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Support buffs any day now!
Radiance buff is yummy.
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On October 06 2011 03:47 Requizen wrote:Off topic, but is AP Kog a viable pick? I might pick him up since he's been fun this free week so far, and having 2 different builds would just solidify that deal. He's fun, and I don't really like that many ranged AP champs.
Well, i don't know if it's viable in higher elo, but he's not bad. The goo spit does ton of damage when AP ( and is pretty easy to land ) and ult spamming is funny as hell. But you're like more dependant to blue buff than an Anivia lol.
And you're losing the benefit that Kog is currently the best AD in term of damage. ( still think Cait is a better pick overall imho.. but people tend to overlook lane control. )
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On October 06 2011 03:52 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 03:47 Requizen wrote: His poking is beyond godlike with blue tho. Like, better than AP Kog'Maw. Off topic, but is AP Kog a viable pick? I might pick him up since he's been fun this free week so far, and having 2 different builds would just solidify that deal. He's fun, and I don't really like that many ranged AP champs. Well, i don't know if it's viable in higher elo, but he's not bad. The goo spit does ton of damage when AP ( and is pretty easy to land ) and ult spamming is funny as hell. But you're like more dependant to blue buff than an Anivia lol. And you're losing the benefit that Kog is currently the best AD in term of damage. ( still think Cait is a better pick overall imho.. but people tend to overlook lane control. )
Yeah, I main Riven and Cait, but I've been looking at Kog as a second ranged AD carry (my preferred role). Cait for when we need a strong laner, Kog for when we need a strong late game damage-er. Not a huge fan of Vayne, though. I feel that with Cait, Trist and Kog, I'd have a ranged AD for really any sort of team comp.
I have Brand and Ryze as ranged AP, but I'm not a huge fan of the Caster playstyle. Thought if AP Kog worked, I'd have a champ that would fill that role and play a bit differently.
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A long awaited Morganna nerf. She was so hard to deal with. Farming 100% of minions with her aoe and regaining her health.
Morgannas playstyle was far too simple.
- Place aoe on the ground below minions.
- Walk back to the turret and alt tab for something else.
- Take 6 free last hits for nothing .
- Let your passive heal any harass you may have taken =[
This was the way ti felt when I play Kassadin (my main) against her. Then her shield made the harass impossible if they were paying attention.
The new champion also looks great fun to play. Tempted to buy him.
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New champ is kinda fun in my 1st game. I wasn't getting kills with twitch and teemo pew pewing people and I was like 2/6/11? you can pull off some crazy stuff with that range though jesus 3x spam ult with that huge range? Damn.
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On October 06 2011 04:00 ODKStevez wrote:
A long awaited Morganna nerf. She was so hard to deal with. Farming 100% of minions with her aoe and regaining her health.
Morgannas playstyle was far too simple.
- Place aoe on the ground below minions.
- Walk back to the turret and alt tab for something else.
- Take 6 free last hits for nothing .
- Let your passive heal any harass you may have taken =[
This was the way ti felt when I play Kassadin (my main) against her. Then her shield made the harass impossible if they were paying attention.
The new champion also looks great fun to play. Tempted to buy him.
As a person who mains Karthus....Fuck Morganna lol.
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On October 06 2011 01:13 TheYango wrote:
Wriggle's is just straight up better than DBlades on Riven, IMO. She has high base HP and mediocre base armor, as well as effectively getting HP from AD. The stat mix on Wriggle's is superior for her.
Atmogs/Atmallet seems silly on her the same reason it is on Jax. Yeah it's cost-effective, but it really doesn't *fit* her. Again, she gets HP value from AD, so its stupid to build an item that's all HP on her first. Ghostblade on the other hand, feels like too much money in the wrong place. She's a late-game hard carry, buying a midgame DPS item like Bruta is just treating her the wrong way, and the GB active does nothing for her
Just build her like a Jax that only benefits from AD instead of hybrid items. Bloodthirster as you first big damage item. GA/QSS as your core survivability items. IE/LW to round out as secondary damage items. As far as her role, her lategame as a melee carry is potentially stronger than Jax, because she has similar free survivability, more AoE damage, and effectively gets 1.8 AD and 3-5 HP out of every 1 AD she actually buys.
So, if you go wriggles as your early game item, how do you build it? I was playing her free and couldn't figure out th efirst item. Cloth 5pot or boot 3pot? Then you just rush straight B.F. Sword and Bloodthirster? Would you ever get Bruta or Phage?
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On October 06 2011 04:22 Zenithal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 01:13 TheYango wrote:
Wriggle's is just straight up better than DBlades on Riven, IMO. She has high base HP and mediocre base armor, as well as effectively getting HP from AD. The stat mix on Wriggle's is superior for her.
