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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
proof below lee sin gangplank amumu skarner udyr rammus trundle shaco j4 fiddle nocturne | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
In soloQ or low level arranged he's a super beast carry though. | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
On October 25 2011 12:48 Craton wrote: So some updates/story on Dignitas drama:
Do you mean Dignitas here? I haven't been keeping up and the whole thing was really confusing for a second there.  | ||
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
On October 25 2011 13:12 mrgerry wrote: dignitas won the winner's final v CDE, CDE came back from loser's bracket final so they had to fight down a set. http://www.own3d.tv/SoloMid#/watch/246009 | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On October 25 2011 13:22 Brees wrote: lol when is the last time you've seen warwick in a competitive game jungling? hes not even a top 11 jungler. proof below lee sin gangplank amumu skarner udyr rammus trundle shaco j4 fiddle nocturne wow, amazing proof! | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On October 25 2011 13:22 Brees wrote: lol when is the last time you've seen warwick in a competitive game jungling? hes not even a top 11 jungler. proof below lee sin gangplank amumu skarner udyr rammus trundle shaco j4 fiddle nocturne Whos j4? | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On October 25 2011 13:22 Brees wrote: lol when is the last time you've seen warwick in a competitive game jungling? hes not even a top 11 jungler. proof below lee sin gangplank amumu skarner udyr rammus trundle shaco j4 fiddle nocturne when have you ever seen a SHACO or JARVAN jungle in competitive play? let alone skarner... you see warwick pretty often compared to these guys tbh | ||
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Craton
United States17305 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
id rather have all 11 of those then ww on my team. and jarvan is actually seen in competitive games 0o def seen him jungled before. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On October 25 2011 13:42 Brees wrote: well you mentioned warwick so I thought we were talking about solo q. id rather have all 11 of those then ww on my team. and jarvan is actually seen in competitive games 0o def seen him jungled before. you probably just don't know how to play him \o/ ![[image loading]](http://i56.tinypic.com/szwrvo.jpg) | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On October 25 2011 13:45 gtrsrs wrote: you probably just don't know how to play him \o/ Teach me. I need a new jungler that isn't udyr. I can only go bearplane spec so many times. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
if you can maintain that win percentage you should be able to get to 2k maining him emirite? | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On October 25 2011 13:49 Brees wrote: its hard running up stats in 5s arranged i hear if you can maintain that win percentage you should be able to get to 2k maining him emirite? QFT My Lee Sin is 20-3, only half of those games are solo queue and all 3 of those losses are solo queue. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On October 25 2011 13:49 Brees wrote: its hard running up stats in 5s arranged i hear if you can maintain that win percentage you should be able to get to 2k maining him emirite? those are 90% solo queue, i play mostly new junglers in 5s | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
and pretty much all of your junglers have all losses except warwick and jarvan. so you are saying you strictly play jarvan in arranged 5s....and even then it doesnt add up. just please...sit. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Answer: he dives in on whatever the high priority target is and locks them down via his ult, then chases them around being a general dick until he dies or his team wins the fight. This begs another question: what other junglers do this? Answer: Nocturne, Rammus. Nocturne can do ww's job from a much longer range, and he has a spell shield to prevent getting stunlocked out of his job. Rammus on the other hand cannot dive scott free from range, but he can lock down a carry for much longer, and deal much more damage to the enemy carry. And the best part is is that he does not have to worry about being ccd throughout the entire thing. Both these jungles are faster and gank better than ww. Not that any of this logic actually matters since guitar is an illogical being bent on sowing discord and mayhem. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On October 25 2011 13:47 Cixah wrote: Teach me. I need a new jungler that isn't udyr. I can only go bearplane spec so many times. 21/0/9 longsword + pot 2 AD quint 1 MS quint 12 arpen from reds the rest reds are AD armor yellow mr/level blue W first unless you're level 1 fighting. if you're undisturbed, W at 1:35 before big wolf spawns, you'll have enough AS to finish big wolf quickly. have someone leash blue then -> wolves -> wraiths -> red -> golems. finish is about 3:30, depending on leash ofc. then you can either go straight to their wolves and take them or go gank a lane. ganking with ww just means you tell your laner to engage and you come in after the enemy has committed, or you go from the tribrush to the lane. mid is hard to gank pre-6. razer->boots->null mantle x2->wriggle's->wit's end->mercs->tank out. i like frozen heart, force of nature, randuin, GA, etc when you hit 6, you should have your second blue buff (if solo queue), which means that after you ult you'll only have like a 40s cooldown on your ult. you can potentially get off 3 ults before blue buff runs out, which should be 3 garen-teed kills. in teamfights just wait for the initial CC to be blown then jump on their carry. ww ult does like 250 + 42 per hit from wit's so you can take a carry to half with just ult. don't initiate with ult unless someone is out of position you should always use your ult as soon as you can while you're still jungling, then retreat to farm while it's down. hog the first 3 or 4 reds as they're godlike on ww early with his naturally high AS and W. i dunno it takes a bit of practice but there are few games that WW can't carry thanks to his godmode ult and sustained damage with relatively few damage items. he's definitely hands down the best jungler after 6 and a strong contender for best champ in the game tbqh | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On October 25 2011 13:19 TieN.nS) wrote: I wouldn't call that backpedaling. It's still bad sportsmanship, they agreed to play with a 1 game advantage and are trying to game the rules now. Looks to me like it's more bad calls from WCG admins than any fault of dignitas o.O | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On October 25 2011 14:16 Brees wrote: k so you only have 7 losses in arranged 5s and pretty much all of your junglers have all losses except warwick and jarvan. so you are saying you strictly play jarvan in arranged 5s....and even then it doesnt add up. just please...sit. Rammus is 0-2, Trundle 0-3, Nocturne 2-3, Amumu 4-1, Jarvan 8-2, Skarner 11-6. 25-12 The numbers don't add up. | ||
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