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On October 24 2011 17:10 Shiv. wrote:
So how exactly is one supposed to win a lane against Renekton as Nasus? Showed up with Cloth 5 Pots, still got shat on. I use dodge seals and still lack the HP/5 quints, but should it be as hard as it was? He dominated me pretty handily.
Spirit Fire does burst damage now. Just troll with a bunch of mana regen and do 200 unavoidable damage to him every eleven seconds. Movespeed quints are a must so you can just juke around like a dumb ass while out CSing them and out harassing them rofl.
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I'm pretty sure renek can outheal 200dmg/11seconds lol.
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You'd be super surprised. Spirit fire does gay tons of dmg bro
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A target area becomes desecrated for 5 seconds. Enemies caught in the area when the desecration occurs are dealt a burst of magic damage. Additionally, enemies in the area are dealt magic damage each second and have their armor reduced while on there and for 1 extra second.
Cooldown: 12 seconds
Initial Magic Damage: 55 / 95 / 135 / 175 / 215 (+0.6 per ability power)
Magic Damage Per Second: 11 / 19 / 27 / 35 / 43 (+0.12 per ability power)
He needs to stand in teh wave for atleast 3 seconds at rank 3 for you to do 200damage.
Renekton rank 3 Q is capped @ 100health and 300 if used with fury.
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R>E>Q>W for Nasus is legit for certain lanes.
I've seen Hotshot do the same thing, though I don't remember the specific matchup. It might have been vs Rumble where he wanted to push the lane as hard as possible instead of trying to last hit while taking harass from Rumble. Kennen might play out similarly since they both have non-mana based ranged harass.
The change to front-loaded damage on E was a pretty serious buff.
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been playing a lot of solo corki lately since they buffed his laning. He's really good. Chalice of harmony into thirster or infinity edge, ditch the manamunes bros
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Is anyone getting really bad lag spikes and glitches since this patch came out (both connection and fps spikes on client side)? Getting a bit frustrating - Lost many games this whole week because of it (1 or 2 people, or myself lagging out and not able to get back in for like 10 minutes). There's also been a couple of loss forgiven games a couple of days ago.
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On October 24 2011 19:40 goony wrote:
Is anyone getting really bad lag spikes and glitches since this patch came out (both connection and fps spikes on client side)? Getting a bit frustrating - Lost many games this whole week because of it (1 or 2 people, or myself lagging out and not able to get back in for like 10 minutes). There's also been a couple of loss forgiven games a couple of days ago.
I wouldn't say I've been getting really bad lag spikes but there have been instances where i see my character move someplace or respawn and move before it actually starts moving.
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On October 24 2011 17:33 Happy Frog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 15:48 JBright wrote:On October 24 2011 15:07 Craton wrote:
We have an LoL wiki that nobody ever uses.
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I'm just happy Jatt lost. You mean this one? http://liquidlol.wikispaces.com/If someone is willing to bring over the templates from LP (since I don't know how), I can help fill things out. Is there a particular kind of template you're interested in?
They're simple enough to copy over and edit where we need them But I mean, what would you want. One for champions?
Edit: Wikispace won't let you have a colon in the URL so the odds of getting templates and template coding to work are minimal.
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On October 24 2011 19:40 goony wrote:
Is anyone getting really bad lag spikes and glitches since this patch came out (both connection and fps spikes on client side)? Getting a bit frustrating - Lost many games this whole week because of it (1 or 2 people, or myself lagging out and not able to get back in for like 10 minutes). There's also been a couple of loss forgiven games a couple of days ago.
Happens to me. I give move command but my champion just stays there for a couple seconds. Got even killed a few times because of it because enemy caught up. Also I can't reply to friends while in game for some reason. Also sometimes I don't see my friends online and need to relog to be able to.
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yes i have those spikes too. happened every 5th game or so.
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I'm getting lag spikes every 3-4 games but I have a feeling it's my net/computer.
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What's the general consensus on Kayle? I was trying her a bit today, trying to play support bot but my games kept being too weird for it (enemy double jungle, Kayle/Eve bot). How would you play her in a regular game?
I'm thinking something like Philo -> Boots -> Soul Shroud -> Malady -> Aegis. Really unsure about masteries, was trying 9/21/0 and 0/21/9, the spell pen seems really important.