Atmogs/Atmallet seems silly on her the same reason it is on Jax. Yeah it's cost-effective, but it really doesn't *fit* her. Again, she gets HP value from AD, so its stupid to build an item that's all HP on her first. Ghostblade on the other hand, feels like too much money in the wrong place. She's a late-game hard carry, buying a midgame DPS item like Bruta is just treating her the wrong way, and the GB active does nothing for her
Just build her like a Jax that only benefits from AD instead of hybrid items. Bloodthirster as you first big damage item. GA/QSS as your core survivability items. IE/LW to round out as secondary damage items. As far as her role, her lategame as a melee carry is potentially stronger than Jax, because she has similar free survivability, more AoE damage, and effectively gets 1.8 AD and 3-5 HP out of every 1 AD she actually buys. So, if you go wriggles as your early game item, how do you build it? I was playing her free and couldn't figure out th efirst item. Cloth 5pot or boot 3pot? Then you just rush straight B.F. Sword and Bloodthirster? Would you ever get Bruta or Phage?
Cloth5/boot3 just depends on how hard your lane is gonna be. Bruta is good early because of ad cdr and arp.
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People keep talking about how broken Xerath will be. He's got awesome range but most of his damage seems to be area based, meaning it won't be as powerful as straight up nukes. About to jump into the queue, chances are he'll be in every game.
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did this patch break first win of the day for anyone else I can't get my bonus IP?? I'm a complete noob at this game so there might be something I don't know about patch days but 2 wins and no bonus so far 
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On October 06 2011 04:29 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 04:22 Zenithal wrote:On October 06 2011 01:13 TheYango wrote:
Wriggle's is just straight up better than DBlades on Riven, IMO. She has high base HP and mediocre base armor, as well as effectively getting HP from AD. The stat mix on Wriggle's is superior for her.
Atmogs/Atmallet seems silly on her the same reason it is on Jax. Yeah it's cost-effective, but it really doesn't *fit* her. Again, she gets HP value from AD, so its stupid to build an item that's all HP on her first. Ghostblade on the other hand, feels like too much money in the wrong place. She's a late-game hard carry, buying a midgame DPS item like Bruta is just treating her the wrong way, and the GB active does nothing for her
Just build her like a Jax that only benefits from AD instead of hybrid items. Bloodthirster as you first big damage item. GA/QSS as your core survivability items. IE/LW to round out as secondary damage items. As far as her role, her lategame as a melee carry is potentially stronger than Jax, because she has similar free survivability, more AoE damage, and effectively gets 1.8 AD and 3-5 HP out of every 1 AD she actually buys. So, if you go wriggles as your early game item, how do you build it? I was playing her free and couldn't figure out th efirst item. Cloth 5pot or boot 3pot? Then you just rush straight B.F. Sword and Bloodthirster? Would you ever get Bruta or Phage? Cloth5/boot3 just depends on how hard your lane is gonna be. Bruta is good early because of ad cdr and arp.
He said that it was a bad mid-game item though, so I was confused. It has a lot of things she wants, but is kind of expensive, so I wasn't sure if it was worth it instead of just going for B.F. Sword?
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On October 06 2011 04:40 Offhand wrote:
People keep talking about how broken Xerath will be. He's got awesome range but most of his damage seems to be area based, meaning it won't be as powerful as straight up nukes. About to jump into the queue, chances are he'll be in every game.
His ap ratio on Q is pretty bad (which is the only thing that really abuses the range) and most of his base damage was lower than other champions ( i think )
His passive sucks, I don't know why they did another "here have some free gold" passive again. I much rather passives that make you do things.
The only thing I don't like is that you can get knocked around when you're rooted.
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On October 06 2011 04:43 Zenithal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 04:29 JackDino wrote:On October 06 2011 04:22 Zenithal wrote:On October 06 2011 01:13 TheYango wrote:
Wriggle's is just straight up better than DBlades on Riven, IMO. She has high base HP and mediocre base armor, as well as effectively getting HP from AD. The stat mix on Wriggle's is superior for her.
