch the movies or read the books?

in book 2 you would know that edward's bloodline is especially vulnerable to the werewolve tribes of the southern washington region that jacob belongs to, they have been bullied by them for hundreds of years until it was only the cullens left and now they moved in book 2 so ya... stop spreading things that arnt true

On October 25 2011 14:29 sylverfyre wrote:


How does aegis (the pinnacle of cheap defensive items) favor offensive junglers? I'm not even aware of any aggressive junglers that bother with aegis - just amumu, who is rammus' tank jungler buddy.

On October 25 2011 14:34 Brees wrote:



The novel ends with Bella and Edward at an impasse. they're in a disagreement, and neither is budging. It's a deadlock.

this clearly shows that the werewolves won cuz they aren't making babies. Edward Cullen not man enough

On October 25 2011 14:25 HazMat wrote:

Rammus is 0-2, Trundle 0-3, Nocturne 2-3, Amumu 4-1, Jarvan 8-2, Skarner 11-6.
25-12
The numbers don't add up.

On October 25 2011 14:38 taLbuk wrote:


thank you, but I already know what happened, stephanie meyer specifically said when she was reiterating the final book she couldn't appease all fans of both tribes, in the end she felt the story was best left open ended. Nobody is a winner, in the end the fact edward cant bite her has nothing to do with the influences of jacob, and is purely his decision to leave bella a human

On October 25 2011 14:40 HazMat wrote:
You guys are completely ignoring the fact that Vlad, a vampire, has been shit tier for a couple of months now. Werewolves win okay?

On October 25 2011 14:41 Brees wrote:



was studying at psychology department of moscow university. i was doing two years at once (roughly junior and senior years - yep, was a crazy time =) and teaching ap psychology class for high schoolers (translating it to american realities). my course paper was about time as the primary psychological (human) construct. so in my class, i was playing with different notions of time - why we want spent time as we spend it? is there a time we spent we rather wouldn't (this would be a definition of a psychological symptom incedentally). anyway, i was trying to find an activity for students - so it would produce a biggest time spending with the smallest input (and i wouldn't have to prepare for classes that much =). i was trying to find something that would structure time not by means of outside organization (being in class) or preparation (for example, previous common knowledge as a topic). first i was asking couple of students to make a secret agreement in a hall (about topic they want to discuss), then return to the classroom for others to guess it. and while watching this discussion, i suddenly realised (eureka kinda moment) - that WHO is in agreement is the biggest secret of all.
my students become the first players. then of course student parties in my dormitory - biggest one in moscow - housing thousands of students from different departments. it quickly spread to other departments and dormitories - likely over next summer, through student summer camps. i [have] tried to keep a track of mafia since then - treating it as a natural experiment of a meme spreading. i guess due to its nature (no real prerequists to the game besides being a human - that was the idea of course), the game was spreading pretty fast in russia. in all possible discourses, from bandits and prisons (i have a firsthand accounts) to goverment meetings. and students of course were providing the main drive. i went to a few meetings with students in the us (mit media lab was one of the venues, btw) - and its the same pattern everywhere.

this anecdote shows why in human form, his body heals within seconds, he possesses superhuman strength and speed, has a high durability rate, sharp senses and free running abilities. In werewolf form he can communicate with his werewolf pack telepathically, has enchanced superhuman strength and speed and a substantial size increase. Werewolves teeth can cut through the hard bodies of a vampire with ease. Werewolves do not age if they regularly turn into their wolf form, with Jacob's body physically grown to the equivalent of a 25-year-old in Breaking Dawn. Jacob is the strongest of the pack. Once they begin phasing, a werewolf may "imprint"—a method of finding one's soulmate—on someone, and will act as whatever the imprintee needs, whether it be a protector, a lover, or an older sibling. Jacob imprints on Edward and Bella's daughter Renesmee in Breaking Dawn.

obviously better then edward

On October 25 2011 14:45 Cixah wrote:
I'm not sure who to give credit to this derailment. Guitar for baiting haters or to brees for bringing twilight to the General Discussion thread.

On October 25 2011 14:44 taLbuk wrote:



Are you serious? stephanie meyer did almost NO research into lycan (werewolve) or bloodsucker (vampire) lore, so alot of your premises on the novel have No bearing. You're post seems more anti-pagan if you ask me. We are talking about actual native american lore, Jacob being 25 had nothing to do with his imprint over Bella, it was PURELY edwards decision to leave bella in her human shell.

On October 25 2011 14:47 gtrsrs wrote:



i think i'm the biggest celebrity on the LoL subforum
no matter what i post or how i back it up, i will get minimum 3 people personally attacking me
feels good man