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[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 79

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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
September 20 2011 12:41 GMT
#1561
You guys should kiss and hug and make a superteam -.-
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Xedat
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany358 Posts
September 20 2011 12:41 GMT
#1562
I didn't know that TL B is so active, are there any Vods of your matches?
Also gtrsrs probably really was drunk so I don't think he wanted to insult you.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 20 2011 12:46 GMT
#1563
Getting drunk and visiting TL to write some posts, serious bussiness -_______-
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Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
September 20 2011 12:56 GMT
#1564
We're not TL B

We're TL Europe :3

Not sure if we have vods, doubt it though. Our streamer's pc is down hes using a backup.
I'm quite sure most of the American's don't know us because the time difference, most of you are at work or so when we are playing go4lol or streaming in general.

There is a topic on it though.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 20 2011 13:16 GMT
#1565
Apparently lvl 20 EUers play exactly the same as ~800 elo in ranked.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
September 20 2011 13:25 GMT
#1566
lol im actually excited to troll some people with blitz and heimer. I love when there are silly champs free.
Sarmis
Profile Joined July 2010
United States58 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 13:29:02
September 20 2011 13:27 GMT
#1567
I'm actually kind of sad that ranked games are back up. Most of the time, I've got a few friends on, and we'd love to play together - but we rarely have exactly five people, and duo queuing sucks even if you happen to have only 2 people.

And blind picking is horrible. You can't avoid stupidly OP champions, you can't do anything with picking matchups, and sometimes you just lose by random team comp with complete untenable matchups - and then you are stuck for at minimum 20 minutes (by far my biggest pet peeve with this game). At least in draft mode you made your own bed. Playing draft pick normals has been the most fun I've had in LoL in ages, and I'm very sad to see it gone.

Edit: I just want to be able to do draft pick games with various numbers between 2-4 and without completely splitting the queues up. I play this game to play with my friends, but blind pick is horrid.
"All that is very well," answered Candide, "but let us cultivate our garden."
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
September 20 2011 13:39 GMT
#1568
taiwan LoL normals highest lvl of play i've seen for pub normals so far

(im waiting for you LoL KR)
cool beans
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
September 20 2011 13:40 GMT
#1569
On September 20 2011 22:25 Orpheos wrote:
lol im actually excited to troll some people with blitz and heimer. I love when there are silly champs free.


I can get "trolling" with Blitz since he has his grab and all so you can do some pretty silly things but Heimer?

It's not really trolling if you just end up wasting your own 20 minutes.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
September 20 2011 13:42 GMT
#1570
Riven will be receiving a hotfix that includes a set of buffs that should round out her gameplay.


Base Stats
Attack Speed per level increased to 3.5 from 2.9
Base Armor increased to 15 from 12
Broken Wings bonus attack damage ratio increased to 0.7 from 0.6.
Ki Shout cast time decreased to 0.25 from 0.5
Valor
Shield increased to 60/90/120/150/180 from 40/70/100/130/160.
Cooldown decreased to 10/9/8/7/6 from 11/10/9/8/7.
Wind Slash
Cast time decreased to 0.25 from 0.5
Missile speed increased by 10% to 2200 from 2000.


Not sure if its enough
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#1571
I thought Riven was pretty viable before this patch, these buffs will make her really good.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 20 2011 13:54 GMT
#1572
So normal draft will be disabled "due to load concerns".

Can someone explain that? I would assume that all the Riot servers can host any type of game. Furthermore, I would assume that the total number of people who play LoL at the same time doesn't increase significantly just because both ranked and normal draft is available.

So what exactly are their concerns? Or are my assumptions wrong?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 20 2011 13:55 GMT
#1573
On September 20 2011 22:42 GranDim wrote:
Show nested quote +
Riven will be receiving a hotfix that includes a set of buffs that should round out her gameplay.


