EPT[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 81
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Slayer91
Ireland23340 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On September 21 2011 00:10 Southlight wrote: Except he can't farm, because he has 0 (zero!) sustain skills. This means he cannot top lane, he struggles jungle, and he can kinda sorta bot if bot weren't infested with supports and ranged AD and AP carries. Whoops. utah, come on man, aren't you always talking about how stupid it is that people don't try more shit out in bot lane? | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
The difference with Riven is that her toolset is completely different and interesting, while playing differently. Wukong just plays like everyone else. IMO he's viable and useful, but other people bring what he brings and more, and better. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On September 21 2011 00:17 Southlight wrote: Yea but Wukong has no tools for bot lane, lol. Have seen it attempted, it's not pretty >_< No disables, no sustain, terrible burst, like the only thing you can do is Soraka him or something but that's mostly riding the OP-ness of a certain support hero. I did a Janna-wukong lane, it worked well enough. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Edit: By which I mean he's really fun to play IMO, with his ridiculous CD dash, but his early-game is soooooooooooooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. Edit2: You know a hero has sustain issues when you get Wriggles and he cannot maintain HP in jungle. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 21 2011 00:25 Iplaythings wrote: I did a Janna-wukong lane, it worked well enough. That probably had more to do with Janna being Janna. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
They are keeping normal drafts | ||
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
On September 21 2011 00:43 Juicyfruit wrote: http://eune.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=3868352#post3868352 They are keeping normal drafts Nice  Btw, is there any quality LoL forum other that this subforum of TL? I took a look at the Solomid/CLG/Mobafire/Leaguecraft forums and they looked pretty trash compared to TL :/ And the official forums are just another Battle.net forums clone :< Once you get used to TL-quality it's hard to go back... | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On September 21 2011 00:51 BobMcJohnson wrote: Nice Btw, is there any quality LoL forum other that this subforum of TL? I took a look at the Solomid/CLG/Mobafire/Leaguecraft forums and they looked pretty trash compared to TL :/ And the official forums are just another Battle.net forums clone :< Once you get used to TL-quality it's hard to go back... I just read red posts via one of the million trackers. It's a nice way to sift through the garbage on the general forums | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23340 Posts
On September 21 2011 00:25 Iplaythings wrote: I did a Janna-wukong lane, it worked well enough. Yeah janna wukong is super good raped a kog maw taric lane. Wukong has gap closer and escape for when they try to kite you back to tower, that whole thing with the ranged ad running into tower then chasing you to half all the way down is brutal and only ppl who can avoid it is viable as melee bot lane really. (Jax, Wukong, Lee sin) | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On September 21 2011 00:02 Southlight wrote: But see, with Skarner and Wukong the issue is mostly a matter of terrible hero design (they're nothing new), and with Yorick they tried to do something gimmicky but ended up having a batshit retarded hero to balance. ... Skarner isn't anything new but I think he's a lot of fun. I'm waiting for Riot to cave and make the stat boosts from his W stick around after it breaks, like Janna's shield. | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
I really wonder about this wukong debate. He is strong imo. His laneing top isnt the best but its certainly not terrible compared to other weak laners like nasus, singed and an early game irelia. He doesnt scale as good as them into lategame if you just look at his raw duelist power. BUT he is exceptional in teambattles compared to most bruisers which is strange to seasoned bruiser/tank players because they are used to be strong in skirmish and weaker in 5on5 clashes. No sustain is an issue he has which can be solved by wriggles/philo and his harrass game is pretty strong against melee champs since he can force you to dive into his minions with his decoy. He is a strong solo pusher too because he wrecks waves with his AoE and turrets with his armor debuff (which is pretty huge no?) and at the same time teambattles are not as awkward with him as with most other tanks. Besides the insane aoe damage he provides he can fill different tactical roles depending on the situation. With his strong armor debuff he can help your carry to wreck that tank (LW from his carry+his Q is about 70%?!?) and his his damage and mobility is enough to chase their carry away if he is fine on his farm. I also dont find him boring, he is actually quite unique in his role and power. On September 21 2011 01:26 Southlight wrote: I'm not sure he was designed with it in mind but I found his jump at them until they die mechanic rather fun. Is why I spent so much effort trying to make him work, but he just simply colossally fails at jungle. I from the other posts you made I think you are addressing his weak laneing with this? I find his pokes actually quite strong. preferably Hit->Q->E->W or E->Hit->Q->W if you have to. When your wave is pushing you can often autohit a few times to make his AS buff work before you W. Iam pretty sure you do this though. What is your general approach to him? I feel that he really has to do everything to get wriggles/philo ASAP. I'am very curious about your experience with him and what you can say about matchups etc. I just love this champs kit, dunno mb iam biased... | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On September 21 2011 01:51 mrgerry wrote: Don't really understand if your post is trying to say that wukong is strong or not. Within your own post you give reasons why wukong shouldn't be picked by stating Nasus and you are correct in that statement that if you are going to put a weak laner top you mine as well put one that will be scale really well like Nasus or Jax and not bother with Wukong. And then I say that wukong is a fast pusher and that he is exceptionally stong in 5on5 battles where other bruisers dont shine as much. | ||
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