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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 17 2011 18:37 GMT
#1101
And everyone on SK blames it on Failer O_O
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 17 2011 18:39 GMT
#1102
Well to be fair the rate at which he ate dark bindings he carries a lot of the blame.

too heavy team for alex to carry
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
September 17 2011 18:40 GMT
#1103
Gotta hand it to SK for not crumbling under the intense pressure of being down 0-1, being behind late in game 2, then being massively behind in game 3. It takes a lot of fortitude to not only come back from all of that, but surely to have to listen to Ocelote's QQ in vent the entire time...
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
September 17 2011 18:40 GMT
#1104
On September 18 2011 03:37 Abenson wrote:
And everyone on SK blames it on Failer O_O

Wewillfailer getting caught so much let CandyPanda get more gold to catch up to Cait and then getting caught baited his team into bad positions and forcing 4v5s. He also kept losing Oracles. I think he had to buy them 4 or 5 times? That's a massive commitment for a support player and a lot of lost gold too.

I guess that's why Wewillfailer was the former sub for Fnatic and Mellisan was the main support player.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 18:44:07
September 17 2011 18:42 GMT
#1105
On September 18 2011 03:37 Abenson wrote:
And everyone on SK blames it on Failer O_O


He got caught in more dark binding than a 1200 player. It was really pathetic and he was certainly a huge factor in them losing both games.

The team fights for TTT seemed especially bad with them splitting up and getting picked off by nocturne. It all started with that golem steal that they pulled after getting Caitlyn fed up a bit where they got separated and then let SK back into the game with a few kills and a free dragon. I don't think they ever had a good team fight after that...

TTT also makes Trundle look like utter garbage. He fell off hard in game 2 along with ezreal and then in game 3 he just didn't bring that wow factor like nocturne.
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
September 17 2011 18:42 GMT
#1106
On September 18 2011 03:40 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:37 Abenson wrote:
And everyone on SK blames it on Failer O_O

Wewillfailer getting caught so much let CandyPanda get more gold to catch up to Cait and then getting caught baited his team into bad positions and forcing 4v5s. He also kept losing Oracles. I think he had to buy them 4 or 5 times? That's a massive commitment for a support player and a lot of lost gold too.

I guess that's why Wewillfailer was the former sub for Fnatic and Mellisan was the main support player.

wewillfailer played for xPeke on one tourney, was a DH iirc and they lost game/games with him and when xPeke arrived they raped the shit out of everyone. Explains all, imo.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 17 2011 18:49 GMT
#1107
Biggest issue for TTT still by far was their atrocious positioning and places where they engage/got engaged on. So much stacking, morg all too happy flash ult 4 or 5 people.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#1108
trundle is quite good late game, but compared to well protected kog nobody really does well. Didn't see the game but just from reading the thread it seems like they never had a proper fight late. You can mess up morgana pretty bad with pillar, it's great counterinitiation. Actually so is janna, if they were losing to ult stacking anyway it sounds like they messed up their play because those guys should do quite well vs morg sona noct
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
September 17 2011 18:59 GMT
#1109
Which is typically better for ad ranged carries getting 2-3 dorans than going for a good damage item or getting only 1 doran than going Wriggle's first before something like Infinity Edge. I've seen Chaox go Wriggle's first on a number of ranged AD carries and it seems like a good idea to push lanes faster and have better sustain. The ranged AD I play is Tristina and all the benefits from Wriggle's seems better than dorans and saving for a good item.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 19:02:43
September 17 2011 19:01 GMT
#1110
On September 18 2011 03:59 BlackMagister wrote:
Which is typically better for ad ranged carries getting 2-3 dorans than going for a good damage item or getting only 1 doran than going Wriggle's first before something like Infinity Edge. I've seen Chaox go Wriggle's first on a number of ranged AD carries and it seems like a good idea to push lanes faster and have better sustain. The ranged AD I play is Tristina and all the benefits from Wriggle's seems better than dorans and saving for a good item.

Chaox explains it well here:



Also, read Loco's post here.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 17 2011 19:02 GMT
#1111
It's just preference. I do wriggles because I'm a chaox fanboy.
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Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 19:04:44
September 17 2011 19:04 GMT
#1112
On September 18 2011 04:02 HazMat wrote:
It's just preference. I do wriggles because I'm a chaox fanboy.


Hahaha, same, for the exact same reason... and "free" wards.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 19:06:06
September 17 2011 19:04 GMT
#1113
On September 18 2011 04:02 HazMat wrote:
It's just preference. I do wriggles because I'm a chaox fanboy.

Or if you're playing against Cait in lane.

[Insert appropriate word here] Caitlyn and her lane lockdown. It's even worse if they took Ali/Taric as well.

Chaox fanbois unite~

TTT bans Morgana against Sypher. I wonder why lol.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 19:06:02
September 17 2011 19:05 GMT
#1114
Only time I wouldn't get wriggles is if I'm getting fed early and going for a bloodthirster. If I get wriggles I get IE 100% of the time. Even on ezreal :D
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 17 2011 19:06 GMT
#1115
Shushei going cowmode IRL on his stream
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
September 17 2011 19:06 GMT
#1116
DBlade into Wriggles costs you 2075
3x DBlade costs you 1425
Wriggles alone costs you 1600

1x DBlade + Wriggles gives you 33 AD, 30 Armor, 21% Lifesteal, and a the damage on minions passive.
3x DBlade gives 300 hp, 30 AD, 9% lifesteal
Wriggles alone gives 23 AD, 30 Armor, 18% Lifesteal, proc

Wriggles lets you stay in lane because of the armor/life steal, but dblades are more flexible.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 19:08:23
September 17 2011 19:08 GMT
#1117
On September 18 2011 04:05 HazMat wrote:
Only time I wouldn't get wriggles is if I'm getting fed early and going for a bloodthirster. If I get wriggles I get IE 100% of the time. Even on ezreal :D

Hm. I really like BT on Vayne a lot, even if I go Wriggles. The raw AD is just so good with her Q and E. The stacked lifesteal really makes me feel safer because of the short autoattack range. But IE on other champions.
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Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
September 17 2011 19:09 GMT
#1118
On September 18 2011 04:06 Craton wrote:
DBlade into Wriggles costs you 2075
3x DBlade costs you 1425
Wriggles alone costs you 1600

1x DBlade + Wriggles gives you 33 AD, 30 Armor, 21% Lifesteal, and a the damage on minions passive.
3x DBlade gives 300 hp, 30 AD, 9% lifesteal
Wriggles alone gives 23 AD, 30 Armor, 18% Lifesteal, proc

Wriggles lets you stay in lane because of the armor/life steal, but dblades are more flexible.


You forgot to factor in the wards on the cost effectiveness.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
September 17 2011 19:11 GMT
#1119
I didn't list cost effectiveness. I gave stats per cost.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
September 17 2011 19:12 GMT
#1120
Alright thanks for the feedback, I was planning to go wriggles anyways to try it out and because often I'm the only one on my team who buys wards no matter what character I am so wriggles will help when I'm ranged AD.
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