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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
October 17 2011 15:18 GMT
#2761
On October 18 2011 00:03 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
It just seems he is not picked/banned very often (or at least at 1200 elo).


I've only played about ten ranked games, and in every single one amummu was banned. Dat hatred.


Below 1400 elo has this habit of hating on tanks all day. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 17 2011 15:22 GMT
#2762
People ban amumu because 1 they think his ulti is OP(it's gamechanging if used properly, gl with that @ 1400 elo lol), and 2 TANKS NEVER DIE LOL. Sad thing is everytime they pick amumu they kinda lose the game for you, when the enemy plays amumu it's like a free win lol.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 17 2011 15:41 GMT
#2763
The sad thing is below 1400 Elo you can miss every bandage toss and still gank successfully as Amumu even pre-6 because everyone is so bad.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 17 2011 15:43 GMT
#2764
Possible splash art for Halloween skins:

Linky
It's your boy Guzma!
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 17 2011 15:48 GMT
#2765
Dat Blitz Skin. Man I hope those are them :D
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
October 17 2011 15:58 GMT
#2766
Twisted Treeline ghost team, Ghost Gankplace, Ghost Fiddle, Ghost Nocturne is OP.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 17 2011 16:07 GMT
#2767
I think I'm going to have to buy Surprise Party Fiddlesticks even though I rarely play Fiddle.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 17 2011 16:08 GMT
#2768
Fuck. Time to go get more RP I guess. Fuck you riot.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
October 17 2011 16:31 GMT
#2769
i don't get the blitz skin
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 17 2011 16:35 GMT
#2770
On October 18 2011 01:31 Attakijing wrote:
i don't get the blitz skin

Incognito Blitz, like he's dressing up to blend in. It's Halloween, you know?
It's your boy Guzma!
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 17 2011 16:38 GMT
#2771
On October 18 2011 00:22 JackDino wrote:
People ban amumu because 1 they think his ulti is OP(it's gamechanging if used properly, gl with that @ 1400 elo lol), and 2 TANKS NEVER DIE LOL. Sad thing is everytime they pick amumu they kinda lose the game for you, when the enemy plays amumu it's like a free win lol.

There's a simple reason for 2:
"DONT FOCUS THE TANK"
Well of course the tank won't die if all you do is chase after enemies you won't catch.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 17 2011 16:40 GMT
#2772
On October 18 2011 01:38 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 00:22 JackDino wrote:
People ban amumu because 1 they think his ulti is OP(it's gamechanging if used properly, gl with that @ 1400 elo lol), and 2 TANKS NEVER DIE LOL. Sad thing is everytime they pick amumu they kinda lose the game for you, when the enemy plays amumu it's like a free win lol.

There's a simple reason for 2:
"DONT FOCUS THE TANK"
Well of course the tank won't die if all you do is chase after enemies you won't catch.

Low ELO, people don't get the concept of not killing things. If there's an enemy, ignoring it for more valuable targets/repositioning/killing turrets is out of the question. If you ignore and run from Amumu, he's mostly harmless by himself, but people insist on 1v1ing the character that takes no damage, can stun you, and does % of your health.
It's your boy Guzma!
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
October 17 2011 16:42 GMT
#2773
That link is not working
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 17 2011 16:45 GMT
#2774
People focus to much on whoever is closest (usually the tanks) so they can get kills. They don't have patience or guts to go for squishies and possibly open themselves up for getting killed or cc'd. A lot of times sadly at low elo its almost a race as to who can kill the tank 1st so then they can go after quishies. Its why good tanks are useful at low elo because they can disrupt/stay alive long enough for the other guy to die so his team can actually do something. Which is why I have a high winning percent as Renekton as I can just wade through and stun/kill their damage dealers and survive long enough to kill their dps or force them to stop dealing damage and reposition since I get right in their face. Its really easy to scare people off from fights by just getting in their face in teamfights since everyone is soo concerned about their damn ratio because everyone flames everyone so much.
Never Knows Best.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 16:55:47
October 17 2011 16:51 GMT
#2775
On October 18 2011 01:45 Slaughter wrote:
People focus to much on whoever is closest (usually the tanks) so they can get kills. They don't have patience or guts to go for squishies and possibly open themselves up for getting killed or cc'd. A lot of times sadly at low elo its almost a race as to who can kill the tank 1st so then they can go after quishies. Its why good tanks are useful at low elo because they can disrupt/stay alive long enough for the other guy to die so his team can actually do something. Which is why I have a high winning percent as Renekton as I can just wade through and stun/kill their damage dealers and survive long enough to kill their dps or force them to stop dealing damage and reposition since I get right in their face. Its really easy to scare people off from fights by just getting in their face in teamfights since everyone is soo concerned about their damn ratio because everyone flames everyone so much.