Atmogs/Atmallet seems silly on her the same reason it is on Jax. Yeah it's cost-effective, but it really doesn't *fit* her. Again, she gets HP value from AD, so its stupid to build an item that's all HP on her first. Ghostblade on the other hand, feels like too much money in the wrong place. She's a late-game hard carry, buying a midgame DPS item like Bruta is just treating her the wrong way, and the GB active does nothing for her
Just build her like a Jax that only benefits from AD instead of hybrid items. Bloodthirster as you first big damage item. GA/QSS as your core survivability items. IE/LW to round out as secondary damage items. As far as her role, her lategame as a melee carry is potentially stronger than Jax, because she has similar free survivability, more AoE damage, and effectively gets 1.8 AD and 3-5 HP out of every 1 AD she actually buys. So, if you go wriggles as your early game item, how do you build it? I was playing her free and couldn't figure out th efirst item. Cloth 5pot or boot 3pot? Then you just rush straight B.F. Sword and Bloodthirster? Would you ever get Bruta or Phage? Cloth5/boot3 just depends on how hard your lane is gonna be. Bruta is good early because of ad cdr and arp. He said that it was a bad mid-game item though, so I was confused. It has a lot of things she wants, but is kind of expensive, so I wasn't sure if it was worth it instead of just going for B.F. Sword?
The ArPen is great if they're building no armor at all, and the CDR is amazing on a manaless champ. I'd take it, but if they're squishy and have armor items, BFS might just be a better straight buy.
Edit: fixed
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On October 06 2011 04:45 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 04:40 Offhand wrote:
People keep talking about how broken Xerath will be. He's got awesome range but most of his damage seems to be area based, meaning it won't be as powerful as straight up nukes. About to jump into the queue, chances are he'll be in every game. His ap ratio on Q is pretty bad (which is the only thing that really abuses the range) and most of his base damage was lower than other champions ( i think ) His passive sucks, I don't know why they did another "here have some free gold" passive again. I much rather passives that make you do things. The only thing I don't like is that you can get knocked around when you're rooted.
Not sure how 0.6 on a low CD AoE spell is supposed to be low... compare to Annie and Brand. It sure as hell isn't low especially if you consider the 30% MPen on top of it.
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On October 06 2011 04:49 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 04:43 Zenithal wrote:On October 06 2011 04:29 JackDino wrote:On October 06 2011 04:22 Zenithal wrote:On October 06 2011 01:13 TheYango wrote:
Wriggle's is just straight up better than DBlades on Riven, IMO. She has high base HP and mediocre base armor, as well as effectively getting HP from AD. The stat mix on Wriggle's is superior for her.
Atmogs/Atmallet seems silly on her the same reason it is on Jax. Yeah it's cost-effective, but it really doesn't *fit* her. Again, she gets HP value from AD, so its stupid to build an item that's all HP on her first. Ghostblade on the other hand, feels like too much money in the wrong place. She's a late-game hard carry, buying a midgame DPS item like Bruta is just treating her the wrong way, and the GB active does nothing for her
Just build her like a Jax that only benefits from AD instead of hybrid items. Bloodthirster as you first big damage item. GA/QSS as your core survivability items. IE/LW to round out as secondary damage items. As far as her role, her lategame as a melee carry is potentially stronger than Jax, because she has similar free survivability, more AoE damage, and effectively gets 1.8 AD and 3-5 HP out of every 1 AD she actually buys. So, if you go wriggles as your early game item, how do you build it? I was playing her free and couldn't figure out th efirst item. Cloth 5pot or boot 3pot? Then you just rush straight B.F. Sword and Bloodthirster? Would you ever get Bruta or Phage? Cloth5/boot3 just depends on how hard your lane is gonna be. Bruta is good early because of ad cdr and arp. He said that it was a bad mid-game item though, so I was confused. It has a lot of things she wants, but is kind of expensive, so I wasn't sure if it was worth it instead of just going for B.F. Sword? The ArPen is great if they're building armor at all, and the CDR is amazing on a manaless champ. I'd take it, but if they're squishy and have no armor items, BFS might just be a better straight buy.
I've explained to you twice already that ArPen works best if they don't build armor. Twice. In large posts. jesus tittyfucking christ...
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Marshall Islands3404 Posts
xerath suck
morde #1
rammus #2
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On October 06 2011 04:06 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 04:00 ODKStevez wrote:
A long awaited Morganna nerf. She was so hard to deal with. Farming 100% of minions with her aoe and regaining her health.
Morgannas playstyle was far too simple.
- Place aoe on the ground below minions.
- Walk back to the turret and alt tab for something else.
- Take 6 free last hits for nothing .
- Let your passive heal any harass you may have taken =[
This was the way ti felt when I play Kassadin (my main) against her. Then her shield made the harass impossible if they were paying attention.
The new champion also looks great fun to play. Tempted to buy him. As a person who mains Karthus....Fuck Morganna lol.
As a person who mains Morgana, trololol Karthus ulti. Just kidding. I think Morgana is still too strong tbh, the nerf had barely any impact apart from her very early laning and her shield is still sufficient to shrug off most gank attempts. But please don't listen to me Riot, Morgana is not OP at all.
