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Jeramus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States37 Posts
October 24 2011 16:27 GMT
#1441
I think you are right, I found this from a post on the LoL forums -

They give a flat amount for every game type.

Normal: 140 or something close

Ranked: 150

Dominion: 80

Co-Op vs ai: 50


--Maybe the fastest way would be 3v3 on TT.


On October 25 2011 01:19 RetZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 01:07 Jeramus wrote:
It doesn't double the +150 IP from first win of the day bonus. The reason it is more effective on SR is that the games tend to last longer so you get more IP which leads to a larger boost.


I'm pretty sure they changed it a while ago so that the x win boosts always give the maximum amount of IP (in terms of game length). I also think I might have read that ranked gives slightly more than normals as well.

Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
October 24 2011 16:28 GMT
#1442
i used my whole boost on summoner's rift. I got the same bonus every game even the first win of the day, didn't win the one dominion game i played so I don't know what the bonus would be on that mode.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 24 2011 16:36 GMT
#1443
On October 25 2011 01:14 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 01:12 Requizen wrote:
On October 25 2011 00:28 Sabin010 wrote:
This should go in the qq thread but since we're on the topic of Shaco... This jungle shaco on my team was level 17 when we lost 57 minutes in...

I know when I'm vs a jungle Shaco and he tries to gank my lane, 9 times out of 10 I'm going to just focus him down and kill him.

Jungle Shacos are often AP, so they rely on Boxes a lot. Don't let yourself get drawn into brushes where he's got 5 of them piled up and you're usually alright, his straight damage isn't too high.

how are jungle shacos "often AP"
jungle shacos usually AD
lane/roam/support shacos go AP.

Huh, I've not actually seen an AD jungle Shaco yet, all the ones I've seen have been AP.

Oh well, silly shit you see in low level LoL
It's your boy Guzma!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 24 2011 16:57 GMT
#1444
Jungle Shaco is AD. You AP Jungle Shaco, how do you kill neutrals? -o-;;
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 24 2011 17:00 GMT
#1445
On October 25 2011 01:57 NeoIllusions wrote:
Jungle Shaco is AD. You AP Jungle Shaco, how do you kill neutrals? -o-;;

Stacking boxes obvi. It only takes ~50 seconds per camp.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 24 2011 17:07 GMT
#1446
On October 25 2011 01:57 NeoIllusions wrote:
Jungle Shaco is AD. You AP Jungle Shaco, how do you kill neutrals? -o-;;

Dring, wriggles, dring => AP items
ezpz
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 24 2011 17:08 GMT
#1447
AP jungle shaco just counterjungles. You just stack boxes and kill the opposing jungler.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 24 2011 17:08 GMT
#1448
Psh, man, I dunno. Never played Shaco, I just know how annoying it is to walk into a bush and lose half my health from those fucking things :\
It's your boy Guzma!
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 24 2011 17:10 GMT
#1449
half? good AP shaco just kills you before you're unfeared.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
October 24 2011 17:12 GMT
#1450
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 24 2011 17:22 GMT
#1451
On October 25 2011 02:10 Mogwai wrote:
half? good AP shaco just kills you before you're unfeared.


honestly getting caught somewhere u don't expect by a bunch of jitb is one of the worst feelings in the game

it's up there with being knocked back to your death from gragas ult, which is also insanely annoying

Zenithal
Profile Joined August 2011
United States142 Posts
October 24 2011 17:24 GMT
#1452
Still not sure if Vayne or Graves D:

I like Vayne's mobility (played her on a friend's account), but the lack of AoE and real burst is kind of meh. Graves just looks like he has so much more going for him, just missing out on Vayne's True Damage.
Whatevs
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 24 2011 17:25 GMT
#1453
Vayne is most likely the stronger choice, as most people seem to think Graves will be getting some kind of nerf. I suggest Graves though, easily one of the most flavorful champions riot has ever released.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
October 24 2011 17:27 GMT
#1454
On October 25 2011 01:27 Jeramus wrote:
I think you are right, I found this from a post on the LoL forums -

They give a flat amount for every game type.

