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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 09:19:18
October 17 2011 09:19 GMT
#2721
Regi and Dyrus dual jungling, ali + blitz, so fkin funny stuff oh gods

http://www.own3d.tv/live/37905/EpikGamer_-_Dyrus
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 17 2011 09:34 GMT
#2722
They need to fix the fucking bug that makes akali invisible in shroud after you use talon Q or Kog R on her.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23386 Posts
October 17 2011 09:34 GMT
#2723
On October 17 2011 13:13 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 13:04 Slayer91 wrote:
He has 10 runepages labled based on stats and like 7 of them could be used for Nasus.

But based on best guesses:
Reds: Arpen
Quints: Hp regen/5 OR Armour quints OR MR quints
Yellows: Armour or dodge flat
Blues: MR flat or scaling OR 4 flat armour blues as well

His "classic" (it's called) runepage is:
Arpen/flat armour/flat mr/flat hp regen/5

But yeah, the basic way to play nasus is to get arpen red and then stack the other slots with the stat that helps you lane the most. The early laning phase is critical. I use even armour quints or mr quints combined with flat armour yellows and flat mr blues. (Though vs pure armour lanes I get scaling MR)

He also has one with arpen quints as well but it's generally always worth getting defensive based quints.


Judging by the regrowth+pot opening, I'd lean towards the regen. Id love you forever if you could keep an eye on him when he gets active again just to make sure and check out his masteries.


Pretty much the only thing that makes sense is some form of 0/9/21 unless you are positive on an easy lane in which case 9/0/21. The cdr, movement and manaregen are really valuable in utility. 21 Defense is reserved for situations where the -physical and minion damage taken is significant, (hi yorick) as the -4% damage taken is nice but having your TP and flash up more is generally saving your life more.

It's kind of stupid how weak the defense tree is. -48 hp -4% damage taken and some -minion damage is all of what you can get for investing heavily.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 10:29:23
October 17 2011 10:28 GMT
#2724
[image loading]


Kat so strong in normals. Also, I just turned 30 so my normal Elo is shitty anyhow. 7-0 laning phases into godmode ezpz troll-suicide-wins. I love her soooo much.

P.S. always wanted to make that kind of dickhead/braggery post. So much fun.
currently rooting for myself.
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
October 17 2011 10:33 GMT
#2725
WTF is that pedobear icon on the bottom of your screen!
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
October 17 2011 10:37 GMT
#2726
Busted!
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
October 17 2011 10:39 GMT
#2727
I can't say playing Ranked games is fun. It's just a flame fest, qq fest and insult fest. Might just stop playing Ranked. <_<
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
October 17 2011 11:18 GMT
#2728
On October 17 2011 19:33 -Kato- wrote:
WTF is that pedobear icon on the bottom of your screen!

Adium. It's a highly configurably (hence the icon) multi messenger for mac.
currently rooting for myself.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 17 2011 11:26 GMT
#2729
On October 17 2011 20:18 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 19:33 -Kato- wrote:
WTF is that pedobear icon on the bottom of your screen!

Adium. It's a highly configurably (hence the icon) multi messenger for mac.


Looks like a pedobear to me.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 17 2011 11:55 GMT
#2730
On October 17 2011 20:18 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 19:33 -Kato- wrote:
WTF is that pedobear icon on the bottom of your screen!

Adium. It's a highly configurably (hence the icon) multi messenger for mac.

Sure sure, you sure its not some kind of pedobear flash game?
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
October 17 2011 12:01 GMT
#2731
On October 17 2011 20:26 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 20:18 Shiv. wrote:
On October 17 2011 19:33 -Kato- wrote:
WTF is that pedobear icon on the bottom of your screen!

Adium. It's a highly configurably (hence the icon) multi messenger for mac.


Looks like a pedobear to me.

That's because I thought it's super funny to have a pedobear as your ICQ/MSN/AIM icon.
BTW, just to give you guys a proof: check dis out.
currently rooting for myself.
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
October 17 2011 12:40 GMT
#2732
Oh, so you chose to have pedobear on your desktop. Nope, not creepy at all.

jk man
Betrayed by EG.BuK
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
October 17 2011 12:49 GMT
#2733
giving us "proof" is even more suspicious
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 12:57:22
October 17 2011 12:55 GMT
#2734
I want to start a new discussion:

Backdooring:

I just lost a whole game where our team was insanely winning but we were negated from pushing by a Master Yi with teleport, he just kept backdooring our base the enemy got more ahead. And then we lost because we couldn't push properly and the opposition, I feel like thats incredibly broken I know theres an anti back dooring system, but I feel like its so damn weak. In DotA backdooring was super rare because it was incredibly difficult (Well maybe not super rare), was it because of the free fortify?. On LoL its ridiculous and I blame it more and more on highlander.