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Xerath looks straight up stolen from a WoW boss
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On October 06 2011 04:51 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 04:49 Requizen wrote:On October 06 2011 04:43 Zenithal wrote:On October 06 2011 04:29 JackDino wrote:On October 06 2011 04:22 Zenithal wrote:On October 06 2011 01:13 TheYango wrote:
Wriggle's is just straight up better than DBlades on Riven, IMO. She has high base HP and mediocre base armor, as well as effectively getting HP from AD. The stat mix on Wriggle's is superior for her.
Atmogs/Atmallet seems silly on her the same reason it is on Jax. Yeah it's cost-effective, but it really doesn't *fit* her. Again, she gets HP value from AD, so its stupid to build an item that's all HP on her first. Ghostblade on the other hand, feels like too much money in the wrong place. She's a late-game hard carry, buying a midgame DPS item like Bruta is just treating her the wrong way, and the GB active does nothing for her
Just build her like a Jax that only benefits from AD instead of hybrid items. Bloodthirster as you first big damage item. GA/QSS as your core survivability items. IE/LW to round out as secondary damage items. As far as her role, her lategame as a melee carry is potentially stronger than Jax, because she has similar free survivability, more AoE damage, and effectively gets 1.8 AD and 3-5 HP out of every 1 AD she actually buys. So, if you go wriggles as your early game item, how do you build it? I was playing her free and couldn't figure out th efirst item. Cloth 5pot or boot 3pot? Then you just rush straight B.F. Sword and Bloodthirster? Would you ever get Bruta or Phage? Cloth5/boot3 just depends on how hard your lane is gonna be. Bruta is good early because of ad cdr and arp. He said that it was a bad mid-game item though, so I was confused. It has a lot of things she wants, but is kind of expensive, so I wasn't sure if it was worth it instead of just going for B.F. Sword? The ArPen is great if they're building armor at all, and the CDR is amazing on a manaless champ. I'd take it, but if they're squishy and have no armor items, BFS might just be a better straight buy. I've explained to you twice already that ArPen works best if they don't build armor. Twice. In large posts. jesus tittyfucking christ...
I had one word backwards and fixed it, chill bro. Typing fast at work means errors happen.
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On October 06 2011 05:01 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 04:51 Mogwai wrote:On October 06 2011 04:49 Requizen wrote:On October 06 2011 04:43 Zenithal wrote:On October 06 2011 04:29 JackDino wrote:On October 06 2011 04:22 Zenithal wrote:On October 06 2011 01:13 TheYango wrote:
Wriggle's is just straight up better than DBlades on Riven, IMO. She has high base HP and mediocre base armor, as well as effectively getting HP from AD. The stat mix on Wriggle's is superior for her.
Atmogs/Atmallet seems silly on her the same reason it is on Jax. Yeah it's cost-effective, but it really doesn't *fit* her. Again, she gets HP value from AD, so its stupid to build an item that's all HP on her first. Ghostblade on the other hand, feels like too much money in the wrong place. She's a late-game hard carry, buying a midgame DPS item like Bruta is just treating her the wrong way, and the GB active does nothing for her
Just build her like a Jax that only benefits from AD instead of hybrid items. Bloodthirster as you first big damage item. GA/QSS as your core survivability items. IE/LW to round out as secondary damage items. As far as her role, her lategame as a melee carry is potentially stronger than Jax, because she has similar free survivability, more AoE damage, and effectively gets 1.8 AD and 3-5 HP out of every 1 AD she actually buys. So, if you go wriggles as your early game item, how do you build it? I was playing her free and couldn't figure out th efirst item. Cloth 5pot or boot 3pot? Then you just rush straight B.F. Sword and Bloodthirster? Would you ever get Bruta or Phage? Cloth5/boot3 just depends on how hard your lane is gonna be. Bruta is good early because of ad cdr and arp. He said that it was a bad mid-game item though, so I was confused. It has a lot of things she wants, but is kind of expensive, so I wasn't sure if it was worth it instead of just going for B.F. Sword? The ArPen is great if they're building armor at all, and the CDR is amazing on a manaless champ. I'd take it, but if they're squishy and have no armor items, BFS might just be a better straight buy. I've explained to you twice already that ArPen works best if they don't build armor. Twice. In large posts. jesus tittyfucking christ... I had one word backwards and fixed it, chill bro. Typing fast at work means errors happen.
highly doubt that or you would have just put no armor
i dont think anyone says "no armor at all"
that dont make no dam sense son
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