Waitwhat.

The problem at low elo is that PEOPLE DO NOT HIT THE TANKS, even if horribly out of position.

Your judgement is completely wrong. The problem is that people tend to IGNORE tanks to get the enemy carries and neglect that your carries usually have to chew through their tanks before they can go at the real threats.


If I'm a Caitlyn and there's a GP and Rammus in my face I can't hit the enemy Vayne. If my team tells me to focus her, my team is making a retarded call.

The whole concept of "focus" is completely misunderstood at low elo, which your post actually shows quite well. =P



The reason you have such a high winning percentage as Renekton is because the enemy team leaves their carries to 1n1 you, which means your team 4n4's with AD/AP/support/Jungle vs AP/support/jungle/solo top -> your team wins that 4n4 easily, cause you have both your main damage dealers in that fight while the enemy team lacks their AD.

The correct answer to a tank or tanky dps diving your carry is to 5n1 his sorry ass and then deal with the rest of his team.


Winning as tanky dps at lowish elo is all about driving enemy carries away from the fight and then coming back to 5n4.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 17 2011 16:57 GMT
#2776
I think it's more people don't know when to focus.

Attacking Vayne over Renek when Renek is in your face is dumb. Run the fuck away and kill him through kiting and chipping at his health.

Attacking Renek over Vayne when Vayne is up close attacking your carries is dumb. If the enemy carry puts themselves in a position where you can hit them without putting yourself in the same place, do it.


People either get "attack tank until he's dead" or "only kill squishy carries" in their head and don't deviate at lower levels. It's the lack of awareness and flexibility that really hurts them.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 17:02:57
October 17 2011 16:57 GMT
#2777
Wait so you should hit the tanks who do not much damage while their carries beat on you? Seems kinda pointless to keep hitting the tanks when they have blown all their cc/disrupt crap and they are engaged with your tank. Maybe my perspective is highly skewed because I am in the depths of hell when it comes to ranked and I rarely ever see team play but in my mind melee dps should not all be focusing a tank while the other team is raping your carries.

And thats what I do when Im Renek I chase people out of fights or kill them then wade right back into whoever I think is the priority target, But Tanks are usually last on my list since I do not go great dmg on them usually with Renek and they can ignore me.

I main karthus tho so usually I just wall to open a fight and then wade into it so my aoe hits as many people as possible while qing whatever person is doing the most damage/disruption to my team. I just wonder why you say tank 1st when there is some person right behind them just sitting there doing massive amounts of dmg to your team and their carry ends up with 3-4 kills because everyone focused rammus while they were killing our carries so we end up aced and they lost just rammus.
Never Knows Best.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
October 17 2011 16:58 GMT
#2778
Teamfighting is a horrible mess at all Elo. If you actually bothered to analyze the replays for how teamfights go at IPL and stuff, you can see (but only ever in retrospect), that the large majority of spells and shit aren't being tossed optimally from either side.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 17 2011 17:00 GMT
#2779
Lol that surprise party fiddle skin is so fitting.
How didn't they think of that one sooner?XD
Cackle™
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
October 17 2011 17:04 GMT
#2780
On October 18 2011 02:00 TheKefka wrote:
Lol that surprise party fiddle skin is so fitting.
How didn't they think of that one sooner?XD


It wasn't even riot's idea - it came from the official forums.

I'm probably going to crack up the first time I hear the sound effects in game.
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