What do you guys think? I think they need to buff the anti-backdooring system pretty significantly, I feel like BDing takes so much fun out of the game.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
October 17 2011 13:01 GMT
#2735
I used to think it was incredibly cheap and pathetic and not a fair way to win a game.

Then i realised whatever wins you the game wins you the game, such is LoL or any MOBA game for that matter. There is no cheap, no lame, no dishonourable, there is only winning and losing.


Think about it, the entire game revolves around never picking a fair fight. Whatever makes you win makes you win.

That said i still don't like it but i have learned to live with it.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 13:09:46
October 17 2011 13:03 GMT
#2736
On October 17 2011 21:55 RogerX wrote:
I want to start a new discussion:

Backdooring:

I just lost a whole game where our team was insanely winning but we were negated from pushing by a Master Yi with teleport, he just kept backdooring our base the enemy got more ahead. And then we lost because we couldn't push properly and the opposition, I feel like thats incredibly broken I know theres an anti back dooring system, but I feel like its so damn weak. In DotA backdooring was super rare because it was incredibly difficult (Well maybe not super rare), was it because of the free fortify?. On LoL its ridiculous and I blame it more and more on highlander.

What do you guys think? I think they need to buff the anti-backdooring system pretty significantly, I feel like BDing takes so much fun out of the game.

Split-pushing, or back-dooring?

If he's fed enough to actually back-door with any amount of effectiveness, then you probably lost the game some time ago. True backdooring is so much harder in LoL due to how much stronger towers are, how they gain damage on successive hits, and how there are no illusion/image items to tank towers for you (though there are some champ skills for it).

If he's split-pushing, then you need to play around that fact. Initiate 5v4s, force objectives, etc. Split-pushing in DotA is actually fairly common, given how you can buy TPs, and how many heroes have incredibly strong low-cooldown global abilities that set them up well for split-pushing (Spectre, Furion, BoT Tinker, etc.).
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dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
October 17 2011 13:16 GMT
#2737
Backdooring is incredibly easy to stop in LoL.

Split pushing is harder to stop depending on the champion and your team composition.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 13:21:24
October 17 2011 13:20 GMT
#2738
just for the sake of completement and comprehensibility:

split-pushing: pushing minion waves simultaneously and killing turrets with minion support.

trilane-pushing (dota): a strategy where your team pushes all three lanes simultaneously with 3 tanky carries basicly all the time while 2 supports help out where they can to prevent losses.

backdooring: killing turrets/inhibitors/nexus without minion support.

turrets are 2 times as strong as they are without minion support. if someone is able to backdoor effectively then you probably have to force a 5on5 with a fast push which will most likely turn into a basetrade.

however, there are champions that can stop yi from backdooring if you got teleport up or sth like that but those are few.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
October 17 2011 13:40 GMT
#2739
On October 17 2011 22:01 zalz wrote:
I used to think it was incredibly cheap and pathetic and not a fair way to win a game.

Then i realised whatever wins you the game wins you the game, such is LoL or any MOBA game for that matter. There is no cheap, no lame, no dishonourable, there is only winning and losing.


Think about it, the entire game revolves around never picking a fair fight. Whatever makes you win makes you win.

That said i still don't like it but i have learned to live with it.


I don't think you find fair fights anywhere
what's the point in that anyway

and if you win a fair fight it's not fair because you were more skilled to begin with

or if it was by chance, then what are you proud of?
And all is illuminated.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
October 17 2011 13:46 GMT
#2740
On October 17 2011 22:40 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 22:01 zalz wrote:
I used to think it was incredibly cheap and pathetic and not a fair way to win a game.

Then i realised whatever wins you the game wins you the game, such is LoL or any MOBA game for that matter. There is no cheap, no lame, no dishonourable, there is only winning and losing.


Think about it, the entire game revolves around never picking a fair fight. Whatever makes you win makes you win.

That said i still don't like it but i have learned to live with it.


I don't think you find fair fights anywhere
what's the point in that anyway

and if you win a fair fight it's not fair because you were more skilled to begin with

or if it was by chance, then what are you proud of?


Thanks for repeating what i said?
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