Normal: 140 or something close

Ranked: 150

Dominion: 80

Co-Op vs ai: 50


--Maybe the fastest way would be 3v3 on TT.


Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 01:19 RetZ wrote:
On October 25 2011 01:07 Jeramus wrote:
It doesn't double the +150 IP from first win of the day bonus. The reason it is more effective on SR is that the games tend to last longer so you get more IP which leads to a larger boost.


I'm pretty sure they changed it a while ago so that the x win boosts always give the maximum amount of IP (in terms of game length). I also think I might have read that ranked gives slightly more than normals as well.


I spent it on treeline and got about ~144 every game and it was around 15mins
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 24 2011 17:27 GMT
#1455
On October 25 2011 02:10 Mogwai wrote:
half? good AP shaco just kills you before you're unfeared.

Not Shaco himself: just the boxes. Running through the jungle and there's a fucking nest of those things like they just hatched to murder me. HATE.

If Shaco's there and you don't expect him, you're right fucked.

On October 25 2011 02:12 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Item Suggestion:

Sunglasses
All of Leona's abilities do not work.


Little known fact: all character models with sunglasses (Safari/Officer Caitlyn, all Commando Demacians, Hired Gun Graves, etc) take 1 less damage from Leona's Sunlight ability.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
October 24 2011 17:31 GMT
#1456
On October 25 2011 02:22 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 02:10 Mogwai wrote:
half? good AP shaco just kills you before you're unfeared.


honestly getting caught somewhere u don't expect by a bunch of jitb is one of the worst feelings in the game

it's up there with being knocked back to your death from gragas ult, which is also insanely annoying



The top has to be burning flash to escape a gank only take an Ashe arrow in the face and die anyway.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
October 24 2011 17:33 GMT
#1457
On October 25 2011 02:31 Sabin010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 02:22 travis wrote:
On October 25 2011 02:10 Mogwai wrote:
half? good AP shaco just kills you before you're unfeared.


honestly getting caught somewhere u don't expect by a bunch of jitb is one of the worst feelings in the game

it's up there with being knocked back to your death from gragas ult, which is also insanely annoying



The top has to be burning flash to escape a gank only take an Ashe arrow in the face and die anyway.


The ones you guys posted are the "oh what the hell" moment, but it's also pretty depressing to see a Karthus ult on your head knowing full well you're going to die. Kind of like waiting for an inevitable doom.
KaoReal
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada340 Posts
October 24 2011 17:36 GMT
#1458
On October 25 2011 02:27 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 02:10 Mogwai wrote:
half? good AP shaco just kills you before you're unfeared.

Not Shaco himself: just the boxes. Running through the jungle and there's a fucking nest of those things like they just hatched to murder me. HATE.

If Shaco's there and you don't expect him, you're right fucked.

Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 02:12 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Item Suggestion:

Sunglasses
All of Leona's abilities do not work.


Little known fact: all character models with sunglasses (Safari/Officer Caitlyn, all Commando Demacians, Hired Gun Graves, etc) take 1 less damage from Leona's Sunlight ability.


Is THAT her hidden passive? I remember a while back there was a real shit-storm on the general LoL forums about trying to find her hidden passive. Did they finally spill the beans?
Life can only be understood backwards, but must be lived forward
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 24 2011 17:40 GMT
#1459
On October 25 2011 02:27 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 02:10 Mogwai wrote:
half? good AP shaco just kills you before you're unfeared.

Not Shaco himself: just the boxes. Running through the jungle and there's a fucking nest of those things like they just hatched to murder me. HATE.

If Shaco's there and you don't expect him, you're right fucked.

That's always what it is though...

it's like, you walk to wraiths, 5 jitbs fear you and rape you silly -> shiv to the face, you die before you're out of fear. why would he stack boxes without being nearby to seal the deal?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 24 2011 17:41 GMT
#1460
Epik Gaming's new lineup:
Westrice: solo top (most likely bruiser a la Voyboy)
Salce: AP mid
Dyrus: jungle
Dan Dinh: AD
Nhat Nguyen: Support
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
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