Base Stats
Attack Speed per level increased to 3.5 from 2.9
Base Armor increased to 15 from 12
Broken Wings bonus attack damage ratio increased to 0.7 from 0.6.
Ki Shout cast time decreased to 0.25 from 0.5
Valor
Shield increased to 60/90/120/150/180 from 40/70/100/130/160.
Cooldown decreased to 10/9/8/7/6 from 11/10/9/8/7.
Wind Slash
Cast time decreased to 0.25 from 0.5
Missile speed increased by 10% to 2200 from 2000.


Not sure if its enough

If they just made the Ki Shout time .1 sec cast time she'd already be much better
at this point i'm not sure if all these buffs are really necessary she was already pretty lulzy with a mallet as it is
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#1574
Weeeeee, wind slash cast time reduced. Riven OP!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 14:01:41
September 20 2011 14:01 GMT
#1575
Shit. I went out of my way to build my first rune page for Caitlyn, now they buff Riven amazingly. WHY MUST YOU PLAY WITH ME RIOT.
It's your boy Guzma!
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
September 20 2011 14:01 GMT
#1576
Did they say when the hotfix was going to be applied?
Romanes eunt domus
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 20 2011 14:01 GMT
#1577
On September 20 2011 23:01 BobMcJohnson wrote:
Did they say when the hotfix was going to be applied?


After downtime.
It's your boy Guzma!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
September 20 2011 14:01 GMT
#1578
On September 20 2011 22:42 GranDim wrote:
Show nested quote +
Riven will be receiving a hotfix that includes a set of buffs that should round out her gameplay.


Base Stats
Attack Speed per level increased to 3.5 from 2.9
Base Armor increased to 15 from 12
Broken Wings bonus attack damage ratio increased to 0.7 from 0.6.
Ki Shout cast time decreased to 0.25 from 0.5
Valor
Shield increased to 60/90/120/150/180 from 40/70/100/130/160.
Cooldown decreased to 10/9/8/7/6 from 11/10/9/8/7.
Wind Slash
Cast time decreased to 0.25 from 0.5
Missile speed increased by 10% to 2200 from 2000.


Not sure if its enough

I think it'll be enough. This fixes a lot of her big problems -- W and R cast times and sustain in lane. You should basically get an extra auto from the W change and R should be a lot easier to hit now. Broken Wings buff isn't in the base values so you still don't have to level it if you don't want to, which is nice since most people don't.

Also her jungle deserves another look, I guess. I'm not an experienced jungler so I'm not sure about her potential there. But every single one of these buffs except the changes to R are relevant to her jungling.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
September 20 2011 14:02 GMT
#1579
those changes are great. the attackspeed and armor increase are the most needed on her stats and the improved shield will help alot with her sustain.

the ratio increase on Q is actually huge if you consider you get a bonus for each jump. that means its an increase of 0.3 in total, on a fairly high cooldown that is.

Wind shlash a bit less awkward now is fine, but not huge. just easyer to use now and a bit less situational.
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GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
September 20 2011 14:06 GMT
#1580
On September 20 2011 22:55 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 22:42 GranDim wrote:
Riven will be receiving a hotfix that includes a set of buffs that should round out her gameplay.


Base Stats
Attack Speed per level increased to 3.5 from 2.9
Base Armor increased to 15 from 12
Broken Wings bonus attack damage ratio increased to 0.7 from 0.6.
Ki Shout cast time decreased to 0.25 from 0.5
Valor
Shield increased to 60/90/120/150/180 from 40/70/100/130/160.
Cooldown decreased to 10/9/8/7/6 from 11/10/9/8/7.
Wind Slash
Cast time decreased to 0.25 from 0.5
Missile speed increased by 10% to 2200 from 2000.


Not sure if its enough

If they just made the Ki Shout time .1 sec cast time she'd already be much better
at this point i'm not sure if all these buffs are really necessary she was already pretty lulzy with a mallet as it is


Maybe its just me but I kept running into stuff like udyr solo top which I just couldn't fight no matter how bad they were. I know her late game late is excellent if farmed with great burst and consistent damage but being a fragile bruiser with no sustain means she still lose to a ton of tops.
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