R -> E -> W -> Q
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On October 24 2011 22:18 Alzadar wrote:
What's the general consensus on Kayle? I was trying her a bit today, trying to play support bot but my games kept being too weird for it (enemy double jungle, Kayle/Eve bot). How would you play her in a regular game?
I'm thinking something like Philo -> Boots -> Soul Shroud -> Malady -> Aegis. Really unsure about masteries, was trying 9/21/0 and 0/21/9, the spell pen seems really important.
R -> E -> W -> Q
Kayle is really bad as a support. Her heal is pitiful, and while her ult does have great utility, she is better built hybrid.
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On Kalye I just go qeqwqr R>Q>W>E. You solo top and just focus on landing a qe combo while your jungler is ganking with red buff. Mid game you get a double buff and direct traffic in team fights.
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On October 24 2011 16:03 Xenocide_Knight wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 14:04 Two_DoWn wrote:On October 24 2011 13:55 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On October 24 2011 13:38 Hakker wrote:On October 24 2011 13:36 spacemonkey4eve wrote:
So just got out of a game top lane garen vs gangplank. He had full crit rune page and started off with brawler's gloves. So I thought npnp I just spin2win as normal since he has no armor, but every crit he hit was taking off 1/3 my life, and of course he hits every 1/3 shots. I started boots + pots and he still managed to push lane and force me to back many times. Is critplank a hard counter to garen, or did I just play bad? I managed to get a couple qe off but I couldn't outdmg him at all, with armor pen + ad quints Im not sure, but dont you almost always want to start 5 pot vs a gp. Pantheon disagrees. Boots+3hp panth wrecks gp in my experience. Especially a brawlers glove opening. Block that bullet all day Who the hell starts brawlers gloves? He mentioned it in the OP..
Pantheon outranges GP, Garen doesn't. They both approach the lane matchup completely differently. You really need that armor against that kind of stupid crit opening. It isn't powerful anymore when his 1/3 chance of critting makes his Qs on your 100 armor bring his crits to barely above what he hits (non-crit) on a low armor target.
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So how unviable is AP TF right now? I used to find him loads of fun and I was considering picking him up again.
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On October 24 2011 23:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So how unviable is AP TF right now? I used to find him loads of fun and I was considering picking him up again.
He's not completely unviable, but since his ulti nerf I dont know what lane you would put him in. He completely falls over to almost every popular solo mid champion atm.
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He farms just fine vs most mids, just like he did before. Nothing changed. He's still really squishy and can side gank very easily, but its more deliberate. His split-push in the lategame is much weaker.
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On October 24 2011 22:41 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 16:03 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On October 24 2011 14:04 Two_DoWn wrote:On October 24 2011 13:55 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On October 24 2011 13:38 Hakker wrote:On October 24 2011 13:36 spacemonkey4eve wrote:
So just got out of a game top lane garen vs gangplank. He had full crit rune page and started off with brawler's gloves. So I thought npnp I just spin2win as normal since he has no armor, but every crit he hit was taking off 1/3 my life, and of course he hits every 1/3 shots. I started boots + pots and he still managed to push lane and force me to back many times. Is critplank a hard counter to garen, or did I just play bad? I managed to get a couple qe off but I couldn't outdmg him at all, with armor pen + ad quints Im not sure, but dont you almost always want to start 5 pot vs a gp. Pantheon disagrees. Boots+3hp panth wrecks gp in my experience. Especially a brawlers glove opening. Block that bullet all day Who the hell starts brawlers gloves? He mentioned it in the OP.. Pantheon outranges GP, Garen doesn't. They both approach the lane matchup completely differently. You really need that armor against that kind of stupid crit opening. It isn't powerful anymore when his 1/3 chance of critting makes his Qs on your 100 armor bring his crits to barely above what he hits (non-crit) on a low armor target.
Yeah you're right. I had dodge seals against him so I had no armor whatsoever. Having armor from runes and cloth would've made it a LOT easier. I almost managed to FB him at lvl 2 with QE but he crit me twice in a row and got first blood instead QQ. So in retrospect having that armor would've made the difference in who got FB , although him being lucky with the crits pissed me off so much that game.
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